Female physical attributes for positions

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Also: poster at 17:12 gets it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.

There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.

If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.

Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1

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The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.

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Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.

I agree...."But".

As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.

Thread title is “physical attributes”.

Yeah. Well. We have progressed

.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.

Not many tall fast players. Lmfao

Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time

That's not how speed works champ.

Actually, it is. https://www.livescience.com/7819-taller-athletes-faster-study-finds.html

Actually it isn't. Just because you have a longer stride doesn't make you faster.

Yeah, we’ll take your unsupported opinion over an actual study. Sure.

In soccer longer strides means fewer touches on the ball. Fewer touches on the ball mean fewer decisions and opportunities with the ball which makes for a much less dynamic player. This type of player is great North-South in getting up and down the field but they aren’t very good laterally with the ball or in tight space.

Nonsense. Go tell that to Alex Morgan.

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Take a look at 1:21 mark. Look at that GIANT touch cutting back. She almost lost the ball because it was so big. A player like Lavell or Messi would have had no less than two options, one of which was to split the defenders and go direct to goal versus taking a giant end around. She is simply not capable at speed to split defenders in that type of limited space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdsImZ5MVHk

Alex Morgan is way faster than Lavell. That’s why Morgan is the striker. Messi is not fast either. Plenty of taller faster strikers. That’s why they those two shorter players as good as they are, are not strikers. They don’t have the speed. Because they are short. That’s also why strikers are almost always tall. For the speed.

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Lavell and Messi also don’t have the physicality and strength to play striker. The big tall CBs would knock them off the ball.

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Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.

There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.

If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.

Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1

+1000

The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.

1,000,000,0000

Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.

I agree...."But".

As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.

Thread title is “physical attributes”.

Yeah. Well. We have progressed

.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.

Not many tall fast players. Lmfao

Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time

That's not how speed works champ.

Actually, it is. https://www.livescience.com/7819-taller-athletes-faster-study-finds.html

Actually it isn't. Just because you have a longer stride doesn't make you faster.

Yeah, we’ll take your unsupported opinion over an actual study. Sure.

In soccer longer strides means fewer touches on the ball. Fewer touches on the ball mean fewer decisions and opportunities with the ball which makes for a much less dynamic player. This type of player is great North-South in getting up and down the field but they aren’t very good laterally with the ball or in tight space.

Nonsense. Go tell that to Alex Morgan.

Nonesenes

Take a look at 1:21 mark. Look at that GIANT touch cutting back. She almost lost the ball because it was so big. A player like Lavell or Messi would have had no less than two options, one of which was to split the defenders and go direct to goal versus taking a giant end around. She is simply not capable at speed to split defenders in that type of limited space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdsImZ5MVHk

Alex Morgan is way faster than Lavell. That’s why Morgan is the striker. Messi is not fast either. Plenty of taller faster strikers. That’s why they those two shorter players as good as they are, are not strikers. They don’t have the speed. Because they are short. That’s also why strikers are almost always tall. For the speed.

Lewandowski is not very fast but is too 3 striker in the world

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Anonymous wrote:Lavell and Messi also don’t have the physicality and strength to play striker. The big tall CBs would knock them off the ball.

You're trolling. I hope so atleast

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Anonymous wrote:Lavell and Messi also don’t have the physicality and strength to play striker. The big tall CBs would knock them off the ball.

You're trolling. I hope so atleast

Has to be

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I didn’t think a few inches seems that much but M Pugh and R Lavelle (5’4”) seems much smaller than A Morgan and J Ertz (5’7”) on the field.

Maybe it’s their playing style, their bulk or both.

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Anonymous wrote:Lavell and Messi also don’t have the physicality and strength to play striker. The big tall CBs would knock them off the ball.

Ok, and they don't play striker and yet they are still dominant players. Different positions require different skill sets that can be reinforced with physical attributes.

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Best female forwards of all times #1Marta, #2 Mia Hamm. They are not big.

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Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.

There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.

If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.

Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1

+1000

The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.

1,000,000,0000

Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.

I agree...."But".

As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.

Thread title is “physical attributes”.

Yeah. Well. We have progressed

.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.

Not many tall fast players. Lmfao

Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time

That's not how speed works champ.

Actually, it is. https://www.livescience.com/7819-taller-athletes-faster-study-finds.html

Actually it isn't. Just because you have a longer stride doesn't make you faster.

Yeah, we’ll take your unsupported opinion over an actual study. Sure.

In soccer longer strides means fewer touches on the ball. Fewer touches on the ball mean fewer decisions and opportunities with the ball which makes for a much less dynamic player. This type of player is great North-South in getting up and down the field but they aren’t very good laterally with the ball or in tight space.

Nonsense. Go tell that to Alex Morgan.

Nonesenes

Take a look at 1:21 mark. Look at that GIANT touch cutting back. She almost lost the ball because it was so big. A player like Lavell or Messi would have had no less than two options, one of which was to split the defenders and go direct to goal versus taking a giant end around. She is simply not capable at speed to split defenders in that type of limited space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdsImZ5MVHk

Alex Morgan is way faster than Lavell. That’s why Morgan is the striker. Messi is not fast either. Plenty of taller faster strikers. That’s why they those two shorter players as good as they are, are not strikers. They don’t have the speed. Because they are short. That’s also why strikers are almost always tall. For the speed.

