F off snowflake. People like you are part of the problem. Can’t fix a problem that can’t be spoken about or doesn’t exist ![]() |
Guess what, 3 of those cities mentioned in the richest neighborhoods are either in MoCo or McLean. Not one in DC.Of course, if you're poor, you're not going to move to the city to live in a shoebox for a gazillion dollars. Wealthy and smart people (be they white or non-white) don't give an F about what's trendy or not trendy as long as they're doing what makes sense for them. Schools are a big factor. |
I’m not the person you’re arguing with but your use of “snowflake” outs you as a biased source as far as I’m concerned. Clearly, people understand that demographics are changing. The suburbanization of poverty is a real trend across the country. But you are the one stating minority = poor = bad = failure. How exactly does it work that schools that have physically remained in the same place in the suburbs are now “urban-ish” unless urban is the dog whistle for not white? We get it. Schools in MCPS are less white. Many of us — even white people — think that’s fine. Children aren’t “decay.” Let’s all get on board with solutions for how to best educate the children who actually live in the county. |
So I guess we are going to have to agree on what constitutes education? Right now all kids are getting educated but yet something isn’t right according to who? Maybe it is the college for all model doesn’t apply to poor kids who most don’t go to college? Maybe it is the test score/FARM rate ranking system that rubs people the wrong way that causes the glaring SES stratification. Maybe it because softies like you confuse equal access with equal opportunities let alone equal outcomes the last two are but pipe dreams in resource contrived meritocracies. All things are not equal, poor does equal failure at a much higher proclivity and too many poor people can and do crash systems (not just educational) . Those are the facts based off of every historical measure. The county is getting in influx of people who fall below the regional middle class threshold. When you have more not middle class people logic states the ability to maintain an iconic middle class school system will be challenged. If you then turn around and compare the first changed schools to the legacy/richer schools it makes it look like the schools are slipping but is it really the schools? Do you think it is realistic to replicate Whitman in Langley Park with all the school funds possible? Most educators don’t. If the county becomes bifurcated the schools will and have followed, mix all you want but rich people tend to stay one step ahead, always have always will. You’re chasing the systemic ghosts of social engineering with new and different social engineering. But nothing you do will fundamentally move the needle for poor kids in a society with not nearly as much social mobility as people pretend it has. And mixing the metrics to obscure the early schools in trouble won’t stop more poor kids from coming in and dropping test scores in predictable curves. I assure you they aren’t moving to Chevy Chase. Also point out where I correlated failure to race? Your own stereotypes color your comprehension. |
I partially agree with you - on the school part. If there are problems, they are not really problems of the schools. People here tend to use schools as a tool trying to solve social issues which are not supposed to be solved by schools. I don't have enough information to comment on whether there are serious social issues and how they can be solved. I just do not believe schools should be used for that purpose. Maybe we should just do nothing and people will try to work things out. Or maybe we can do something to help, but not using our schools, |
What about them? The 4th and 5th grade CES centers make sense but after that MS and HS bussing across the county in rush hour makes little sense. The family should just move closer after getting in, unless it makes for a terrible office commute. |
It’s more basic than that: the $hit k-8 curriculum, the jokester grading system, the constant MAPs and PARCC testing, the slashed class schedules cutting science, social studies, gym, arts, the hogtied teachers by Central Office, the neglect of any nonTitle1 or magnet program school, and so in. I don’t know many parents with options that would really choose MCPS nowadays without supplementing like crazy to fill in the holes and create a well rounded education. MCPS is not serving the average student or above average student well. And despite all the time, attention and pouring of money, the dismal proficiency scores of FARMs and ESOL prove that MCPS is also failing to teach basic math and reading to its bottom students as well. No wonder they cut every other subject and doubled the time - for all of the counties k-5- in math and ELA. The most pathetic class schedule I’ve ever seen in a public elementary school. MCPS should be ashamed. |
Agree and Agree. |
I don't think you could replicate Whitman most places since it's basically a segregated school and without practices like red-lining that kind of thing doesn't happen these days. |
My god woman! The PP was talking about replicating educational success of Whitman in Langley Park. Everything in your life, every decision, and every thought, every dream, must revolve around race and skin color. The world has so much more to offer. |
"Your own stereotypes color your comprehension" this was brilliantly stated and spot on. People like this make everything about race because they see everything being about race without taking any agency for the way things are. |
I see so much more anger, cynicism, and cruelty on this thread than I do at my child’s “bad” high school. |
It is so much about income, and not about race. Yet that's what everyone jumps to. With the boundary assessment coming, MCPS is about to undertake the largest social experiment in modern history. Good luck to them. I'm glad my youngest will be done with MCPS before the study comes out - or maybe at the same time, but already accepted to college! |
When do you think modern history started, 2016? |
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