what is wrong with modern kids and no motivation to shovel?

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

You realize how little as is for some and how high food, prescriptions and utilities are? My teens not greedy. They can do it for others to be a good person. They aren’t materialistic. You know the teen in basic clothing and low priced sneakers. The one you make fun of.

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The people expecting free help for this snow are greedy. Our teenage neighbor offered to help us for free, and we paid him, because it was a lot of work. It took him about 6 hours between the driveway, the side walk and the pathway to the front door.

If it were a 1 hour job, we'd accept free help. Asking a teenager to "help" you for 6 hours is being greedy.

+1. My teen broke our best shovel on the ice and passed out each day on our couch at 5 pm from the exhaustion of shoveling days. Our neighbors would never take advantage of him by asking him to work for free.

No one is asking, the good kids just do it.

Do you get paid for your work in the office or whatever you do? Yes? Are you selfish and bad? See how that sounds. Demanding free labor and making yourself some kind of victim over it, calling names, is completely ridiculous. You're not entitled to anyone's free labor. Especially from someone who is underaged, a child. Nobody is BAD, because they don't clean your sidewalk. Landscaping companies, as someone mentioned above, have contracts to deal with snow. Just like you pay for your summer grass cutting. Do you feel others should cut your grass for free? What else should they do for you for free? Not sure how someone gets so entitled that they call complete strangers bad and selfish, when they're not provided free labor! How ridiculous! I hope your actual neighbors find out what kind of person you really are (entitled and manipulative, as nobody normal would use the words you do) and will never help you with anything! I'm sure you gossip behind their backs.

I don’t have income but spend many hours volunteering for our school. We don’t pay anyone to do anything…you may. What is wrong with you.

Maybe the fact that you don’t have income and don’t pay anyone to do anything is why your values and words are so messed up.

You may exist on family money or government assistance but the rest of us have to work for a living and understand we need to pay teenagers to shovel snow.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

You realize how little as is for some and how high food, prescriptions and utilities are? My teens not greedy. They can do it for others to be a good person. They aren’t materialistic. You know the teen in basic clothing and low priced sneakers. The one you make fun of.

DP.

The people expecting free help for this snow are greedy. Our teenage neighbor offered to help us for free, and we paid him, because it was a lot of work. It took him about 6 hours between the driveway, the side walk and the pathway to the front door.

If it were a 1 hour job, we'd accept free help. Asking a teenager to "help" you for 6 hours is being greedy.

+1. My teen broke our best shovel on the ice and passed out each day on our couch at 5 pm from the exhaustion of shoveling days. Our neighbors would never take advantage of him by asking him to work for free.

No one is asking, the good kids just do it.

Do you get paid for your work in the office or whatever you do? Yes? Are you selfish and bad? See how that sounds. Demanding free labor and making yourself some kind of victim over it, calling names, is completely ridiculous. You're not entitled to anyone's free labor. Especially from someone who is underaged, a child. Nobody is BAD, because they don't clean your sidewalk. Landscaping companies, as someone mentioned above, have contracts to deal with snow. Just like you pay for your summer grass cutting. Do you feel others should cut your grass for free? What else should they do for you for free? Not sure how someone gets so entitled that they call complete strangers bad and selfish, when they're not provided free labor! How ridiculous! I hope your actual neighbors find out what kind of person you really are (entitled and manipulative, as nobody normal would use the words you do) and will never help you with anything! I'm sure you gossip behind their backs.

I don’t have income but spend many hours volunteering for our school. We don’t pay anyone to do anything…you may. What is wrong with you.

What does we don’t pay anyone to do anything even mean? You grow all your own food?

You have school aged kids and no income coming in? How do you feed them?

+1. Someone with no income who doesn’t want to pay “anyone to do anything” shouldn’t be judging those who work for pay.

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The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

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Anonymous wrote:The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

That someone would characterize kids taking money to shovel as “not good kids” is very disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:My 12 yo learned last year that people will pay to have their driveways done. Between Monday and a Tuesday he and a friend made over $150 each and still got some sledding in. My older child chose to sled with friends 4-5 hours a day everyday this week and I was fine with that too. As long as they aren’t sitting around 12 hours a day I’m happy. They both dog sit, babysit etc. I find if we don’t give them money for everything all the time they naturally decide to find ways to earn it.

This is the key. I wouldn't want to shovel either if my parents gave me money for what I wanted. The wealthiest people I know still make their kids work in the summers when they are teens and in college. They don't give allowances.

What do you think we give our kids that’s so excessive? Mine works summers and we put that money away. I don’t allow them to take money from our older and disabled neighbors as irs the right thing to do and one day it will be me. My kids aren’t wearing designer clothing or shoes, going out to eat constantly, shopping, etc. they are too busy with school and activities. They do have one hobby we will buy gear for. So, yes, the few times a month they eat our with friend or their team we will pay. Why wouldn’t we? Those kids you know are out all the time, want hair, nails, designer clothing, some of our kids are not.

That seems excessive to me but I just grew up a different way I guess. I don’t have the money to pay for my kid’s sport and then give them money on top of it (gear, tournaments, etc) to then go out multiple times each month with friends. You may think that’s normal because of where you live and the who your kids are friends with. The rest of us don’t have the money for that. If my kid wants money to do stuff with his friends, he pays with it from the money he earns from his job. That’s what it’s for.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

You realize how little as is for some and how high food, prescriptions and utilities are? My teens not greedy. They can do it for others to be a good person. They aren’t materialistic. You know the teen in basic clothing and low priced sneakers. The one you make fun of.

