I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight

[Anonymous]

“I don’t favor violence. If we could bring about recognition and respect of our people by peaceful means, well and good. Everybody would like to reach his objectives peacefully. But I’m also a realist. The only people in this country who are asked to be nonviolent are black people.”
— Malcolm X

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most cops are pretty stupid. Military folks too. It gets lost in all the ‘hero’ worship.

Hey now. Don’t confuse the military folks with cops. Most military folks know how to follow orders and are often very humble. Not as many power trips like police.

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Anonymous wrote:PS I think we all owe it to George Floyd and our black and brown brothers and sisters to share this horrifying video and publicly condemn it. It is stomach turning to watch. We need our stomachs turned. We need to get outraged. We need to change this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirHz93qJ50

I would show this video to my kid and say "Whatever you do, do not make the police get physical with you. Do what they ask you to do and keep your hands where they can see them. If they ask you for your license and registration and you have to reach into the glove compartment to get them, say "Officer, I need to reach into the glove compartment to get my registration. I need to reach in my pocket to get my license."

In fact, I have already told my kid just that.

I am NOT defending that cop for kneeling on that man's neck until he died BUT this all could have been avoided if that man had been respectful and compliant from the get go. Again - I am not saying that what this cop did was in anyway excusable. I am saying that the man would still be alive today had he been respectful and compliant with the officers.

We need to get this message across to our kids somehow, someway.

I'm not black, but you're making my blood boil. Pretty much every black person I know, especially parents of boys, has this conversation with their kids...except, it's more like, "One day the police will get physical with you. This is what you do to stay alive." As another PP pointed out, Philando Castile did everything you are describing...and he got murdered in front of a pre-schooler for it.

I have said that you can do everything right and still have this happen. The man in this particular video that we have been talking about DID resist arrest, he was not compliant and that is why the officers took him to the ground. The officer should never have kneeled on the man's neck like that. But the bottom line is the one who is dead is the guy who got his neck kneeled on. Would he have gotten his neck kneeled on if he had simply complied - most likely NO.

No. The police officer is 100% responsible for his actions. No victim blaming here.

The officer is responsible for kneeling on the man's neck and using an improper restraint on him that restricted his airway and killed him. I have said repeatedly that I consider what he did to be a crime and he should be punished for it.

However, since the man was physically resisting arrest, the officers were doing nothing wrong by physically bringing him to the ground. It was what happened once on the ground that caused this man's death and that is where the cops went wrong. I am going to tell my own kids, for their own survival, to NEVER get physical with a cop, ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The victim in this case can not be blamed. A perfect storm of a case. And the cop looked so smug and was taunting him. Horrible power trip.

Way too many people are on a power trip these days! They’re taking lives all over the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most cops are pretty stupid. Military folks too. It gets lost in all the ‘hero’ worship.

Hey now. Don’t confuse the military folks with cops. Most military folks know how to follow orders and are often very humble. Not as many power trips like police.

Many cops are former military so they are often one and the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Who here supports the looting and rioting?

I support the protesting. The city deserves to feel their anger. Too many people have been willing to sit silent and let stuff like this happen over and over again.

Yes. We should all protest.

With looting and rioting?

If it happens, it happens. If I had a backhoe I’d offer it up to tear down the police HQ.

The protestors were attacked first with tear gas. This is what happens when the police escalate violence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PS I think we all owe it to George Floyd and our black and brown brothers and sisters to share this horrifying video and publicly condemn it. It is stomach turning to watch. We need our stomachs turned. We need to get outraged. We need to change this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirHz93qJ50

I would show this video to my kid and say "Whatever you do, do not make the police get physical with you. Do what they ask you to do and keep your hands where they can see them. If they ask you for your license and registration and you have to reach into the glove compartment to get them, say "Officer, I need to reach into the glove compartment to get my registration. I need to reach in my pocket to get my license."

In fact, I have already told my kid just that.

