Discrimination against Asians

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Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

I don’t see blacks speaking up for Asians when Asians are attacked with hate crimes or other forms of discrimination. In fact, Asians are discriminated in college admissions and employment while blacks get a bump. Look what’s going on fcps. It’s a two way street.

Actually, the civil rights movement in the 60s paved the way for ALL non-white people to have better access to jobs and higher education. Don't act like Asians just showed up and were so incredibly talented and smart that corporations and universities couldn't turn them down.

Kudos for making the most of those opportunities and handing it down to the next generation but please understand that many people paved the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

I don’t see blacks speaking up for Asians when Asians are attacked with hate crimes or other forms of discrimination. In fact, Asians are discriminated in college admissions and employment while blacks get a bump. Look what’s going on fcps. It’s a two way street.

Asians aren't being discriminated against in college admissions. Opening up the admissions pool and considering a wider range of applicants isn't discrimination. Blacks definitely do NOT get a bump in employment...there are tons of facts to prove that. Also, you say look at what's going on in FCPS? You're only talking about TJ (1 school). How about looking at what's been going on for years in the Loudoun County schools. It was so bad that they issued an apology this week for their past discrimination against Blacks.

Either way, your point or my point, all minorities and people of color need to help each other out, and I commend white people for stepping up, especially over the past 6 months. One's triumph shouldn't come at the expense of the other's.

DP.. so .. how is the NAACP helping Asian Americans?

You can either try to understand the point or just act dumb. I think you understand the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

I don’t see blacks speaking up for Asians when Asians are attacked with hate crimes or other forms of discrimination. In fact, Asians are discriminated in college admissions and employment while blacks get a bump. Look what’s going on fcps. It’s a two way street.

Asians aren't being discriminated against in college admissions. Opening up the admissions pool and considering a wider range of applicants isn't discrimination. Blacks definitely do NOT get a bump in employment...there are tons of facts to prove that. Also, you say look at what's going on in FCPS? You're only talking about TJ (1 school). How about looking at what's been going on for years in the Loudoun County schools. It was so bad that they issued an apology this week for their past discrimination against Blacks.

Either way, your point or my point, all minorities and people of color need to help each other out, and I commend white people for stepping up, especially over the past 6 months. One's triumph shouldn't come at the expense of the other's.

You commend white people for stepping up? They aren't giving up any of their privilege. They have a massive share of the pie, and are making minorities squabble over a sliver.

The point was I've seen many white people participating in protests and voicing their dissatisfaction with the way POCs are treated. Of course they are not giving up any of their privilege or spots at elite universities. However, they've done a good job of convincing Asians that Blacks are the enemy when it comes to admissions at elite institutions. In my opinion, Asians should be more concerned with the number of legacies and donor kids that get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

I don’t see blacks speaking up for Asians when Asians are attacked with hate crimes or other forms of discrimination. In fact, Asians are discriminated in college admissions and employment while blacks get a bump. Look what’s going on fcps. It’s a two way street.

Actually, the civil rights movement in the 60s paved the way for ALL non-white people to have better access to jobs and higher education. Don't act like Asians just showed up and were so incredibly talented and smart that corporations and universities couldn't turn them down.

Kudos for making the most of those opportunities and handing it down to the next generation but please understand that many people paved the way.

Yes but Asians are actually and blatantly discriminated all over the the place and blacks are turning a blind eye. Those actions may have helped Asians fifty years ago but not for the past 30 years.

Do you know many Asians are marching with BLM protesters in many cities around the country and BTS fans have donated millions of dollars to BLM as well as troll Trump campaign? Probably not. Please educate your self before making assumptions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

I don’t see blacks speaking up for Asians when Asians are attacked with hate crimes or other forms of discrimination. In fact, Asians are discriminated in college admissions and employment while blacks get a bump. Look what’s going on fcps. It’s a two way street.

Asians aren't being discriminated against in college admissions. Opening up the admissions pool and considering a wider range of applicants isn't discrimination. Blacks definitely do NOT get a bump in employment...there are tons of facts to prove that. Also, you say look at what's going on in FCPS? You're only talking about TJ (1 school). How about looking at what's been going on for years in the Loudoun County schools. It was so bad that they issued an apology this week for their past discrimination against Blacks.

Either way, your point or my point, all minorities and people of color need to help each other out, and I commend white people for stepping up, especially over the past 6 months. One's triumph shouldn't come at the expense of the other's.

