Female physical attributes for positions

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Anonymous wrote:Higher turnover also allows you to keep the ball closer which allows for greater change of pace and direction which creates more space and time.


Not if you have a bad touch. More turnover just means you are more likely to lose the ball if you do not have the skills. Seriously there are so few female players that have the control and touch to take a defender on the dribble while still looking to pass. People mistake speed for skill. Watch what happens when the offensive player is stopped from moving forward. Do they create or is it a turnover.

Size(height and weight) plays it’s part- longer reach, more mass, stronger, etc. This is not a debate. They select speed, size and aggression. Go look at any team from u9 through USWNT.

As a side note, you can see the shortest and tallest players on the USWNT playing great soccer at Man City. If you watched the last US friendly Lavelle and Mewis are playing a different game vs the rest of the team. It’s because they are playing at Man city.


Here's your dunce cap. You're not here to learn. You're here to give misinformed rebuttals.


This dude said go look at any U9 to USWNT. Lol. The is next level craziness.


Sure. The players on my DD top team at u9 were big and fast for their age. At u13 selection, the ECNL coaches told the parents we are looking for size and speed. Same thing from the college coaches. Continue to talk about turnover.


You are full of sh@t. Go take a nap


Previous poster is exactly right. Size and speed are the first cut at that age. They think they can train soccer skills in. This is why the US struggles on the men's side and will struggle more on the women's side as the world catches up.


Already seeing it with the Spanish women. The play great soccer.


Remind me what the Spanish women have actually won.


They have only been heavily investing in the women's side in the last decade. But not to dig up a old discussion, feel free to watch Barcelona U15's vs PDA's U15's from last year for a sneak preview of what is yet to come.


No need to watch youth teams. I doesn't translate. Our YNTs do not peforme like our USWNT.

Just watch the USWNT vs Spain in the last "She believes" Cup. Its apparent. Couple that performance with the World Came and its easy to see.


At the national team level, it is about results. What have the Spanish women won? Nothing. Not at the senior level. Not at the U20 level. Yeah, they did win 1 World Cup at the U17 level. But then again, North Korea won 4 youth World Cups - 2016 and 2006 U20 and 2016 and 2008 U17 - and look at how well that success translated to their senior team.

I don't know about you, but maybe we should wait until Spain actually wins anything before anointing them the best women's team in the world. Right now, they may not even crack the top 5 best women's teams in Western Europe.


Nobody said that Spain was the best in the world. The point is that Europe is investing heavily in the women's game and the girls youth game is growing in Europe as a result. If you think that our methods, which are no different than the men's side will yield outlier results moving forward against European nations that have a record of developing World Cup contending teams on the men's side and now are growing their women's side that 2023 and beyond is a slam dunk for our USWNT your head is in the sand.

We will still be extremely competitive but the last World Cup was not particularly easy in the knockout stages. We also did not win Gold in the last Olympics with mostly the same roster.
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And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


They are playing there now. The question is how many will come back after the pandemic? That league is very high level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQZT2kKKiRI


https://www.nbcsports.com/video/league/womens-super-league
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


They are playing there now. The question is how many will come back after the pandemic? That league is very high level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQZT2kKKiRI


https://www.nbcsports.com/video/league/womens-super-league


They won't come back because the money is better and the soccer is better.
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.



Shut down NWSL and MLS and let our best develop in Europe. Problem solved
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.



Shut down NWSL and MLS and let our best develop in Europe. Problem solved


Our best youth players will not be able to train in Europe and college soccer will no longer be enough training to beat out European born and European Academy trained players. Our women will face the same problem as our men. FIFA rules that keep our players out of Europe at younger ages necessary to get into the professional academies.

This is why, to a PP it is important to look at the Barca vs PDA U15 game. That level of play and that level of professional training at that young a age just can't be matched here. We are looking at a slow decline over the next decade and then a sharp decent similar to our men's program.
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.



Shut down NWSL and MLS and let our best develop in Europe. Problem solved


Our best youth players will not be able to train in Europe and college soccer will no longer be enough training to beat out European born and European Academy trained players. Our women will face the same problem as our men. FIFA rules that keep our players out of Europe at younger ages necessary to get into the professional academies.

This is why, to a PP it is important to look at the Barca vs PDA U15 game. That level of play and that level of professional training at that young a age just can't be matched here. We are looking at a slow decline over the next decade and then a sharp decent similar to our men's program.


Then I guess USSF should have replicated the process instead of destroying the infrastructure. Another missed opportunity
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.



Shut down NWSL and MLS and let our best develop in Europe. Problem solved


Our best youth players will not be able to train in Europe and college soccer will no longer be enough training to beat out European born and European Academy trained players. Our women will face the same problem as our men. FIFA rules that keep our players out of Europe at younger ages necessary to get into the professional academies.

This is why, to a PP it is important to look at the Barca vs PDA U15 game. That level of play and that level of professional training at that young a age just can't be matched here. We are looking at a slow decline over the next decade and then a sharp decent similar to our men's program.


Then I guess USSF should have replicated the process instead of destroying the infrastructure. Another missed opportunity


You can’t replicate the process when our system is pay to play.
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.



Shut down NWSL and MLS and let our best develop in Europe. Problem solved


Our best youth players will not be able to train in Europe and college soccer will no longer be enough training to beat out European born and European Academy trained players. Our women will face the same problem as our men. FIFA rules that keep our players out of Europe at younger ages necessary to get into the professional academies.

This is why, to a PP it is important to look at the Barca vs PDA U15 game. That level of play and that level of professional training at that young a age just can't be matched here. We are looking at a slow decline over the next decade and then a sharp decent similar to our men's program.


Then I guess USSF should have replicated the process instead of destroying the infrastructure. Another missed opportunity


You can’t replicate the process when our system is pay to play.


Someone has to pay. Nothing is free. We don't have big powerful professional clubs to find it. So think outside the box.
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Using what funding? From what source?
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Using what funding? From what source?



DA was killed because of the women’s national team pay lawsuit. Do not look for any help from US Soccer as long as both genders are under the same organization.
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Anonymous wrote:And, I also find it curious that even though the US is the home to the most dominate women's soccer players in the world the best of our players seem to be moving to European leagues.


It’s because the NWSL would fail without the support of USSF



Right, and how well will our players develop without a strong domestic league? College has served us well in the past for developing talent but if the strongest women's leagues will be in Europe we will fall dramatically behind European professional Academies.



Shut down NWSL and MLS and let our best develop in Europe. Problem solved


Our best youth players will not be able to train in Europe and college soccer will no longer be enough training to beat out European born and European Academy trained players. Our women will face the same problem as our men. FIFA rules that keep our players out of Europe at younger ages necessary to get into the professional academies.

This is why, to a PP it is important to look at the Barca vs PDA U15 game. That level of play and that level of professional training at that young a age just can't be matched here. We are looking at a slow decline over the next decade and then a sharp decent similar to our men's program.


Then I guess USSF should have replicated the process instead of destroying the infrastructure. Another missed opportunity


You can’t replicate the process when our system is pay to play.


Someone has to pay. Nothing is free. We don't have big powerful professional clubs to find it. So think outside the box.


This is correct and this is why we can't replicate the European model. But FIFA rules limit American/Foreign youth players from also going to Europe to train. This is why over time we will fall behind. Europe simply wasn't paying attention to growing the women's game until the last decade or so.

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