what is wrong with modern kids and no motivation to shovel?

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

Hell, I'd shovel for $40/hr if I know the people have the money. I already shoveled for our two elderly neighbors and I'd never expect to be paid for it. Your kids can't be bothered even if there is money involved. Why? You've raised them that way.

My mom volunteers at the senior center and there are plenty of elderly who don't have enough to pay their bills even though they have a paid off home. Their SS check doesn't stretch as far as it used to. They need help paying their ridiculous electricity bills. One women lives in a one bedroom condo and her bill was over $600 last month. If I didn't supplement my mom's SS check, she'd need help too. Not every Baby Boomer is swimming in cash. You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

[Anonymous]

You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

You absolutely can, but it tracks that someone as ignorant as PP wouldn't know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son at college bought a snow shovel and dug his girlfriend's car out. I was very proud of him.

And what did his girlfriend do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son at college bought a snow shovel and dug his girlfriend's car out. I was very proud of him.

And what did his girlfriend do?

Showed her appreciation, obviously.

[Anonymous]

The tweens in our neighborhood were doing it for free because their parents told them to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The tweens in our neighborhood were doing it for free because their parents told them to.

They have good parents. I told mine to refuse money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

Hell, I'd shovel for $40/hr if I know the people have the money. I already shoveled for our two elderly neighbors and I'd never expect to be paid for it. Your kids can't be bothered even if there is money involved. Why? You've raised them that way.

My mom volunteers at the senior center and there are plenty of elderly who don't have enough to pay their bills even though they have a paid off home. Their SS check doesn't stretch as far as it used to. They need help paying their ridiculous electricity bills. One women lives in a one bedroom condo and her bill was over $600 last month. If I didn't supplement my mom's SS check, she'd need help too. Not every Baby Boomer is swimming in cash. You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

Well, as I said, if your mom doesn't have money to pay her bills, it's your job to supplement and pay for snow removal. It doesn't become some random teen's problem. The teens don't have a SS check or any permanent income, so it's the wrong age group to stiff. So it's not only your mom who is stiffing teens, it's you too! If you want to do snow removal yourself for free, go for it, but don't expect others to do free labor for you! Your family's inability to plan for retirement and manage finances is not somebody else's problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The tweens in our neighborhood were doing it for free because their parents told them to.

They have good parents. I told mine to refuse money.

That’s great that you’re rich. But you don’t sound like a good person if you’re judging teens for taking money for backbreaking work adults are charging hundreds of dollars for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

Hell, I'd shovel for $40/hr if I know the people have the money. I already shoveled for our two elderly neighbors and I'd never expect to be paid for it. Your kids can't be bothered even if there is money involved. Why? You've raised them that way.

My mom volunteers at the senior center and there are plenty of elderly who don't have enough to pay their bills even though they have a paid off home. Their SS check doesn't stretch as far as it used to. They need help paying their ridiculous electricity bills. One women lives in a one bedroom condo and her bill was over $600 last month. If I didn't supplement my mom's SS check, she'd need help too. Not every Baby Boomer is swimming in cash. You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

Well, as I said, if your mom doesn't have money to pay her bills, it's your job to supplement and pay for snow removal. It doesn't become some random teen's problem. The teens don't have a SS check or any permanent income, so it's the wrong age group to stiff. So it's not only your mom who is stiffing teens, it's you too! If you want to do snow removal yourself for free, go for it, but don't expect others to do free labor for you! Your family's inability to plan for retirement and manage finances is not somebody else's problem.

+1 many elderly people downsize and moved to a home with much less maintenance which is often safer and more efficient for the person. It is not the job of DMV area teens to work for free to keep someone in their million dollar home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

Hell, I'd shovel for $40/hr if I know the people have the money. I already shoveled for our two elderly neighbors and I'd never expect to be paid for it. Your kids can't be bothered even if there is money involved. Why? You've raised them that way.

My mom volunteers at the senior center and there are plenty of elderly who don't have enough to pay their bills even though they have a paid off home. Their SS check doesn't stretch as far as it used to. They need help paying their ridiculous electricity bills. One women lives in a one bedroom condo and her bill was over $600 last month. If I didn't supplement my mom's SS check, she'd need help too. Not every Baby Boomer is swimming in cash. You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

Well, as I said, if your mom doesn't have money to pay her bills, it's your job to supplement and pay for snow removal. It doesn't become some random teen's problem. The teens don't have a SS check or any permanent income, so it's the wrong age group to stiff. So it's not only your mom who is stiffing teens, it's you too! If you want to do snow removal yourself for free, go for it, but don't expect others to do free labor for you! Your family's inability to plan for retirement and manage finances is not somebody else's problem.

No its not her job to supplement. Good neighbors help out. You don't sound like a kind person. Maybe you should manage your finances better if you are that wealthy and expect your teens to work every chance they get to pay for their needs.

