Naomi Osaka withdraws from French Open

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Anonymous wrote:I wish tennis had fans like football, soccer, basketball,baseball, hockey…. Where she would have to deal with fans mocking her and taunting her. The media asks simple questions that she can answer or not and the never have the opportunity to press their questions

Tennis players absolutely get mocked and taunted. This started with fans booing her for beating Serena Williams. A crazy fan of Steffi Graf’s STABBED Monika Seles, FFS.

Exactly. Bunch of folks commenting on this thread haven’t watched tennis since Chris Everette played. Serena/Venus used to gets booed all the time. Things have bee thrown at them from the stands. And they don’t always ask “simple” questions. They asked the Williams sisters about her fathers’ marriage, asked her about her coach’s marriage and asked her if she’s got her eggs on ice.

They asked Victoria Azeranka about her custody dispute. They asked Petra Kivtova about being attacked in her home. Ask about their job (which is Tennis).

Because, like it or not, they're celebrities. Comes with the territory of deciding to be a professional athlete.

Youre demented.

I'll somehow manage to survive a stranger calling me a name.
She was ALSO complaining about them asking about her job, in case you didn't see the post above. She didn't want them getting into her head, making her doubt herself. So they don't like that either. But nice try.

The more you post the stupider you sound.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish tennis had fans like football, soccer, basketball,baseball, hockey…. Where she would have to deal with fans mocking her and taunting her. The media asks simple questions that she can answer or not and the never have the opportunity to press their questions

Tennis players absolutely get mocked and taunted. This started with fans booing her for beating Serena Williams. A crazy fan of Steffi Graf’s STABBED Monika Seles, FFS.

Exactly. Bunch of folks commenting on this thread haven’t watched tennis since Chris Everette played. Serena/Venus used to gets booed all the time. Things have bee thrown at them from the stands. And they don’t always ask “simple” questions. They asked the Williams sisters about her fathers’ marriage, asked her about her coach’s marriage and asked her if she’s got her eggs on ice.

They asked Victoria Azeranka about her custody dispute. They asked Petra Kivtova about being attacked in her home. Ask about their job (which is Tennis).

Because, like it or not, they're celebrities. Comes with the territory of deciding to be a professional athlete.

No, it does not. These unprofessional questions are almost always lobbied at female sports athletes. They don't ask Cristiano Ronaldo who his mysterious surrogate is or if he's really gay. They don't question Tom Brady about abandoning a pregnant girlfriend while walking down the aisle the same year with someone else. Where the questions about Phil Mickelson's wife having an affair?

On top of that places like the French Open have any goes press pass operation. Why the hell is TMZ and US Weekly allowed to question the top professional athletes at the most major matches/games of their lives?

DP. I just can’t imagine feeling this bad for super rich, incredibly privileged people. Do you think Osaka sits around worrying about your plight? The reality is, she wouldn’t trade places with any of us Regular Joes and Janes. Not for one second. It doesn’t really matter to me that she doesn’t enjoy one aspect of the job that has made her rich and famous. Very few of us enjoy everything about our jobs. That’s kinda how life often goes.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell me in which job can you just tell your company that from now on you will not do a certain part of the job?
And there are rules and regulations that come with the job?

When you are the number #2 tennis player in the world and the highest paid female athlete in the world, they will make adjustments. Maybe Naomi didn’t handle this well, but neither did the French Open Leadership. Changes will be made. No major tournament wants this kind of press.

But the tournaments do want ratings. The fewer interviews, the fewer people know the major players or pay attention to the matches. The players won’t be happy with the long-term effects of such a move.

They can do interviews but not on game day.

People are most interested in athletes on game days. That’s when they have eyeballs on them. It’s their play on game days that makes them rich and famous.

This could be directly from a Cheryl Sandberg book. If a part of a job is unfair or emotionally exhausting, you shouldn't have to put up with it for a paycheck. At the very least, you can work with your boss to try and reach some sort of compromise.

Change happens when someone who has power within the system starts to demand it. Facebook didn't have parking spaces for pregnant women reserved close to the office front doors - they had to walk across a giant parking lot. Nobody had brought it up before because they weren't in positions to change it (or they did and weren't listened to). Cheryl realized this was an issue when she was pregnant, brought it up, and they put in the reserved spots. Naomi is raising the issue because she can.

People know the major tennis players through Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and by watching them...play tennis. Nothing interesting ever comes out of the interviews, except for exhausted athletes repeating themselves and answering the same tired questions. It's an old and boring model.

This is terrible professional advice. Just god awful. What kind of occupation is never unfair or emotionally taxing? Almost all challenging jobs involve these elements sometimes. That’s life.

