Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

And is “I am rich and educated and therefore should make the rules about what the poor and uneducated should be feeding their families” really better?

Yes, society relies on scientists and those that can to do the right thing. However, not here. Here corruption all the way.
Plus, the rich pp doesn't want them to eat well and get good education. She would have to pay her maid more money then.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Eating “heathy” isn’t expensive. That has been discussed over and over and just isn’t true. But people just don’t care. There are no kids going to school literally starving. The poor kids are all over fed crap and school just piles it on too. You want school to serve a heathy “French style” lunch? It will get tossed in the garbage (but eating the roll of course) and the kid will open a bag of Funyuns when they get home.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

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Anonymous wrote: Why does making sure your child eats heathy fall on the school?

Hmm… because they’re cooking and serving food to our children?

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How can it not fall on the school? Why would anyone think it wouldn't?

Because they don't need to be. Parents can send their children with a lunch. School can keep a few provisions on hand like apples, bananas, white milk. Other than that, schools shouldn't need to provide you kid with breakfast and lunch. Come on.

In fact, if schools STOPPED providing meals, we would all be a lot heartier. No lunch, no breakfast, no pizza, candy, cupcakes, etc..that schools are constantly dishing out. Just the few above things for the kids that forgot to bring a lunch or can't bring one. Better to have an apple and some whole milk than the turkey gravy slop

You are aware that there are millions of children whose only source of food is school, right? That’s why during the pandemic schools continued to provide breakfast and lunch in many places.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's their fault! Not the company, government, lazies that buy cell phones but have no money for food!
Typical dcum! Let them eat cake! They, they, they, they...
You are too stupid, you are THEY too!

It’s also funny how they think 50% of sick population is not going to be their problem.

You live in your bubble shopping to Whole Foods and farmer’s market, buying blueberries for $5 a box, finding extra 30 minutes of time in the morning to cook school lunch, go to the gym to exercise and have no idea how regular 90% of people live and you think everyone should be making a the same choices. That’s laughable. We need to provide good options to people to make good choices, not expect them to make good choices against all odds.

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Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown.

Riiight. That’s what you are led to believe.

I wonder then why T1 diabetes rates have been steadily rising at the same time with T2 diabetes? Maybe, and I’m just throwing it out there, maybe diseases of endocrine system as well as other diseases do have something to do with what you eat.

Even if food is causing T1 diabetes in some way, it is certainly absolutely different from the mechanisms that cause T2.

DP. You're defensively saying that 1 is autoimmune and that T2 is caused by bad diet. That's wrong. They're both genetic and they're both treated similarly. There's no division on the diabetes boards. There shouldn't be here either.

This is the most ignorant and ridiculous thing I heard. Especially since it is soooo easy to verify and disprove. Please educate yourself.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/differences-between-type-1-and-type-2-diabetes

T1 is autoimmune, rarely genetic and is not affected by lifestyle. T2 is largely genetic but also due to a lifestyle choices.

But if you think 'this is what I was led to believe'... No one will persuade you, you are just a science denier.

Yes, T1 is genetic, as is T2. And while T1 is not triggered by lifestyle, both are treated by lifestyle changes.

If your DC is diabetic, please spend time on the various diabetes boards. Over time, you'll learn a lot.

No, no and no. What you are writing is all utter BS, lol ))))
You are the one who has to learn some very basic things. Oh, and preferably not through boards, there may be people just as ignorant as you.
Are you also an anti vaxer incidentally? Into wild conspiracy theories much? Ugh, bye.

Autoimmune diseases run in families.

How does that happen, if not by genetics?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

Dude, if you think asking people to take care of themselves is being an a-hole then you operate in a different reality. Life is hard and no one will take care of you. IF you sit around and wait for government coddling, you'll be SOL. I take care of my family and expect people to do the same for theirs. This is how we solve obesity. Not by saying that "big is beautiful" or assuming that people cannot take care of themselves. It is not. It is heart disease, diabetes, increased rates of cancer, and watching people die young. After watching family die young, I will always reject that notion.

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Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

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Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

I've worked at jobs with good cafeterias. Sorry that you haven't.

Was it free?

DP but yes, our cafeteria is free and I get fresh healthy meals there (when it’s not a pandemic, that is)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

+10000

Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

And if not, f*ck off and die, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I made bad choices. When I moved here I didn’t know that the food could be “bad”. In my country you gained weight if you ate too many sweets. I didn’t know that restaurant food could be processed junk filled with chemicals. They didn’t put chemicals in food in my country. I didn’t know food in USA was a minefield and you have to watch every step.

