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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard Stanford MIT
Yale Princeton Columbia
Penn Chicago Caltech
Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Berkeley 
Cornell Johns Hopkins[/quote][/quote]

Best list so far.[/quote]

Not sure Stanford is above Yale, Princeton, Columbia. I know multiple kids who were rejected by Yale, Princeton, Columbia but admitted to Stanford. [/quote]

Stanford is probably in a similar tier with Yale and Princeton, but these days perception is that Harvard and Stanford are best of best.  There is a drop between HYPSM and Columbia[/quote]

So what exactly is this gap between HYPSM and Columbia?[/quote]

Endowment and caliber of students[/quote]

Endowment yes, caliber of students I highly doubt[/quote]
Columbia students are usually Ivy plus rejects. So there is nothing to doubt about the caliber of students.[/quote]

+1. Columbia students are usually Ivy plus rejects, and Ivy plus rejects (which you say is only HYPSM) are usually Columbia rejects; in this day and age it is far more uncommon to get into multiple ivies than one. It's foolish to draw a line between HYPSM and other schools in this instance; you can just say that Yale is full of Harvard rejects, Princeton is full of Yale rejects, Penn is full of Columbia rejects, etc...

In terms of student selectivity and caliber, there are no tiers, but just a gradient. You can't draw a line. With so many diversity, donor, and legacy admits, there's no meaningful difference in the student body between any of these schools mentioned in the thread. [/quote]

Columbia is bunch of HYPSM, Wharton and Chicago rejects[/quote]

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