DP.. so .. how is the NAACP helping Asian Americans?

You can either try to understand the point or just act dumb. I think you understand the point.

? The point I believe was that minorities should be helping each other, which is exactly what was stated in bold. So, I asked, "How has NAACP helped Asian Americans", and your response is "you don't understand the point"?

I take that to mean, "nothing, they've done nothing for Asian Americans".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope someone compile comments here and send them to the school board. These are the kind of racists' support this proposal attracted. You would think you were at a Trump rally.

"... the many who left Asia will now make America more and more like China"

" Their culture doesn’t seem to be compatible with ours in a number of ways"

"Only white Europeans can be called "colonizers."

Are we not allowed to have “our” culture? All other countries have cultures. If you choose to move to the US you are free to continue living your own culture exclusively, and that is fine and widely accepted, or you can try to assimilate into “our” culture and become a asset to it. It’s your choice.

What is our culture? Is that black culture? Hispanic culture? Indian culture? Mexican culture? What is it?

Our culture is all of the above. It’s the intermingling of cultures. It includes people who are willing and able to have close relationships with others from different backgrounds or at least become acquainted with others, learning a common language helps here. We value integrity, perseverance, freedom, individuality, and creativity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope someone compile comments here and send them to the school board. These are the kind of racists' support this proposal attracted. You would think you were at a Trump rally.

"... the many who left Asia will now make America more and more like China"

" Their culture doesn’t seem to be compatible with ours in a number of ways"

"Only white Europeans can be called "colonizers."

Are we not allowed to have “our” culture? All other countries have cultures. If you choose to move to the US you are free to continue living your own culture exclusively, and that is fine and widely accepted, or you can try to assimilate into “our” culture and become a asset to it. It’s your choice.

What is our culture? Is that black culture? Hispanic culture? Indian culture? Mexican culture? What is it?

Our culture is all of the above. It’s the intermingling of cultures. It includes people who are willing and able to have close relationships with others from different backgrounds or at least become acquainted with others, learning a common language helps here. We value integrity, perseverance, freedom, individuality, and creativity.

I see. You are well acquainted with all of those cultures to come up with that list. Asians value all of those values as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope someone compile comments here and send them to the school board. These are the kind of racists' support this proposal attracted. You would think you were at a Trump rally.

"... the many who left Asia will now make America more and more like China"

" Their culture doesn’t seem to be compatible with ours in a number of ways"

"Only white Europeans can be called "colonizers."

Should we all just sit back and let the chips fall as they may? We need to somehow level the playing field. If certain groups have differing ideas of how to educate and possess the means and extra time for all of this additional prep and practice, that must be considered to be an advantage. This is not racist and should apply to everyone living in the US. Should we just pull the wool over our eyes?

You are a racist. Most racists don't believe they are. They also tend to be fascist. You can't articulate what that singular education looks like -- the "American" education way -- but find fault in others because of race. It is the same argument that uneducated whites use in supporting Trump -- it was never their fault and always foreigners'. Ironically you find an ally in Fairfax democrats.

Spot on! Northam, of course, is busy trying to erase his racist past and has grabbed onto this as a lifeline. So this uneasy alliance between racists and Fairfax democrats isn't really about policy. If Northam were serious about leveling the playing field, he would increase the number of magnet schools, and in the interim, bus kids to white majority well equipped schools like Langley High (cue the pearl clutching) - both these policy directions are in the 2020 Democratic platform. That won't happen though - this was never about anything but the optics.

It is not clear that Northam has taken any great personal interest in the composition of Governor's Schools.

Obviously Atif Qarni has, as have quite a few members of the legislature in Virginia.

Vouchers, more charter schools and more magnet schools is generally from the GOP playbook, but it's a non-starter in Fairfax County. It's very clear that there will be no more magnet schools and the existing one in FCPS - TJHSST - is largely viewed as a massive headache to be managed to expand enrollment by Black, Hispanic, and low-income students.

I am not sure why Asians think whites are going to fret too much about Asians having to score higher on standardized tests to gain admission to certain schools, when Asians enroll in top schools in higher percentages than their overall percentage of the population and whites also frequently need to have higher scores, unless they have something else in their favor, such as legacy status or athletic skill that might give them a boost. In general, it is seen as a necessity in a pluralistic society where many URMs and low-income kids face challenges or lack advantages that white and Asian kids possess.

