What are the top 10 universities in the USA?
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Anonymous
Columbia students are usually Ivy plus rejects. So there is nothing to doubt about the caliber of students. |
Anonymous
By Ivy plus, I mean HYPSM. |
Anonymous
If you say so.. |
Anonymous
Columbia’s acceptance rate this year was 4% this year. No different from Princeton, Yale or Stanford. You guys are living in the past. My son is at Yale but almost chose Columbia. He did not consider it any less prestigious |
Anonymous
I would be more impressed with Columbia if 1/3 of the undergraduates were actually matriculated as 18 year old freshmen. |
Anonymous
Again, you are looking at 18 year olds as the metric for ranking universities overall. Universities do not exist solely to educate 18 - 22 year olds. In fact, most professors view them as nuisances. Universities exist for research. |
Anonymous
Columbia has one of the lowest admit rates, and is highly sought after by wealthy international students due to its NYC location, far more so than Princeton and Yale. |
Anonymous
+1. Columbia students are usually Ivy plus rejects, and Ivy plus rejects (which you say is only HYPSM) are usually Columbia rejects; in this day and age it is far more uncommon to get into multiple ivies than one. It's foolish to draw a line between HYPSM and other schools in this instance; you can just say that Yale is full of Harvard rejects, Princeton is full of Yale rejects, Penn is full of Columbia rejects, etc... In terms of student selectivity and caliber, there are no tiers, but just a gradient. You can't draw a line. With so many diversity, donor, and legacy admits, there's no meaningful difference in the student body between any of these schools mentioned in the thread. |
Anonymous
My neighbor’s kid is at Columbia and seems very happy. Applied ED a couple years ago. He is a very independent kid and was attracted to NYC. Refused to apply to Princeton or Stanford as he found their campuses too suburban. Cornell and Dartmouth were too rural. Brown too quirky and artsy and did not like the campus. Harvard seemed impossible to get into not being legacy or any other hook. Just informing you of his thought process. Another friend’s kid hated the thought of NYC and applied ED to Brown. The Ivys are not all the same. They attract different types of kids and yes, some are slightly easier to get into. Mostly I see people using their legacy advantage to gain a slight edge. The admissions process is just insane these days. |
Anonymous
| Any school with a 10 % acceptance rate or below seems amazing to me. The minute differences don’t matter that much. As a hiring manager, all of these schools land in the same pile. Interview and other resume details become more important to set candidates apart. I don’t really care if you went to MIT or Princeton or Duke or Dartmouth. You definitely are smart enough and know how to work hard. Are you a nice person, are your goals aligned with our company, are you a team player - these are the things that will get you the job. We also interview at a number of 10-30 schools |
Anonymous
50+ crowd chiming in here. I agree with this tier list. |
Anonymous
| The top 10 universities only enroll around 0.5% of the high school graduates, and we are trying to divide them into 5 tiers with big gaps between the tiers. LOL |
Anonymous
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Undergraduate:
Harvard Stanford MIT Yale Princeton Columbia Caltech Penn Chicago Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Cornell JHU Overall: Harvard Stanford MIT Columbia Yale Princeton Penn Chicago Berkeley Northwestern Duke |
Anonymous
For one, Columbia uses ED while HYPSM only have EA. |
Anonymous
If judged by that criteria alone, then MIT is #1. Only they (and CalTech) have the balls in offering a non-restrictive early action. HYPS otoh are restrictive/single-choice early action. |