No Messi is(was) extremely fast and quick. He has lost a step or two but is still fast. Lavelle is fast also.

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Anonymous wrote:Higher turnover also allows you to keep the ball closer which allows for greater change of pace and direction which creates more space and time.

Not if you have a bad touch. More turnover just means you are more likely to lose the ball if you do not have the skills. Seriously there are so few female players that have the control and touch to take a defender on the dribble while still looking to pass. People mistake speed for skill. Watch what happens when the offensive player is stopped from moving forward. Do they create or is it a turnover.

Size(height and weight) plays it’s part- longer reach, more mass, stronger, etc. This is not a debate. They select speed, size and aggression. Go look at any team from u9 through USWNT.

As a side note, you can see the shortest and tallest players on the USWNT playing great soccer at Man City. If you watched the last US friendly Lavelle and Mewis are playing a different game vs the rest of the team. It’s because they are playing at Man city.

Here's your dunce cap. You're not here to learn. You're here to give misinformed rebuttals.

This dude said go look at any U9 to USWNT. Lol. The is next level craziness.

Sure. The players on my DD top team at u9 were big and fast for their age. At u13 selection, the ECNL coaches told the parents we are looking for size and speed. Same thing from the college coaches. Continue to talk about turnover.

You are full of sh@t. Go take a nap

Previous poster is exactly right. Size and speed are the first cut at that age. They think they can train soccer skills in. This is why the US struggles on the men's side and will struggle more on the women's side as the world catches up.

Already seeing it with the Spanish women. The play great soccer.

Remind me what the Spanish women have actually won.

They have only been heavily investing in the women's side in the last decade. But not to dig up a old discussion, feel free to watch Barcelona U15's vs PDA's U15's from last year for a sneak preview of what is yet to come.

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Anonymous wrote:Higher turnover also allows you to keep the ball closer which allows for greater change of pace and direction which creates more space and time.

Not if you have a bad touch. More turnover just means you are more likely to lose the ball if you do not have the skills. Seriously there are so few female players that have the control and touch to take a defender on the dribble while still looking to pass. People mistake speed for skill. Watch what happens when the offensive player is stopped from moving forward. Do they create or is it a turnover.

Size(height and weight) plays it’s part- longer reach, more mass, stronger, etc. This is not a debate. They select speed, size and aggression. Go look at any team from u9 through USWNT.

As a side note, you can see the shortest and tallest players on the USWNT playing great soccer at Man City. If you watched the last US friendly Lavelle and Mewis are playing a different game vs the rest of the team. It’s because they are playing at Man city.

Here's your dunce cap. You're not here to learn. You're here to give misinformed rebuttals.

This dude said go look at any U9 to USWNT. Lol. The is next level craziness.

Sure. The players on my DD top team at u9 were big and fast for their age. At u13 selection, the ECNL coaches told the parents we are looking for size and speed. Same thing from the college coaches. Continue to talk about turnover.

You are full of sh@t. Go take a nap

Previous poster is exactly right. Size and speed are the first cut at that age. They think they can train soccer skills in. This is why the US struggles on the men's side and will struggle more on the women's side as the world catches up.

Already seeing it with the Spanish women. The play great soccer.

Remind me what the Spanish women have actually won.

They have only been heavily investing in the women's side in the last decade. But not to dig up a old discussion, feel free to watch Barcelona U15's vs PDA's U15's from last year for a sneak preview of what is yet to come.

No need to watch youth teams. I doesn't translate. Our YNTs do not peforme like our USWNT.

Just watch the USWNT vs Spain in the last "She believes" Cup. Its apparent. Couple that performance with the World Came and its easy to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Higher turnover also allows you to keep the ball closer which allows for greater change of pace and direction which creates more space and time.

Not if you have a bad touch. More turnover just means you are more likely to lose the ball if you do not have the skills. Seriously there are so few female players that have the control and touch to take a defender on the dribble while still looking to pass. People mistake speed for skill. Watch what happens when the offensive player is stopped from moving forward. Do they create or is it a turnover.

Size(height and weight) plays it’s part- longer reach, more mass, stronger, etc. This is not a debate. They select speed, size and aggression. Go look at any team from u9 through USWNT.

As a side note, you can see the shortest and tallest players on the USWNT playing great soccer at Man City. If you watched the last US friendly Lavelle and Mewis are playing a different game vs the rest of the team. It’s because they are playing at Man city.

Here's your dunce cap. You're not here to learn. You're here to give misinformed rebuttals.

This dude said go look at any U9 to USWNT. Lol. The is next level craziness.

Sure. The players on my DD top team at u9 were big and fast for their age. At u13 selection, the ECNL coaches told the parents we are looking for size and speed. Same thing from the college coaches. Continue to talk about turnover.

You are full of sh@t. Go take a nap

Previous poster is exactly right. Size and speed are the first cut at that age. They think they can train soccer skills in. This is why the US struggles on the men's side and will struggle more on the women's side as the world catches up.

