The officer is not guilty for restraining the man. It was the WAY he restrained that man that was improper and, yes, the officer is liable for that. Unfortunately, the person who is now dead is a man who made a bad choice by resisting the officer in the first place. The man is the one who instigated the physical altercation in the first place. I know that you do not want to hear it but that is what happened. Should he have had his neck kneeled on? No way. Was that officer on some type of power kick? Absolutely. Did the officer use a proper restraint on the guy? No. Who is now dead? The man who physically resisted the officers. Had he made a different choice, he likely would not be dead. You don't want to hear that but that is the truth. All the protests over his death is not going to bring him back. Hold the bad officers accountable for their crimes - absolutely. |
| Big city Mayors better step up already. |
First change I would make is requiring police to live in the city that they serve. Don’t want to do that? Go find another job. |
+1 Again, let me put it to you this way: A BLACK man allegedly uses a fraudulent check. He fit the description of the person who used the check and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. There was no investigation. No charge. No conviction. He instead was arrested on the street, humiliated in front of people standing by and ultimately slowly, painfully, excruciatingly executed at broad daylight, with several witnesses, cameras rolling. He was never convicted of a crime. The four WHITE man that KILLED this man (not allegedly, because, in this case, there are witnesses, video evidence, all the proof is right there) lose their jobs (gasp), but now an "investigation" will take place to decide their fate. They weren't handcuffed and taken to jail. They will get to take warm showers, have dinners with their families and kiss their kids good night while an investigation (by people who look like them, think like them and likely see them as heroes) happens. |
There is video upthread of him resisting. The cops were ordering him out of his vehicle, he wasn't complying and it took two of them to get him out. You probably didn't see that part and I hadn't, either. Once I saw that he had actually gotten physical with the cops - more resisting them but still physical - that was when I could see that they had a reason to get him physically restrained. They had no right to kneel on his neck like that and it was crazy how the other cops there did nothing to stop him. |
They used to do that in some cities, and officers left to other departments. Overall, it wasn't a good move. A big problem is that LE doesnt attract many people who really want to help people. Very few people in LE actually volunteer, much unlike my friends who work in fire/EMS, though it's a bit anecdotal. |
Offer proof of the bolded or GTFO. |
Please continue to contrive lengthy dissertations explaining your rationale for blaming the victim. I can sum up everyone’s response to your term papers...
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Looks like state sanctioned lynching to me.
Most white people devalue black l ives in a multitude of ways, from implicit bias in medicine to straight out murder. It's a deep sickness in this country and we won't ever change unless we own up to our crimes past and present. I'm constantly confronting my own participation in a racially unjust society, my lack of real action, be wise I live in the comfort zone of whiteness. |
How exactly are you owning up to your crimes? Perhaps handcuff yourself on house arrest for a few years. |
So you don’t have any constructive thoughts? |
The very definition of victim blame. The reason nothing changes is because this narrative (which likely isn't even true in this case) always wins in the long run. -- Not black, but a rape survivor who, yes, drank too much that night... |
If you want to tell your kids to watch out for dirty cops, go ahead. But even if he was resisting arrest that’s not a death sentence. Still 100% on the cop. It wasn’t a freak accident. It was 100% the cop’s actions. Stop shifting the blame. |
Exactly. He wasn’t “asking for it” FFS. |
Cop is doing jail. Man is still dead. No one wins. Now what??? |