I am NOT defending that cop for kneeling on that man's neck until he died BUT this all could have been avoided if that man had been respectful and compliant from the get go. Again - I am not saying that what this cop did was in anyway excusable. I am saying that the man would still be alive today had he been respectful and compliant with the officers.

We need to get this message across to our kids somehow, someway.

I'm not black, but you're making my blood boil. Pretty much every black person I know, especially parents of boys, has this conversation with their kids...except, it's more like, "One day the police will get physical with you. This is what you do to stay alive." As another PP pointed out, Philando Castile did everything you are describing...and he got murdered in front of a pre-schooler for it.

I have said that you can do everything right and still have this happen. The man in this particular video that we have been talking about DID resist arrest, he was not compliant and that is why the officers took him to the ground. The officer should never have kneeled on the man's neck like that. But the bottom line is the one who is dead is the guy who got his neck kneeled on. Would he have gotten his neck kneeled on if he had simply complied - most likely NO.

No. The police officer is 100% responsible for his actions. No victim blaming here.

The officer is responsible for kneeling on the man's neck and using an improper restraint on him that restricted his airway and killed him. I have said repeatedly that I consider what he did to be a crime and he should be punished for it.

However, since the man was physically resisting arrest, the officers were doing nothing wrong by physically bringing him to the ground. It was what happened once on the ground that caused this man's death and that is where the cops went wrong. I am going to tell my own kids, for their own survival, to NEVER get physical with a cop, ever.

No “howevers”.

The police officer is 100% responsible for his actions. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am going to tell my own kids, for their own survival, to NEVER get physical with a cop, ever.

Please go tell them now. Sit down and have a lengthy discussion with them. Surely that crucial parenting responsibility takes precedence over insisting everyone agree on here with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Who here supports the looting and rioting?

I support the protesting. The city deserves to feel their anger. Too many people have been willing to sit silent and let stuff like this happen over and over again.

Yes. We should all protest.

With looting and rioting?

If it happens, it happens. If I had a backhoe I’d offer it up to tear down the police HQ.

The protestors were attacked first with tear gas. This is what happens when the police escalate violence.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who here supports the looting and rioting?

I don’t encourage lawlessness. But I get it. The cops created the situation and it will need to run its course. Tear gassing people won’t do it. Putting the bad cops in jail awaiting a bail hearing would be a start.

Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:PS I think we all owe it to George Floyd and our black and brown brothers and sisters to share this horrifying video and publicly condemn it. It is stomach turning to watch. We need our stomachs turned. We need to get outraged. We need to change this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirHz93qJ50

I would show this video to my kid and say "Whatever you do, do not make the police get physical with you. Do what they ask you to do and keep your hands where they can see them. If they ask you for your license and registration and you have to reach into the glove compartment to get them, say "Officer, I need to reach into the glove compartment to get my registration. I need to reach in my pocket to get my license."

In fact, I have already told my kid just that.

I am NOT defending that cop for kneeling on that man's neck until he died BUT this all could have been avoided if that man had been respectful and compliant from the get go. Again - I am not saying that what this cop did was in anyway excusable. I am saying that the man would still be alive today had he been respectful and compliant with the officers.

We need to get this message across to our kids somehow, someway.

I'm not black, but you're making my blood boil. Pretty much every black person I know, especially parents of boys, has this conversation with their kids...except, it's more like, "One day the police will get physical with you. This is what you do to stay alive." As another PP pointed out, Philando Castile did everything you are describing...and he got murdered in front of a pre-schooler for it.

I have said that you can do everything right and still have this happen. The man in this particular video that we have been talking about DID resist arrest, he was not compliant and that is why the officers took him to the ground. The officer should never have kneeled on the man's neck like that. But the bottom line is the one who is dead is the guy who got his neck kneeled on. Would he have gotten his neck kneeled on if he had simply complied - most likely NO.

No. The police officer is 100% responsible for his actions. No victim blaming here.

