ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

If Ross was prepared to shoot her, he should have shown his gun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

Standing in front of the vehicle to manufacture personal jeopardy is also not lawful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

They weren’t in the course of official business. They should have stayed in their cars and driven around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Because the lesson learned is that ICE may murder you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ross's own video clearly shows her cranking the steering wheel to the right, AWAY from him, BEFORE he shoots. He didn't shoot because he thought she was going to run him over, he shot her because he didn't want her to get away. He was determined to get her, and didn't care if it was dead or alive.

You think he was looking at the wheels of a 4000 lb car after she gunned the engine and he had to make a split second decision involving a car that was arms distance away?

She didn't "gun" the engine, and yes, he certainly should have been looking at either the wheels or the steering wheel. I do that every time I'm in the grocery store parking lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

All the other cars were able to simply drive around.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

Exactly. Look for trouble, you may find it. Avoid putting yourself deliberately in a position of conflict with those whose capacity to impose their will on you exceeds your ability to resist them and live happily ever after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

All the other cars were able to simply drive around.

none of which disobeyed law enforcement instructions. Surprise! They all went on their merry way unharmed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If she just obeyed the lawful command to exit her vehicle.

She obeyed the lawful commands to move her vehicle. You do know the agents were shouting contradictory commands at her right?

+1. You can see the video from the killer officer. Good’s last words were “it’s ok, I’m not mad at you.” His were “f****ing b**ch” after he shot her. We should all be very afraid if this is the caliber of people ICE is putting on our streets next to our kids.

Below are Youtubes taken the same day Renee was murdered by the Gestapo. ICE steps onto school grounds in Minneapolis at dismissal, and proceeds to terrorize the kids leaving school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0fs6Hm8qE

The following video shows a kid half hearted tossing a snowball at the Gestapo. They respond by chasing the boy into a crowd of shocked kids, and sprays all of them with a huge cloud of something. Meanwhile, a teacher is yelling to the kids not to provoke the thugs, saying they just killed a woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwhoLYREvYw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

They weren’t in the course of official business. They should have stayed in their cars and driven around.

She should have moved…

[Anonymous]

I think people are realizing that protesting is often dangerous business. We have forgotten those who died of the cause of Civil Rights. We have forgotten that overthrowing tyranny is rarely free of blood. We have seen it many times since, the blood, the beatings, but they have been in other places to other people. We have forgotten that the seed of our nation was watered with the blood of not yet Americans.

Too many people have bought into this Disneyfied version of humanity and have forgotten that it is always the meeting of human humans and all that they are capable of when each is locked into the “rightness” of their ideas. Renee is a victim of her own blindness, culture, white privilege and good intentions and the ICE agent a victim of the same. All the shoulds and coulds and woulds won’t bring her back to life.

One should consider that this is serious business. This is not Tik Tok or Hollywood. The blood is real. The threat is real. Renees death should make people angry but it should also serve as a reminder that there are few bloodless revolutions and before taking part, one should consider this and conduct and prepare themselves accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves.

And what happens if they don't do what you taught them? Would that make it ok for ICE to kill your kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on.

Interfere with ICE agents during the course of their official business is obstruction of justice. That’s the law. That’s why the command to exit the vehicle was lawful.

They weren’t in the course of official business. They should have stayed in their cars and driven around.

She should have moved…

She did. And they shot her for it.