Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

[Anonymous]

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Don, five seats isn't going to take back the House. Do the math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Don, five seats isn't going to take back the House. Do the math.

Care to predict the composition of the House in January?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to snuff out the voices of every Virginian who lives outside of NoVA, vote YES.

They happily take our NOVA money so vote YES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to snuff out the voices of every Virginian who lives outside of NoVA, vote YES.

They happily take our NOVA money so vote YES.

Is that the latest narrative? The excuse for disenfranchising millions of Virginians? So you think you can buy these seats?

I seriously hope this referendum fails spectacularly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

LOL. Everyone said Harris was exaggerating about Trump wanting to be a dictator and here we are. You have some nerve to say that Dems' anti-Trump messaging is off-putting. Do you want more of this *waves hand around* or not?!?

Just be clear that a no vote gives Trump/MAGA more power. That's the messaging and the truth. He told Texas to disenfranchise voters and change the maps. Every Dem state has put the decision to the voters. You're welcome to vote no, but at least be honest about it -- and it's repercussions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

[Anonymous]

who has achieved aggressive map-drawing?

[Anonymous]

The DNC is desperate to regain power. So much so they will disenfranchise citizens.


The excuse is but but Trump.

In 2023 and 2024, the Dems preached that a vote for Trump was the end of democracy and yet they allowed a senile man run for the presidential ticket. Biden delayed dropping out, so that dem voters no longer had the ability to have a legitimate primary.

Think about it.

This will not be temporary.
And Dems do not care about democracy. They only care about power, just like their republicans counterparts.

[Anonymous]

Done! VOTED YES!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to snuff out the voices of every Virginian who lives outside of NoVA, vote YES.

They happily take our NOVA money so vote YES.

Is that the latest narrative? The excuse for disenfranchising millions of Virginians? So you think you can buy these seats?

I seriously hope this referendum fails spectacularly.

So it's ok from Repugnants nationwide to try to overthrow the government in efforts to overturn an election, change voting laws and redraw maps, but Dems are the problem. Riiiiiiiight! You reap what you sow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

You make is sound like this all started with Texas. BOTH sides are guilty of gerrymandering. The Dems did it in IL, NY, CA (even before Prop 50) and MD, to name a few. This difference is that in Virginia, we fixed it in 2020 with a constitutional amendment that created a bi-partisan commission that works. Now you want to blow that up, arguing that two wrongs make a right? And that the end justifies the means? You wouldn't accept that logic from you kids, would you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

If this passes and Spanberger and Dems fail to have control, are you ok with GOP renewing/duplicating this amendment? If this passes, there is no going back. You will have given the GOP the keys to the kingdom. Even if the Dems manage to hold and control seats, mark my words, they will not anllow this amendment to expire. One day they will lose, and the GOP will use this with impunity.

I’ve said it before, if you want to take down Trump, you need to hurt him financially (if you can’t jail him.

The good news? Trump is old and can’t live too much longer.

Hope you’re good with that short term gain for long term loss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

You make is sound like this all started with Texas. BOTH sides are guilty of gerrymandering. The Dems did it in IL, NY, CA (even before Prop 50) and MD, to name a few. This difference is that in Virginia, we fixed it in 2020 with a constitutional amendment that created a bi-partisan commission that works. Now you want to blow that up, arguing that two wrongs make a right? And that the end justifies the means? You wouldn't accept that logic from you kids, would you?

The mid-decade redistricting by fiat from the President is what started with Texas. No one had ever done that before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don, five seats isn't going to take back the House. Do the math.

Care to predict the composition of the House in January?

Republicans hold a 2 seat majority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

If this passes and Spanberger and Dems fail to have control, are you ok with GOP renewing/duplicating this amendment? If this passes, there is no going back. You will have given the GOP the keys to the kingdom. Even if the Dems manage to hold and control seats, mark my words, they will not anllow this amendment to expire. One day they will lose, and the GOP will use this with impunity.

I’ve said it before, if you want to take down Trump, you need to hurt him financially (if you can’t jail him.

The good news? Trump is old and can’t live too much longer.

Hope you’re good with that short term gain for long term loss.

Good grief, Republicans are hypocritical. This administration has blown up every norm protecting our democracy and citizens. They expressly stated their goal of picking up 5 Republican seats by redisticting in TX, argue vociferously for the SAVE Act, argue that any election that the Republicans lose must not have been valid, and then claim that the VA vote on redistricting goes to far. 🙄