I'd be furoious at my kid for charging our elderly neighbors. They shoveled them out with their dad without us even asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

Hell, I'd shovel for $40/hr if I know the people have the money. I already shoveled for our two elderly neighbors and I'd never expect to be paid for it. Your kids can't be bothered even if there is money involved. Why? You've raised them that way.

My mom volunteers at the senior center and there are plenty of elderly who don't have enough to pay their bills even though they have a paid off home. Their SS check doesn't stretch as far as it used to. They need help paying their ridiculous electricity bills. One women lives in a one bedroom condo and her bill was over $600 last month. If I didn't supplement my mom's SS check, she'd need help too. Not every Baby Boomer is swimming in cash. You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

Well, as I said, if your mom doesn't have money to pay her bills, it's your job to supplement and pay for snow removal. It doesn't become some random teen's problem. The teens don't have a SS check or any permanent income, so it's the wrong age group to stiff. So it's not only your mom who is stiffing teens, it's you too! If you want to do snow removal yourself for free, go for it, but don't expect others to do free labor for you! Your family's inability to plan for retirement and manage finances is not somebody else's problem.

+1 many elderly people downsize and moved to a home with much less maintenance which is often safer and more efficient for the person. It is not the job of DMV area teens to work for free to keep someone in their million dollar home.

Some of us cannot downsize as we have very small houses that aren't a million dollars. Its about being a good person and good neighbor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tweens in our neighborhood were doing it for free because their parents told them to.

They have good parents. I told mine to refuse money.

That’s great that you’re rich. But you don’t sound like a good person if you’re judging teens for taking money for backbreaking work adults are charging hundreds of dollars for.

No, we are far from rich and live in a home you'd never live in. But, we have our values and priorities and helping neighbors when they need help is a given, free of charge as one day we will be those neighbors needing the help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of these kids are studying because that is their full time job and they carry heavy academic loads that include tons of honors and AP classes. So let them study OP, they want to work smart and not hard when they grow up. Besides many neighborhoods have crews to come in and do that hard work.

Kids can do multiple things.
And they are not learning to work smarter. They are learning to be lazy and entitled. The results are in a gen x sucks as parents

Yes they can PP. They can do physics, linear algebra, comp sci, chemistry. Instead of going into cardiac arrest on the side of the road shoveling your lowball snow job. They are preparing themselves to be engineers and scientists to build and maintain the quantum computing systems and robots that will handle this back-breaking work in the future. That sounds like working smart and not hard…and is far from lazy or entitled in my book. Stop clocking these kids so hard and let them be.

You are an f'ing drama queen. Your kids aren't going to have cardiac arrest shoveling snow. I don't expect them to shovel anyone else's but stop being ridiculous. Your whole working smart not hard is arrogant bs espoused by the latest waves of immigrants from se asia. You think you're above hard work actually and are born to oversee the rest of us who are beneath you. Those of us who work with you know better.

heeheehee…somebody is mad…and racist…and ignorant….hmmm and what else? And probably in a lot of pain from all that ice you had to tackle. Read a couple books and call me in the morning! 😝

[Anonymous]

I never make my kids shovel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

Hell, I'd shovel for $40/hr if I know the people have the money. I already shoveled for our two elderly neighbors and I'd never expect to be paid for it. Your kids can't be bothered even if there is money involved. Why? You've raised them that way.

My mom volunteers at the senior center and there are plenty of elderly who don't have enough to pay their bills even though they have a paid off home. Their SS check doesn't stretch as far as it used to. They need help paying their ridiculous electricity bills. One women lives in a one bedroom condo and her bill was over $600 last month. If I didn't supplement my mom's SS check, she'd need help too. Not every Baby Boomer is swimming in cash. You can't pay your bills with a paid off home.

Well, as I said, if your mom doesn't have money to pay her bills, it's your job to supplement and pay for snow removal. It doesn't become some random teen's problem. The teens don't have a SS check or any permanent income, so it's the wrong age group to stiff. So it's not only your mom who is stiffing teens, it's you too! If you want to do snow removal yourself for free, go for it, but don't expect others to do free labor for you! Your family's inability to plan for retirement and manage finances is not somebody else's problem.

+1 many elderly people downsize and moved to a home with much less maintenance which is often safer and more efficient for the person. It is not the job of DMV area teens to work for free to keep someone in their million dollar home.

Some of us cannot downsize as we have very small houses that aren't a million dollars. Its about being a good person and good neighbor.

Of course people could always downsize to an apartment. A single family home with land that requires shoveling in an expensive area like DC is far more expensive than much of the affordable apartment housing designated for seniors


But you should look in the mirror at what you see before saying that parents who have kids who shovel for money have parents who are not good people and not good neighbors. Unless your neighbor’s home is visibly crumbling and the person looks impoverished (in which case they would need help far beyond shoveling), it seems bizarre to make the assumption that the elderly aren’t willing to pay for very difficult labor of shoveling on these frigid days.