Female physical attributes for positions

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Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.

There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.

If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.

Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1

+1000

The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.

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Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.

I agree...."But".

As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.

Thread title is “physical attributes”.

Yeah. Well. We have progressed

.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.

Not many tall fast players. Lmfao

Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time

That's not how speed works champ.

Actually, it is. https://www.livescience.com/7819-taller-athletes-faster-study-finds.html

Actually it isn't. Just because you have a longer stride doesn't make you faster.

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Tall doesn't make you fast.

Say it 100 times over for suggesting such a thing. Thats your discipline for today.

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UNC women’s soccer has 16 players 5’5” or shorter.
7 are 5’5”
5 are 5’4”
3 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

16 kids are over 5’5”.
2 are 5’6”
4 are 5’7”
1 is 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
5 are 5’10”
1 is 5’11”

So the reality is, taller players are certainly over represented based on their normal population distribution but in general, even UNC falls victim to the realities of actual population size distribution. And every player around 5’10” are almost exclusively forwards or defenders.

So it is still more accurate to frame the discussion of attributes within positional context. So, if your DD has aspirations of playing forward or defender in the ACC she would greatly improve her chances by being 5’9” or 5’10”.

If your DD wants to play in the ACC she should still simply focus on being good at soccer first and foremost

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Anonymous wrote:UNC women’s soccer has 16 players 5’5” or shorter.
7 are 5’5”
5 are 5’4”
3 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

16 kids are over 5’5”.
2 are 5’6”
4 are 5’7”
1 is 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
5 are 5’10”
1 is 5’11”

So the reality is, taller players are certainly over represented based on their normal population distribution but in general, even UNC falls victim to the realities of actual population size distribution. And every player around 5’10” are almost exclusively forwards or defenders.

So it is still more accurate to frame the discussion of attributes within positional context. So, if your DD has aspirations of playing forward or defender in the ACC she would greatly improve her chances by being 5’9” or 5’10”.

If your DD wants to play in the ACC she should still simply focus on being good at soccer first and foremost

Very interesting information. Which group has more starters?

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Anonymous wrote:UNC women’s soccer has 16 players 5’5” or shorter.
7 are 5’5”
5 are 5’4”
3 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

16 kids are over 5’5”.
2 are 5’6”
4 are 5’7”
1 is 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
5 are 5’10”
1 is 5’11”

So the reality is, taller players are certainly over represented based on their normal population distribution but in general, even UNC falls victim to the realities of actual population size distribution. And every player around 5’10” are almost exclusively forwards or defenders.

So it is still more accurate to frame the discussion of attributes within positional context. So, if your DD has aspirations of playing forward or defender in the ACC she would greatly improve her chances by being 5’9” or 5’10”.

If your DD wants to play in the ACC she should still simply focus on being good at soccer first and foremost

Very interesting information. Which group has more starters?

Umm, the taller kids are generally locked into 2 position groups and the average kids are locked into the midfield position group so all of them in a relative sense to their position and depth?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:UNC women’s soccer has 16 players 5’5” or shorter.
7 are 5’5”
5 are 5’4”
3 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

16 kids are over 5’5”.
2 are 5’6”
4 are 5’7”
1 is 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
5 are 5’10”
1 is 5’11”

So the reality is, taller players are certainly over represented based on their normal population distribution but in general, even UNC falls victim to the realities of actual population size distribution. And every player around 5’10” are almost exclusively forwards or defenders.

So it is still more accurate to frame the discussion of attributes within positional context. So, if your DD has aspirations of playing forward or defender in the ACC she would greatly improve her chances by being 5’9” or 5’10”.

If your DD wants to play in the ACC she should still simply focus on being good at soccer first and foremost

Very interesting information. Which group has more starters?

Umm, the taller kids are generally locked into 2 position groups and the average kids are locked into the midfield position group so all of them in a relative sense to their position and depth?

No...it means the UNC coach like tall forwards. It doesn't mean all ACC schools have tall forwards....they may....but does not necessarily mean.

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Anonymous wrote:UNC women’s soccer has 16 players 5’5” or shorter.
7 are 5’5”
5 are 5’4”
3 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

16 kids are over 5’5”.
2 are 5’6”
4 are 5’7”
1 is 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
5 are 5’10”
1 is 5’11”

So the reality is, taller players are certainly over represented based on their normal population distribution but in general, even UNC falls victim to the realities of actual population size distribution. And every player around 5’10” are almost exclusively forwards or defenders.

So it is still more accurate to frame the discussion of attributes within positional context. So, if your DD has aspirations of playing forward or defender in the ACC she would greatly improve her chances by being 5’9” or 5’10”.

If your DD wants to play in the ACC she should still simply focus on being good at soccer first and foremost

Very interesting information. Which group has more starters?

Umm, the taller kids are generally locked into 2 position groups and the average kids are locked into the midfield position group so all of them in a relative sense to their position and depth?

No...it means the UNC coach like tall forwards. It doesn't mean all ACC schools have tall forwards....they may....but does not necessarily mean.

You are free to go through the ACC rosters but I’m pretty certain most forwards and defenders are in the 5’9” range.

There will certainly be some 5’6” in there but most will be closer to 5’9”.

As the ability to find both talented and taller kids get harder to find Mid major programs as well as D2 and D3 will gradually get smaller and smaller at those positions.

Since 5’4” is pretty typical those players are easy to find. 5’9”? Not so much, especially considering competing sports like basketball, volleyball, track etc.

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VCU
18 players are 5’5” or less.