Also, I pay way less attention to tennis than I used to because the players don’t interest me as much as they used to. The less people know about or hear from the players, the less they will pay attention to their matches.

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And people wonder why the term snowflake is used. Give me a break with this crap.

You unintelligent attitude is why a doctor was able to rape gymnasts without question.

Hey it’s part of the game, either do hip rotations through the vagina or get out of the sport.

DP. Do you really think rape is supposed to be part of gymnastics? If you do, I’m sorry to have to tell you that you’re very, very confused.

People like you were told about the procedure through the vagina and they were like okay if it has to be done that way. Doctors, parents, officials… they all knew, cops were actually shown the procedure and they were like okay if the doctor says so.

Now youre like … welp abusive reporters are part of the game suck it up buttercup… just like gymnasts were told.

Just like Princess Diana was told… it’s part of the game being based by reporters.

Why people LIKE YOU are so weak you can’t stand up to authority is beyond me.

Be a lemming but not everybody is.

Now reporters are abusive? Holy cow, you're just sick. You're absolutely disgusting with this analogy, and you know it. The two aren't remotely the same, and to suggest otherwise is grotesque.

You are denying the media is abusive.

Get your head out of the sand.

Good lord, PP. You are ...special. Even Osaka didn't say the media was abusive.
To quote her OWN WORDS:
"Though the tennis press has always been kind to me --and I wanna apologize especially to all the cool journalists who I may have hurt--, I am not a natural public speaker and get huge waves of anxiety before I speak to the world's media. I get really nervous and find it stressful to always try to engage and give you the best answers I can."

But sure, let's equate this to an animal raping young girls by manipulating everyone around them. Truly a great analogy PP. You're a genius.

+1. The PP who compares Osaka’s press to rape and the PP who thinks you should quit your job if it’s ever unfair make me worry for our younger generations.

No not quit the job like they use to tell women that were sexually harassed, just find another job. No. Change the culture.

It’s like a bunch of women who read people magazine and never followed sports are on this thread.

Game day interviews have been controversial for over a decade. Is this really the 1st time hearing this? Do you live under a rock? Do you think Osaka is the 1st to do this? Wow!

Coaches/players have been trying to change this forever.

I'm a massive tennis fan. Watch it all the time. Yes, we know. We know they don't like it. We also know they are ridiculously privileged. We just don't. agree. with. you. or. equate. it. to. rape. or. even. sexual. harassment. You are demeaning those who have experienced both by equating this to anything close to what some of us have endured in the workplace so you can all come here and complain about press briefings of all things.

Broaden your horizons.. watch something other than tennis.

Oh, believe me, I do. No choice in the house I live in.

Just because the tv is on a sport doesn’t mean you actually understand the issues that have been going on for over a decade.

Let me guess. You're about 30...
EVERYONE KNOWS that this has been going on for over a decade. But in case they don't, you've posted it how many times in this thread? Duly noted. WE GET IT. I mean, we already knew it, but just in case you're not quite hearing people, yes, we get it. It's an issue that certain athletes have been complaining about for over a decade. Got it. K?
Still don't agree with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish tennis had fans like football, soccer, basketball,baseball, hockey…. Where she would have to deal with fans mocking her and taunting her. The media asks simple questions that she can answer or not and the never have the opportunity to press their questions

Tennis players absolutely get mocked and taunted. This started with fans booing her for beating Serena Williams. A crazy fan of Steffi Graf’s STABBED Monika Seles, FFS.

Exactly. Bunch of folks commenting on this thread haven’t watched tennis since Chris Everette played. Serena/Venus used to gets booed all the time. Things have bee thrown at them from the stands. And they don’t always ask “simple” questions. They asked the Williams sisters about her fathers’ marriage, asked her about her coach’s marriage and asked her if she’s got her eggs on ice.

They asked Victoria Azeranka about her custody dispute. They asked Petra Kivtova about being attacked in her home. Ask about their job (which is Tennis).

Because, like it or not, they're celebrities. Comes with the territory of deciding to be a professional athlete.

Youre demented.

I'll somehow manage to survive a stranger calling me a name.
She was ALSO complaining about them asking about her job, in case you didn't see the post above. She didn't want them getting into her head, making her doubt herself. So they don't like that either. But nice try.

The more you post the stupider you sound.

She's one of the most endorsed athletes out there. Are you f-ing kidding me with your crap? Taking endorsements = celebrity status by definition. You're using your celebrity to ---- wait for it --- endorse products.
But go ahead, continue acting like she's a victim.