My friend’s daughter, 11, almost died last summer from undiagnosed diabetes. No one even considered it, the girl is thin as a model and ate a normal American kid diet.

Most of pre diabetics don’t even know they have it unless you check for it specifically.

You wrote almost the same story in the previous thread. So you still don't even know the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes despite me trying to educate you a little?! Wow.

Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown. Unlike T1, T2 is not reversible. Please don't ever bring up your daughter's Type 1 diabetes into any similar discussion.

Signed,

Mom of T2 child.

Gosh, I messed up, another correction - should have been 'Unlike T2, T1 is not reversible.'

I just hate that when some people hear a child had T1, they think parents fed her/him too many sweets. Those two types of diabetes should have been named completely different. Because they are fundamentally different.

Since you keep confusing the two, maybe go a little easy on OP then, eh?

I corrected myself immediately, it's easy to type wrong digits. A typo doesn't mean I am confusing T1 with T2. I mean, I wish I was as ignorant about diabetes as some others (bitter irony).

But whatever. I posted a link to a reputable source, and frankly any reputable source confirms what I wrote about two types of diabetes. If some people want to believe some bs, that's not my problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

+10000

Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

I've worked at jobs with good cafeterias. Sorry that you haven't.

Was it free?

DP but yes, our cafeteria is free and I get fresh healthy meals there (when it’s not a pandemic, that is)

That is a company perk, not a government expense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's their fault! Not the company, government, lazies that buy cell phones but have no money for food!
Typical dcum! Let them eat cake! They, they, they, they...
You are too stupid, you are THEY too!

It’s also funny how they think 50% of sick population is not going to be their problem.

You live in your bubble shopping to Whole Foods and farmer’s market, buying blueberries for $5 a box, finding extra 30 minutes of time in the morning to cook school lunch, go to the gym to exercise and have no idea how regular 90% of people live and you think everyone should be making a the same choices. That’s laughable. We need to provide good options to people to make good choices, not expect them to make good choices against all odds.

Please stop with your idiotic exaggeration and generalization. You can't just make up exaggerated statistics to support your hysterical generalisations, and you are making yourself look unintelligent and ill-informed by doing so.

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You do realize that even if your soldier through and make every meal at home for your kids, they will still be exposed to crappy food at parties, when they go see their friends, when they go out to eat, when they go to college? Even if they manage to grow up healthy they will be a drop in a bucket of sickly, fat generation and will have to deal with consequences as a society.

You seriously think you can live in a bubble and it won’t impact you?

This. Is. What. It. Is. Like. In. Every. Wealthy. Industrialised. Country.

I know because I've lived in five of them. We need to focus on educating people about food, exercise, and personal choices, not on trying to get governments to regulate food choices, because that isn't going to happen.

I invested time, energy, and money in that kind of education and kept getting yelled at for undermining parental choice.

What does this gibberish even mean? Try again. Use clear, simple language.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

+10000

Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

I've worked at jobs with good cafeterias. Sorry that you haven't.

Was it free?

DP but yes, our cafeteria is free and I get fresh healthy meals there (when it’s not a pandemic, that is)

That is a company perk, not a government expense

PP here, and the food at the cafeteria wasn't free. Nor are school lunches (although they might be going forward). I don't think my kids' school food is terrible but it could be better. And we'd pay more for it.

[Anonymous]

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

Dude, if you think asking people to take care of themselves is being an a-hole then you operate in a different reality. Life is hard and no one will take care of you. IF you sit around and wait for government coddling, you'll be SOL. I take care of my family and expect people to do the same for theirs. This is how we solve obesity. Not by saying that "big is beautiful" or assuming that people cannot take care of themselves. It is not. It is heart disease, diabetes, increased rates of cancer, and watching people die young. After watching family die young, I will always reject that notion.

You are so indoctrinated in some "you are responsible, the pioneer spirit, the individualism" that you never stopped to think about it. This country was not built on individualism, that is a myth.
It is so sad that instead of realizing that we elect officials that we expect to take care of us! bcs we elect them to do what is right? no? members of your family might not have died! This is how we solve poverty and obesity. By educating people. When you elect officials and they do what is right for big pharma and agro-industry, you elected someone that is working against your well-being!
Some democracy, right? But, if that person did the job YOU elected them to do, they would improve education, with better education will come better nutrition, with health and education which so many are denied, not don't want it, they are denied it, they will demand accountability from conglomerates, and demand their government regulates the food industry.
Instead, you are just as stupid as those that you claim are obese and don't want to take care of themselves! Think about the deception you are a willing participant in! You are in favor of the system that kills your family members!
Now, if that is not the height of stupidity, I don't know what is!