Already seeing it with the Spanish women. The play great soccer.

Remind me what the Spanish women have actually won.

They have only been heavily investing in the women's side in the last decade. But not to dig up a old discussion, feel free to watch Barcelona U15's vs PDA's U15's from last year for a sneak preview of what is yet to come.

No need to watch youth teams. I doesn't translate. Our YNTs do not peforme like our USWNT.

Just watch the USWNT vs Spain in the last "She believes" Cup. Its apparent. Couple that performance with the World Came and its easy to see.

You can look at a team that is near the end of their peak or take a look at what types of players and they style that will be faced will look like moving forward. The development cycle for the current teams is nearly 20 years old now. Projecting USWNT dominance through the 20's based this squad is a poor way to predict future results.

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Anonymous wrote:Higher turnover also allows you to keep the ball closer which allows for greater change of pace and direction which creates more space and time.

Not if you have a bad touch. More turnover just means you are more likely to lose the ball if you do not have the skills. Seriously there are so few female players that have the control and touch to take a defender on the dribble while still looking to pass. People mistake speed for skill. Watch what happens when the offensive player is stopped from moving forward. Do they create or is it a turnover.

Size(height and weight) plays it’s part- longer reach, more mass, stronger, etc. This is not a debate. They select speed, size and aggression. Go look at any team from u9 through USWNT.

As a side note, you can see the shortest and tallest players on the USWNT playing great soccer at Man City. If you watched the last US friendly Lavelle and Mewis are playing a different game vs the rest of the team. It’s because they are playing at Man city.

Here's your dunce cap. You're not here to learn. You're here to give misinformed rebuttals.

This dude said go look at any U9 to USWNT. Lol. The is next level craziness.

Sure. The players on my DD top team at u9 were big and fast for their age. At u13 selection, the ECNL coaches told the parents we are looking for size and speed. Same thing from the college coaches. Continue to talk about turnover.

You are full of sh@t. Go take a nap

Previous poster is exactly right. Size and speed are the first cut at that age. They think they can train soccer skills in. This is why the US struggles on the men's side and will struggle more on the women's side as the world catches up.

Already seeing it with the Spanish women. The play great soccer.

Remind me what the Spanish women have actually won.

They have only been heavily investing in the women's side in the last decade. But not to dig up a old discussion, feel free to watch Barcelona U15's vs PDA's U15's from last year for a sneak preview of what is yet to come.

No need to watch youth teams. I doesn't translate. Our YNTs do not peforme like our USWNT.

Just watch the USWNT vs Spain in the last "She believes" Cup. Its apparent. Couple that performance with the World Came and its easy to see.

At the national team level, it is about results. What have the Spanish women won? Nothing. Not at the senior level. Not at the U20 level. Yeah, they did win 1 World Cup at the U17 level. But then again, North Korea won 4 youth World Cups - 2016 and 2006 U20 and 2016 and 2008 U17 - and look at how well that success translated to their senior team.

I don't know about you, but maybe we should wait until Spain actually wins anything before anointing them the best women's team in the world. Right now, they may not even crack the top 5 best women's teams in Western Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:Higher turnover also allows you to keep the ball closer which allows for greater change of pace and direction which creates more space and time.

Not if you have a bad touch. More turnover just means you are more likely to lose the ball if you do not have the skills. Seriously there are so few female players that have the control and touch to take a defender on the dribble while still looking to pass. People mistake speed for skill. Watch what happens when the offensive player is stopped from moving forward. Do they create or is it a turnover.

Size(height and weight) plays it’s part- longer reach, more mass, stronger, etc. This is not a debate. They select speed, size and aggression. Go look at any team from u9 through USWNT.

As a side note, you can see the shortest and tallest players on the USWNT playing great soccer at Man City. If you watched the last US friendly Lavelle and Mewis are playing a different game vs the rest of the team. It’s because they are playing at Man city.

Here's your dunce cap. You're not here to learn. You're here to give misinformed rebuttals.

This dude said go look at any U9 to USWNT. Lol. The is next level craziness.

Sure. The players on my DD top team at u9 were big and fast for their age. At u13 selection, the ECNL coaches told the parents we are looking for size and speed. Same thing from the college coaches. Continue to talk about turnover.

You are full of sh@t. Go take a nap

Previous poster is exactly right. Size and speed are the first cut at that age. They think they can train soccer skills in. This is why the US struggles on the men's side and will struggle more on the women's side as the world catches up.

Already seeing it with the Spanish women. The play great soccer.

Remind me what the Spanish women have actually won.

They have only been heavily investing in the women's side in the last decade. But not to dig up a old discussion, feel free to watch Barcelona U15's vs PDA's U15's from last year for a sneak preview of what is yet to come.

No need to watch youth teams. I doesn't translate. Our YNTs do not peforme like our USWNT.

Just watch the USWNT vs Spain in the last "She believes" Cup. Its apparent. Couple that performance with the World Came and its easy to see.

If the current USMNT roster stays in place for the 2023 World Cup 15 players will be over 30 years old with 7 of those being 35 and older including one 40 year old among the group.