The officer is responsible for kneeling on the man's neck and using an improper restraint on him that restricted his airway and killed him. I have said repeatedly that I consider what he did to be a crime and he should be punished for it.

However, since the man was physically resisting arrest, the officers were doing nothing wrong by physically bringing him to the ground. It was what happened once on the ground that caused this man's death and that is where the cops went wrong. I am going to tell my own kids, for their own survival, to NEVER get physical with a cop, ever.

Any proof that he was resisting? And no, we are not relying on the dirty cops’ word. They are lying bastards.

Two videos so far show the victim not resisting in any way. Further, the idiot cops took him out of the car only to murder him in front of a crowd.

Bring proof or STFU.

-White Man

[Anonymous]

Just saw article there’s protests in LA as well. Maybe that’s old news? 1000 protesters. Do we think there will be protesters in DC?

This killing comes right on the heels of those men in Georgia chasing down and killing the black jogger while the one guy was filming.

Stuff is getting bad. And weird. Things falling apart?

[Anonymous]

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I’d like to hear some constructive solutions here...

And yes, the criminal cops (and others) must be held accountable!!

That isn't going to happen on this site. There are very few people on here with actual LE experience, and they get drowned out by hateful people making long winded ignorant statements. Or they just accuse you of being a racist or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PS I think we all owe it to George Floyd and our black and brown brothers and sisters to share this horrifying video and publicly condemn it. It is stomach turning to watch. We need our stomachs turned. We need to get outraged. We need to change this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirHz93qJ50

I would show this video to my kid and say "Whatever you do, do not make the police get physical with you. Do what they ask you to do and keep your hands where they can see them. If they ask you for your license and registration and you have to reach into the glove compartment to get them, say "Officer, I need to reach into the glove compartment to get my registration. I need to reach in my pocket to get my license."

In fact, I have already told my kid just that.

I am NOT defending that cop for kneeling on that man's neck until he died BUT this all could have been avoided if that man had been respectful and compliant from the get go. Again - I am not saying that what this cop did was in anyway excusable. I am saying that the man would still be alive today had he been respectful and compliant with the officers.

We need to get this message across to our kids somehow, someway.

I'm not black, but you're making my blood boil. Pretty much every black person I know, especially parents of boys, has this conversation with their kids...except, it's more like, "One day the police will get physical with you. This is what you do to stay alive." As another PP pointed out, Philando Castile did everything you are describing...and he got murdered in front of a pre-schooler for it.

I have said that you can do everything right and still have this happen. The man in this particular video that we have been talking about DID resist arrest, he was not compliant and that is why the officers took him to the ground. The officer should never have kneeled on the man's neck like that. But the bottom line is the one who is dead is the guy who got his neck kneeled on. Would he have gotten his neck kneeled on if he had simply complied - most likely NO.

No. The police officer is 100% responsible for his actions. No victim blaming here.

The officer is responsible for kneeling on the man's neck and using an improper restraint on him that restricted his airway and killed him. I have said repeatedly that I consider what he did to be a crime and he should be punished for it.

However, since the man was physically resisting arrest, the officers were doing nothing wrong by physically bringing him to the ground. It was what happened once on the ground that caused this man's death and that is where the cops went wrong. I am going to tell my own kids, for their own survival, to NEVER get physical with a cop, ever.

Any proof that he was resisting? And no, we are not relying on the dirty cops’ word. They are lying bastards.

Two videos so far show the victim not resisting in any way. Further, the idiot cops took him out of the car only to murder him in front of a crowd.

Bring proof or STFU.

-White Man

Yeah this person needs to stop spouting things that appear to be made up. Like that he was resisting. I’ve seen no evidence he was resisting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw article there’s protests in LA as well. Maybe that’s old news? 1000 protesters. Do we think there will be protesters in DC?

This killing comes right on the heels of those men in Georgia chasing down and killing the black jogger while the one guy was filming.

Stuff is getting bad. And weird. Things falling apart?

And the center does not hold
Yes