If that's unsatisfying to Asians, and they want to adhere rigorously to the notion of a color-blind meritocracy, then the GOP might be a better place for them (although, of course, the GOP today is basically the Trump Party, and that has its own baggage to sort out). It's not as if there aren't already some very conservative Asians, primarily Chinese, in NoVa, who have supported conservative (and unsuccessful) School Board candidates in the last two School Board elections. But tossing Langley HS into the mix is probably an exercise in "what-aboutism"; for the most part, the same people who oppose any changes to TJ admission policies also object to any suggestion that Langley should be redistricted, making very similar arguments (kids who work the hardest deserve to go to TJ, regardless of race; parents who work hard to afford a home in the Langley district deserve for their kids to go there, regardless of income, etc.).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

Not true. Andrew Yang speaks up against discrimination against blacks all the time. He was endorsed by Van Jones, Dave Chappelle and other black leaders.

This issue has nothing to do with one minority against other minorities. It's really cutting down Asians in favor of whites but in the name of helping another shade of brown folks.

[Anonymous]

Essentially in Asian school applications Asians are competing against Asians. That is how it works at the colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope someone compile comments here and send them to the school board. These are the kind of racists' support this proposal attracted. You would think you were at a Trump rally.

"... the many who left Asia will now make America more and more like China"

" Their culture doesn’t seem to be compatible with ours in a number of ways"

"Only white Europeans can be called "colonizers."

Are we not allowed to have “our” culture? All other countries have cultures. If you choose to move to the US you are free to continue living your own culture exclusively, and that is fine and widely accepted, or you can try to assimilate into “our” culture and become a asset to it. It’s your choice.

What is our culture? Is that black culture? Hispanic culture? Indian culture? Mexican culture? What is it?

Our culture is all of the above. It’s the intermingling of cultures. It includes people who are willing and able to have close relationships with others from different backgrounds or at least become acquainted with others, learning a common language helps here. We value integrity, perseverance, freedom, individuality, and creativity.

I see. You are well acquainted with all of those cultures to come up with that list. Asians value all of those values as well.

Yes, I have always had many close friends from multiple backgrounds. No one is disputing that Asians have poor core values.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

Not true. Andrew Yang speaks up against discrimination against blacks all the time. He was endorsed by Van Jones, Dave Chappelle and other black leaders.

This issue has nothing to do with one minority against other minorities. It's really cutting down Asians in favor of whites but in the name of helping another shade of brown folks.

Everyone always brings up Andrew Yang. We get it. Andrew Yang is great!!! What about the regular non-celebrity folks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

Not true. Andrew Yang speaks up against discrimination against blacks all the time. He was endorsed by Van Jones, Dave Chappelle and other black leaders.

This issue has nothing to do with one minority against other minorities. It's really cutting down Asians in favor of whites but in the name of helping another shade of brown folks.

Everyone always brings up Andrew Yang. We get it. Andrew Yang is great!!! What about the regular non-celebrity folks?

+1 He is a freaking politician. It’s his job to pander.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My personal opinion: I hear so much about discrimination against Asians when it comes to getting into elite schools. However, what I don't see is Asians speaking up about discrimination against other minorities when it comes to basic human rights. Asians have benefited from the struggles and efforts of other minorities to bring about social change so that all races can be accepted in the US. This includes employment and housing. So, it's a slap in the face when I don't see or hear any Asians speaking up against racism against other people of color.

When I see more Asians get involved with the movements to bring about equal rights for every one, then I'll care about Asians getting a fair shake at getting accepted to TJ or an Ivy League school.

As I said, this is just my personal opinion.

I don’t see blacks speaking up for Asians when Asians are attacked with hate crimes or other forms of discrimination. In fact, Asians are discriminated in college admissions and employment while blacks get a bump. Look what’s going on fcps. It’s a two way street.

Actually, the civil rights movement in the 60s paved the way for ALL non-white people to have better access to jobs and higher education. Don't act like Asians just showed up and were so incredibly talented and smart that corporations and universities couldn't turn them down.

Kudos for making the most of those opportunities and handing it down to the next generation but please understand that many people paved the way.

Yes but Asians are actually and blatantly discriminated all over the the place and blacks are turning a blind eye. Those actions may have helped Asians fifty years ago but not for the past 30 years.

Do you know many Asians are marching with BLM protesters in many cities around the country and BTS fans have donated millions of dollars to BLM as well as troll Trump campaign? Probably not. Please educate your self before making assumptions.

+100

[Anonymous]

Is Kamala Harris Asian or Black ?