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IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

I mean, I guess I’m sorry she doesn’t enjoy press conferences. I know almost no one who enjoys every aspect of their job. It’s incredibly rare. I’m more concerned about the mental health of people who work hard but still can’t afford proper mental health care. Osaka can afford the best mind doctors money can buy. I’m not worried about her; I genuinely think she is okay and will continue to be okay.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

I mean, I guess I’m sorry she doesn’t enjoy press conferences. I know almost no one who enjoys every aspect of their job. It’s incredibly rare. I’m more concerned about the mental health of people who work hard but still can’t afford proper mental health care. Osaka can afford the best mind doctors money can buy. I’m not worried about her; I genuinely think she is okay and will continue to be okay.

Yeah, the "no one likes everything about their job" line is played out.

I suspect you just don't/never liked Osaka--for whatever reason. And that's fine. Just like I've never cared for Brady and Brees.

Also, speaking of played out, you should understand that your yelling about how much money Osaka has does not make a whole lot of sense. I understand that Robin Williams was worth about $50 million when he died.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

I mean, I guess I’m sorry she doesn’t enjoy press conferences. I know almost no one who enjoys every aspect of their job. It’s incredibly rare. I’m more concerned about the mental health of people who work hard but still can’t afford proper mental health care. Osaka can afford the best mind doctors money can buy. I’m not worried about her; I genuinely think she is okay and will continue to be okay.

Yeah, the "no one likes everything about their job" line is played out.

I suspect you just don't/never liked Osaka--for whatever reason. And that's fine. Just like I've never cared for Brady and Brees.

Also, speaking of played out, you should understand that your yelling about how much money Osaka has does not make a whole lot of sense. I understand that Robin Williams was worth about $50 million when he died.

I don’t really care whether admitting most people dislike parts of their job is “played out” or not. It doesn’t matter to me, and the reason why is because it’s true: Most people have jobs that cause them anxiety and stress. That’s how it goes being an adult!

I never said rich people can’t or don’t commit suicide. Of course anyone can commit suicide. But I’ll take the odds of the super privileged, rich person who is struggling over the poor one any day of the week. It’s not even a close contest which one is better off. (And Robin Williams was suffering from Lewy body, which is obviously very different. You couldn’t come up with a better example?)

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She was simply wrong about wanting to game the system and give herself an advantage. Cause....privilege!

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

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Divas gonna diva.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

If 2020 has taught me anything, is that society is geared towards the comfort and expression of extroverts because that was flipped on its head with Covid. The amount of extroverts among my friends who had full-on breakdowns during the Covid quarantine period was illuminating to watch.

Its not a 'leg up' in my opinion to not require people with social anxiety to attend major press conferences with haranguing reporters. Its actually evening the playing field. A lot of these athletes thrive on interacting with the press and sparring verbally. It boosts their confidence and their energy levels. The same cannot be said for people like Osaka.

I’m sure some professional athletes would perform better if the events weren’t televised. Or if there were no live audience. Should we accommodate them as well?

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this presents an opportunity for us to focus on mental health, instead of pounding our chests and wringing our hands about the rules.

So bend the rules for the incredibly rich, privileged lady to give her a leg up on the competition? I’m gonna vote no on that.

But I’d definitely love to see Osaka leverage some of her immense wealth and power to do more in this space for others. Especially for people who struggle with mental health problems and don’t have as much privilege or as many resources as she does.

Are you able to forget about how many dollars she earns and the rules of the game and just focus on the human being? Are you capable of that?

I mean, I guess I’m sorry she doesn’t enjoy press conferences. I know almost no one who enjoys every aspect of their job. It’s incredibly rare. I’m more concerned about the mental health of people who work hard but still can’t afford proper mental health care. Osaka can afford the best mind doctors money can buy. I’m not worried about her; I genuinely think she is okay and will continue to be okay.

Yeah, the "no one likes everything about their job" line is played out.

I suspect you just don't/never liked Osaka--for whatever reason. And that's fine. Just like I've never cared for Brady and Brees.

Also, speaking of played out, you should understand that your yelling about how much money Osaka has does not make a whole lot of sense. I understand that Robin Williams was worth about $50 million when he died.

I don’t really care whether admitting most people dislike parts of their job is “played out” or not. It doesn’t matter to me, and the reason why is because it’s true: Most people have jobs that cause them anxiety and stress. That’s how it goes being an adult!

I never said rich people can’t or don’t commit suicide. Of course anyone can commit suicide. But I’ll take the odds of the super privileged, rich person who is struggling over the poor one any day of the week. It’s not even a close contest which one is better off. (And Robin Williams was suffering from Lewy body, which is obviously very different. You couldn’t come up with a better example?)

I should have left this discussion with what 21:53 said.