What are the top 10 universities in the USA?
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Anonymous
Much lower yield rate..Columbia is stil nowhere near HYPSM |
Anonymous
Columbia is bunch of HYPSM, Wharton and Chicago rejects |
Anonymous
University of Puerto Rico yield rate is 78.34% So what? |
Anonymous
Princeton is a bunch of Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and MIT rejects |
Anonymous
Thank you. Every week someone posts a stupid thread like this and everyone goes nuts. Low IQ crowd. |
Anonymous
85% choose Yale, as did your son. |
Anonymous
Funny, Ivy originally came from IV - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia. |
Anonymous
Look, I’m a DP and a fan of Columbia, but this is an urban legend that is mostly only touted by Columbia alums. |
Anonymous
Doesn't change the fact that Columbia students are mostly HYPSM Wharton rejects |
Anonymous
Pathetically insecure... |
Anonymous
This is probably true, but still most Columbia students did not get into Princeton |
Anonymous
Which means we are idiots to pay the tuition and fees we do to support the university research industrial complex. |
Anonymous
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This thread makes me laugh. No one on this thread would get into any of the top 10 if they applied now and that includes the people who went to these schools oh so long ago....
This was one of the talks given at DH’s alumni reunion at a top 10. I feel sorry for the kids now. So cutthroat and gets even worse every year. |
Anonymous
When this thread was considering all programs within a university and its actual merit, it was heading in the right direction. But unfortunately, the thread afterwards became another typical USNWR and prestige-obsessed thread. Can we stop talking about acceptance rates, yield rates, and things that only pertain to the undergraduate schools of these universities? If you think that the undergraduate program is the sole component to what makes a university good, then you are either just delusional, or too uneducated to understand the difference in terminology between what a university or a college is. Undergraduate prestige is the most subjective and arbitrary part of a university's reputation. Admitted students definitely consider location, fit, and actual quality of education, but they ultimately choose based on prestige. If this was not the case, then Williams, Amherst, Pomona, etc. would be more popular than the relatively mediocre Harvard undergrad. But it's not, and perhaps unfortunately. It means that the most talented and achieving students do not consider the actual merit of these schools, but rather its social prestige. The acronym "HYP" is a prime example of how arbitrary social prestige is: its a century-old designation for the rich, aristocratic WASP families who were displeased with other colleges that were increasingly filled with hard-working immigrants. Think of it as this: if the large influx of Asian immigrants today all went to Yale (let's say Yale didn't consider race as an admissions factor), and the social norm of the WASP establishment was like a century ago, then Yale would lose all its prestige. That's how arbitrary the acronym of HYP is, and more broadly the Ivy League. Doesn't social prestige of your Alma Mater provide any practical benefits to your career? That's absolutely true. A Harvard grad would probably find more opportunities than a Williams grad, even though the Williams student would have probably had a better undergraduate education. Due to this reality, the most accomplished students all seek these socially prestigious colleges, creating a perpetual cycle of these individuals boosting the reputation of Harvard even more, even though Harvard's quality of education may not be the best. This is something that must be fixed socially, and not encouraged by DCUM posters who ignorantly assume that a lesser desirable school is automatically inferior (though we should all question the social impact that a DCUM thread has...) People on these threads saying things like Amherst is full of ivy-rejects, is what makes high-achieving students shallow and obsessed with the prestige of the school. If these college threads would rate schools based on their actual merit such as research productivity, then it would naturally lead to not only students considering more of the actual quality of the schools they were admitted to, as well as social prestige being replaced with a foundation of meritocracy rather than ancient racist ideas. The prestige of a school would then be based on its merit, and the best students would go to the best schools, not an inferior yet more prestigious school. If you want to argue that school x is better than y, please provide information on its departmental rankings, research productivity, peer reputation, or anything that accurately reflects the merits of the university. |
Anonymous
Please check the facts before you post. Ignorance is the most pathetic thing on this thread; it wins by a hair over those insecure posters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Football_Association "On November 23, 1876, representatives from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia met at the Massasoit House hotel in Springfield, Massachusetts to standardize a new code of rules based on the rugby game." So yes, even though the term "Ivy" did not come from "IV," these four schools were the first precursor to the Ivy League. |