Naomi Osaka withdraws from French Open

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

I’m sure some professional athletes would perform better if the events weren’t televised. Or if there were no live audience. Should we accommodate them as well?

I mean...we did all of that in 2020 as well. If the NBA or NFL thought they could make more money by only selling virtual tickets with special game-play access you're damned sure they would do it too - regardless of if benefiting or diminishing an athlete's well-being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

+1. Interesting points. Especially re. extroverts struggling during the shut down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's all so fake. Professional victim and race-baiting bull****. My guess is cooked up by her agents and/or Nike because she's such a bore.

+1. I wonder how different the reaction would be if she were white.

Here’s that same guy’s reaction if she were a man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

I’m sure some professional athletes would perform better if the events weren’t televised. Or if there were no live audience. Should we accommodate them as well?

I mean...we did all of that in 2020 as well. If the NBA or NFL thought they could make more money by only selling virtual tickets with special game-play access you're damned sure they would do it too - regardless of if benefiting or diminishing an athlete's well-being.

Absolutely. But we are not going to make new rules just because those athletes who perform better without an audience are disadvantaged by the status quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all so fake. Professional victim and race-baiting bull****. My guess is cooked up by her agents and/or Nike because she's such a bore.

+1. I wonder how different the reaction would be if she were white.

Here’s that same guy’s reaction if she were a man.

What rule were they asking be changed for just them? Genuinely asking. I don't recall their doing anything more than raising the issue as an issue, not as something that should change specifically for them. But I could be wrong.
I'm all for having discussions around mental health and asking for accommodations. I just really don't like the way Osaka went about this.

[Anonymous]

I wrote previously, it is unfair to other athletes and gives her a leg up.
She said herself she wants to game the system. the end.
Make away with the pressers for all, that might make it even.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

+1. Interesting points. Especially re. extroverts struggling during the shut down.

Agreed that they're interesting points. But there's really no "evening the playing field" in competition. It's competition. The only example I can kind of equate what you're saying to might be Casey Martin, the golfer who sued the PGA to be able to use a golf cart. That case went to the Supreme Court and it wasn't so much evening the playing field as it was "he might lose his leg if he steps funny." But that case might actually support what you're saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

+1. Interesting points. Especially re. extroverts struggling during the shut down.

Agreed that they're interesting points. But there's really no "evening the playing field" in competition. It's competition. The only example I can kind of equate what you're saying to might be Casey Martin, the golfer who sued the PGA to be able to use a golf cart. That case went to the Supreme Court and it wasn't so much evening the playing field as it was "he might lose his leg if he steps funny." But that case might actually support what you're saying.

There’s also the South African dude without legs who murdered his girlfriend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all so fake. Professional victim and race-baiting bull****. My guess is cooked up by her agents and/or Nike because she's such a bore.

+1. I wonder how different the reaction would be if she were white.

Here’s that same guy’s reaction if she were a man.

So fing typical. Misogyny rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wrote previously, it is unfair to other athletes and gives her a leg up.
She said herself she wants to game the system. the end.
Make away with the pressers for all, that might make it even.

This is such bs. She's having mental health issues but the haters gotta hate. The pressers after tennis matches are awful and no one finds them interesting. Why not change the rules?

The idea that she is doing this to get a leg up is immature and just outright stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

I mean, I guess I’m sorry she doesn’t enjoy press conferences. I know almost no one who enjoys every aspect of their job. It’s incredibly rare. I’m more concerned about the mental health of people who work hard but still can’t afford proper mental health care. Osaka can afford the best mind doctors money can buy. I’m not worried about her; I genuinely think she is okay and will continue to be okay.

Yeah, the "no one likes everything about their job" line is played out.

I suspect you just don't/never liked Osaka--for whatever reason. And that's fine. Just like I've never cared for Brady and Brees.

Also, speaking of played out, you should understand that your yelling about how much money Osaka has does not make a whole lot of sense. I understand that Robin Williams was worth about $50 million when he died.

I don’t really care whether admitting most people dislike parts of their job is “played out” or not. It doesn’t matter to me, and the reason why is because it’s true: Most people have jobs that cause them anxiety and stress. That’s how it goes being an adult!

I never said rich people can’t or don’t commit suicide. Of course anyone can commit suicide. But I’ll take the odds of the super privileged, rich person who is struggling over the poor one any day of the week. It’s not even a close contest which one is better off. (And Robin Williams was suffering from Lewy body, which is obviously very different. You couldn’t come up with a better example?)

Kate Spade.

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For those who are talking about parts of your job that you dont like none of it is being berated, harassed, or being required/prompted to answer intimate questions about your personal life. Its a non-starter for comparison purposes. Its legally prohibited for your employer to ask about your race, your gender, your pregnancy status, relationship status, disability, etc.

And to the PP who made the point about how the world is set up for extroverts. I 100% agree. Especially in business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wrote previously, it is unfair to other athletes and gives her a leg up.
She said herself she wants to game the system. the end.
Make away with the pressers for all, that might make it even.

This is such bs. She's having mental health issues but the haters gotta hate. The pressers after tennis matches are awful and no one finds them interesting. Why not change the rules?

The idea that she is doing this to get a leg up is immature and just outright stupid.

No, she is not. She only brought that "victim" narrative after her badly managed decision backfired.
She did not want the press to "bring down her confidence." Too bad, too sad, snowflake. They will bring down your and everyone else's or nobody's confidence down.
She acted like a teen who lied and then lied some more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

I mean, I guess I’m sorry she doesn’t enjoy press conferences. I know almost no one who enjoys every aspect of their job. It’s incredibly rare. I’m more concerned about the mental health of people who work hard but still can’t afford proper mental health care. Osaka can afford the best mind doctors money can buy. I’m not worried about her; I genuinely think she is okay and will continue to be okay.

Yeah, the "no one likes everything about their job" line is played out.

I suspect you just don't/never liked Osaka--for whatever reason. And that's fine. Just like I've never cared for Brady and Brees.

Also, speaking of played out, you should understand that your yelling about how much money Osaka has does not make a whole lot of sense. I understand that Robin Williams was worth about $50 million when he died.

I don’t really care whether admitting most people dislike parts of their job is “played out” or not. It doesn’t matter to me, and the reason why is because it’s true: Most people have jobs that cause them anxiety and stress. That’s how it goes being an adult!

I never said rich people can’t or don’t commit suicide. Of course anyone can commit suicide. But I’ll take the odds of the super privileged, rich person who is struggling over the poor one any day of the week. It’s not even a close contest which one is better off. (And Robin Williams was suffering from Lewy body, which is obviously very different. You couldn’t come up with a better example?)

Kate Spade.

Sure. Or Bourdain. Plenty of better and more recent examples for the bad point PP was trying to make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those who are talking about parts of your job that you dont like none of it is being berated, harassed, or being required/prompted to answer intimate questions about your personal life. Its a non-starter for comparison purposes. Its legally prohibited for your employer to ask about your race, your gender, your pregnancy status, relationship status, disability, etc.

And to the PP who made the point about how the world is set up for extroverts. I 100% agree. Especially in business.

You don’t think any of us have been harassed at our jobs? Come on now.