7 are 5’5”
4 are 5’4”
6 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

11players are 5’6” or greater

2 are 5’6”
3 are 5’7”
2 are 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
1 is 5’10”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UNC women’s soccer has 16 players 5’5” or shorter.
7 are 5’5”
5 are 5’4”
3 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

16 kids are over 5’5”.
2 are 5’6”
4 are 5’7”
1 is 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
5 are 5’10”
1 is 5’11”

So the reality is, taller players are certainly over represented based on their normal population distribution but in general, even UNC falls victim to the realities of actual population size distribution. And every player around 5’10” are almost exclusively forwards or defenders.

So it is still more accurate to frame the discussion of attributes within positional context. So, if your DD has aspirations of playing forward or defender in the ACC she would greatly improve her chances by being 5’9” or 5’10”.

If your DD wants to play in the ACC she should still simply focus on being good at soccer first and foremost

Very interesting information. Which group has more starters?

Umm, the taller kids are generally locked into 2 position groups and the average kids are locked into the midfield position group so all of them in a relative sense to their position and depth?

No...it means the UNC coach like tall forwards. It doesn't mean all ACC schools have tall forwards....they may....but does not necessarily mean.

You are free to go through the ACC rosters but I’m pretty certain most forwards and defenders are in the 5’9” range.

There will certainly be some 5’6” in there but most will be closer to 5’9”.

As the ability to find both talented and taller kids get harder to find Mid major programs as well as D2 and D3 will gradually get smaller and smaller at those positions.

Since 5’4” is pretty typical those players are easy to find. 5’9”? Not so much, especially considering competing sports like basketball, volleyball, track etc.

Yeah. UNC gets the pick of the litter. You are fooling yourself if you think there is a large segment of kids running around with all the tangibles to compete for a starting UNC spots. The man doesn't even really recruit. He just snatches them from the YNT rosters. A tall, fast, skilled, high iq forward is hard to find....and UNC and Stanford get them first

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VCU
18 players are 5’5” or less.

7 are 5’5”
4 are 5’4”
6 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

11players are 5’6” or greater

2 are 5’6”
3 are 5’7”
2 are 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
1 is 5’10”

Not to throw this off, but what is the average roster size? 30? Seems huge...can't be a lot of money being spread out...which brings me to another point......

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The USMNT sucks in part because US training programs, in high school and college, focus on size and athleticism over technical skill. The best Americans learned abroad, like Pulisic and Giuseppe Rossi.

So yes. American college coaches like height. And that’s why Americans field bad soccer teams.

In Europe the Premier league has historically been the most physical and least technical (note that England’s national team has been long focused on physicality and headers and hasn’t done well.)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VCU
18 players are 5’5” or less.

7 are 5’5”
4 are 5’4”
6 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

11players are 5’6” or greater

2 are 5’6”
3 are 5’7”
2 are 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
1 is 5’10”

Not to throw this off, but what is the average roster size? 30? Seems huge...can't be a lot of money being spread out...which brings me to another point......

Average roster size is 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:VCU
18 players are 5’5” or less.

7 are 5’5”
4 are 5’4”
6 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

11players are 5’6” or greater

2 are 5’6”
3 are 5’7”
2 are 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
1 is 5’10”

Not to throw this off, but what is the average roster size? 30? Seems huge...can't be a lot of money being spread out...which brings me to another point......

Average roster size is 30.

So a lot of quarter scholarship and non-athletic money kids. I rather my kid go lower and get a full ride and play. Sometimes picking a program that is the best isnt always the best.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VCU
18 players are 5’5” or less.

7 are 5’5”
4 are 5’4”
6 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

11players are 5’6” or greater

2 are 5’6”
3 are 5’7”
2 are 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
1 is 5’10”

Not to throw this off, but what is the average roster size? 30? Seems huge...can't be a lot of money being spread out...which brings me to another point......

Average roster size is 30.

So a lot of quarter scholarship and non-athletic money kids. I rather my kid go lower and get a full ride and play. Sometimes picking a program that is the best isnt always the best.

Well money is the best sign of how much they want you. It is easy to want to play on the best but it is entirely different for the best to want you.

But, the bottom line is for all the bluster about size being a determining factor it just isn’t that simple. 90th percentile kids are certainly over represented in D1 based on actual population numbers but there are lots of spots for “average” sized kids. You can’t control how tall you’ll be but you can control how good a soccer player, athlete and student you can be.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VCU
18 players are 5’5” or less.

7 are 5’5”
4 are 5’4”
6 are 5’3”
1 is 5’2”

11players are 5’6” or greater

2 are 5’6”
3 are 5’7”
2 are 5’8”
3 are 5’9”
1 is 5’10”

Not to throw this off, but what is the average roster size? 30? Seems huge...can't be a lot of money being spread out...which brings me to another point......

Average roster size is 30.

So a lot of quarter scholarship and non-athletic money kids. I rather my kid go lower and get a full ride and play. Sometimes picking a program that is the best isnt always the best.

Well money is the best sign of how much they want you. It is easy to want to play on the best but it is entirely different for the best to want you.

But, the bottom line is for all the bluster about size being a determining factor it just isn’t that simple. 90th percentile kids are certainly over represented in D1 based on actual population numbers but there are lots of spots for “average” sized kids. You can’t control how tall you’ll be but you can control how good a soccer player, athlete and student you can be.

Correct. And this is not true for basketball or volleyball where height really does matter a lot. (Yes, a tiny number of liberos/ DSs / point guards get recruited, but height still matters way more in basketball and volleyball than in soccer.)