A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The white men in my family made the smart decision not to waste time and money extending their adolescence by attending college.

Is this K - 16 now? College isn't for everyone.

We need universal basic income for all the women who work low paying jobs at these colleges and universities.

Women need to stop buying into the college multilevel marketing pyramid scheme. Women who dominate HR fields need to stop requiring a ridiculously over-priced college degree for entry level jobs.

We need people who are HVAC workers, welders, plumbers, electricians, home healthcare aides. Competency-based and skill-based training are better than a college degree.

are you a man? Because I don't see any woman who is willing to be the first one to say, "Yep, not gonna get a college degree, and instead will work in trade which usually means a lot of physical work".

[Anonymous]

This reminds me of how my DH (college educated) stated that not everyone needs a degree or cut out to get a degree, and as a society, we need to stop pushing so many people into college because it's making a degree worthless.

I responded, "Ok, will you be telling our kids to not go to college because it's not necessary?"

He paused, and said, "No'.

I don't disagree with him on principle, but I am not going to have my kids be the leader here.

And if you look at the future job growth in areas that pay well, they all require a degree.

[Anonymous]

"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great! (Sarcastically) now there will be even more underpaid, in/underemployed men who feel emasculated and threatened by women and anyone who is non-white. Then they can take their realized fear of falling behind and being powerless and lash out at others and prop up people like Trump who feed their desire to feel strong and in control.

Word. Weak, weak pathetic men. How we are raising white men to expect their privilege and lash out at others when they don’t get it - rather than earn their place- is horrifying.

This will be bad for women. They will chase around the few “Mr bigs” who will have their pick of women. The ones not picked will be out of luck.

Hahahahha. This reminds me of the NASA plan to send all female astronaut crews on long space flights so that nobody would be having sex.

Newflash: Women don't need men for anything.

Why are you posting on this thread? It’s about men. Seems like you are desperate to escape your all female world. I think you are totally dependent on a man and secretly hopes he fails so you can stick the knife in him( if it makes you unhappy life worst). I guess that is winning to you.

Is English your first language? If so, and this incoherent word salad is your idea of an argument, then no wonder you feel lost. That seems to be your natural state.

FWIW, I'm a man, and I work in a male dominated field (IT). Interestingly, almost all of my male colleagues are non-US born, to the point that I've had to have conversations with employers about why I didn't provide information about my visa status. My strong impression is that most US born men don't want to do difficult, sometimes boring technical work.

I posted the above because as a rational person living in the 21st century, I'm aware that lesbians exist -- something you seem ignorant of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-university-fall-higher-education-men-women-enrollment-admissions-back-to-school-11630948233

Men are abandoning higher education in such numbers that they now trail female college students by record levels.

At the close of the 2020-21 academic year, women made up 59.5% of college students, an all-time high, and men 40.5%, according to enrollment data from the National Student Clearinghouse, a nonprofit research group. U.S. colleges and universities had 1.5 million fewer students compared with five years ago, and men accounted for 71% of the decline.

The WSJ reporter Doug Belkin made numerous references to the boys' GPAs and solid grades – but omitted mention of their SAT or AP Exam scores. And we know why. Because the high school grades these boys received were 100% fake. They didn't do a lick of genuine school work, studying, serious reading, or develop any sort of time management from 9th through 12th, so no surprise at age 18 or 19 y/o they are paralyzed in a university setting. Grade inflation is fraud and high schools across America have become crime scenes as teachers unions and fat cat administrators perpetuate this fraud on tens of millions of unsuspecting families. Parents don't even realize they've been conned until the kids, typically the boys, are age 18 or 19 and "give up" and feel "lost".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trades.

+1000

So needed and can be lucrative independent biz.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-university-fall-higher-education-men-women-enrollment-admissions-back-to-school-11630948233

Men are abandoning higher education in such numbers that they now trail female college students by record levels.

At the close of the 2020-21 academic year, women made up 59.5% of college students, an all-time high, and men 40.5%, according to enrollment data from the National Student Clearinghouse, a nonprofit research group. U.S. colleges and universities had 1.5 million fewer students compared with five years ago, and men accounted for 71% of the decline.

The WSJ reporter Doug Belkin made numerous references to the boys' GPAs and solid grades – but omitted mention of their SAT or AP Exam scores. And we know why. Because the high school grades these boys received were 100% fake. They didn't do a lick of genuine school work, studying, serious reading, or develop any sort of time management from 9th through 12th, so no surprise at age 18 or 19 y/o they are paralyzed in a university setting. Grade inflation is fraud and high schools across America have become crime scenes as teachers unions and fat cat administrators perpetuate this fraud on tens of millions of unsuspecting families. Parents don't even realize they've been conned until the kids, typically the boys, are age 18 or 19 and "give up" and feel "lost".

I somewhat agree with this. I don't know the solution, and it is way too late for our kids, who are post- or about to be post-high school, but it is ridiculous how pervasive "top students" are as compared to 30, 50 or 100 years ago. Have you seen those high school tests posted on Facebook, from like 1910? Sheesh, no comparison in terms of base knowledge needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

Maybe your DS is ok but not every other young man is "doing just fine." Google deaths of despair in Appalachia or just look at what's happening right here in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

Maybe your DS is ok but not every other young man is "doing just fine." Google deaths of despair in Appalachia or just look at what's happening right here in DC.

+1 "My kid is fine," therefore there is not problem? There fore everyone else must be doing something wrong? Yikes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

Maybe your DS is ok but not every other young man is "doing just fine." Google deaths of despair in Appalachia or just look at what's happening right here in DC.

College is for wealthy people. Many people do not have the luxury of taking 4 year off with no income. This is DCUM. I bet most posters here think everyone goes to college but only a few colleges/universities are…you know…respectable. Only 42% of the US population over 25 have a attended college. A very small percentage of that go to what DCUM would consider respectable colleges/universities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

Maybe your DS is ok but not every other young man is "doing just fine." Google deaths of despair in Appalachia or just look at what's happening right here in DC.

going to college isn't going to help that. Two completely different issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

Maybe your DS is ok but not every other young man is "doing just fine." Google deaths of despair in Appalachia or just look at what's happening right here in DC.

+1 "My kid is fine," therefore there is not problem? There fore everyone else must be doing something wrong? Yikes.

No, not everyone is doing fine, but it's not like they don't have any opportunities. They just choose not to take them. What happened to personal responsibility?

In any case, 1/3 of working age men aren't in the workforce for various reasons: homeless, working under the table; trading bitcoin; retired early. They made their choices. Yes, it is a choice. You may not like the choices, but you do have choices.

It's a lot easier for white men to get a job than black men, that's for sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"College." What about specific majors? Men are still overrepresented in the hard stuff, girls in the fluff stuff "studies" etc. That's what "college"
has become today. Relax, men do just fine.

+1 seriously. Do they need a cookie and a hug?

-mom of DD and DS who is doing just fine.

Maybe your DS is ok but not every other young man is "doing just fine." Google deaths of despair in Appalachia or just look at what's happening right here in DC.

College is for wealthy people. Many people do not have the luxury of taking 4 year off with no income. This is DCUM. I bet most posters here think everyone goes to college but only a few colleges/universities are…you know…respectable. Only 42% of the US population over 25 have a attended college. A very small percentage of that go to what DCUM would consider respectable colleges/universities.

wow, so all those women in colleges are from wealthy families? I didn't know we had that many wealthy families in the US.

[Anonymous]

I just question what most college degrees are really good for these days. And do those women who attend really make use of their degrees? I mean, seriously what is college attendance an indicator of anyway.?