DP.

The people expecting free help for this snow are greedy. Our teenage neighbor offered to help us for free, and we paid him, because it was a lot of work. It took him about 6 hours between the driveway, the side walk and the pathway to the front door.

If it were a 1 hour job, we'd accept free help. Asking a teenager to "help" you for 6 hours is being greedy.

+1. My teen broke our best shovel on the ice and passed out each day on our couch at 5 pm from the exhaustion of shoveling days. Our neighbors would never take advantage of him by asking him to work for free.

No one is asking, the good kids just do it.

Do you get paid for your work in the office or whatever you do? Yes? Are you selfish and bad? See how that sounds. Demanding free labor and making yourself some kind of victim over it, calling names, is completely ridiculous. You're not entitled to anyone's free labor. Especially from someone who is underaged, a child. Nobody is BAD, because they don't clean your sidewalk. Landscaping companies, as someone mentioned above, have contracts to deal with snow. Just like you pay for your summer grass cutting. Do you feel others should cut your grass for free? What else should they do for you for free? Not sure how someone gets so entitled that they call complete strangers bad and selfish, when they're not provided free labor! How ridiculous! I hope your actual neighbors find out what kind of person you really are (entitled and manipulative, as nobody normal would use the words you do) and will never help you with anything! I'm sure you gossip behind their backs.

I don’t have income but spend many hours volunteering for our school. We don’t pay anyone to do anything…you may. What is wrong with you.

Staying home with school age kids is the most extravagant expense. If I could stay home and landscape, clean, and cook in my own home that would be far preferable than the working parent shuffle.

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Anonymous wrote:The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

That someone would characterize kids taking money to shovel as “not good kids” is very disturbing.

It’s really not disturbing at all. And my kids made money shoveling.

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Anonymous wrote:The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

That someone would characterize kids taking money to shovel as “not good kids” is very disturbing.

It’s really not disturbing at all. And my kids made money shoveling.

So your own kids aren’t “good” because they work for pay? I guess they’re going to need to set aside shoveling money for therapy due to your parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

That someone would characterize kids taking money to shovel as “not good kids” is very disturbing.

It’s really not disturbing at all. And my kids made money shoveling.

So your own kids aren’t “good” because they work for pay? I guess they’re going to need to set aside shoveling money for therapy due to your parenting.

If this is how wound up you get by misquoting an internet rando, therapy is definitely on order for someone here. 😂

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Anonymous wrote:The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

That someone would characterize kids taking money to shovel as “not good kids” is very disturbing.

It’s really not disturbing at all. And my kids made money shoveling.

So your own kids aren’t “good” because they work for pay? I guess they’re going to need to set aside shoveling money for therapy due to your parenting.

If this is how wound up you get by misquoting an internet rando, therapy is definitely on order for someone here. 😂

No one is wound up. Just pitying teens who have parents around them who think that working for pay is somehow shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some more statistics for you.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/retirement-baby-boomers-peak-65-financial-crisis/

Well, then instead of expecting charity from strangers, tell your mom sell her house and move in with you. Solves her financial issues and snow shoveling problems as well. Or that doesn't suit you, does it? The teens don't have paid off houses or any houses at all.

My mother doesn’t expect charity and she won’t sell her house. She will give it to me. All $215k of it. Damn those boomers for sitting in their valuable real estate!

So if she doesn't sell her house and you get it, you should pay the $40/h for snow shoveling or whatever the going rate is in your area. $215K is certainly more than a few hundred an average teenager has. Otherwise what's your problem here? Is it you who expects charity? The whole thread is about why teens don't do free/cheap work for someone who sits in their paid off house and is "poor". Maybe your mom should give her house to the teenagers on her street and they'd be willing to shovel snow then?

You realize how little as is for some and how high food, prescriptions and utilities are? My teens not greedy. They can do it for others to be a good person. They aren’t materialistic. You know the teen in basic clothing and low priced sneakers. The one you make fun of.

DP.

The people expecting free help for this snow are greedy. Our teenage neighbor offered to help us for free, and we paid him, because it was a lot of work. It took him about 6 hours between the driveway, the side walk and the pathway to the front door.

If it were a 1 hour job, we'd accept free help. Asking a teenager to "help" you for 6 hours is being greedy.

+1. My teen broke our best shovel on the ice and passed out each day on our couch at 5 pm from the exhaustion of shoveling days. Our neighbors would never take advantage of him by asking him to work for free.

No one is asking, the good kids just do it.

Do you get paid for your work in the office or whatever you do? Yes? Are you selfish and bad? See how that sounds. Demanding free labor and making yourself some kind of victim over it, calling names, is completely ridiculous. You're not entitled to anyone's free labor. Especially from someone who is underaged, a child. Nobody is BAD, because they don't clean your sidewalk. Landscaping companies, as someone mentioned above, have contracts to deal with snow. Just like you pay for your summer grass cutting. Do you feel others should cut your grass for free? What else should they do for you for free? Not sure how someone gets so entitled that they call complete strangers bad and selfish, when they're not provided free labor! How ridiculous! I hope your actual neighbors find out what kind of person you really are (entitled and manipulative, as nobody normal would use the words you do) and will never help you with anything! I'm sure you gossip behind their backs.

I don’t have income but spend many hours volunteering for our school. We don’t pay anyone to do anything…you may. What is wrong with you.

Staying home with school age kids is the most extravagant expense. If I could stay home and landscape, clean, and cook in my own home that would be far preferable than the working parent shuffle.

+1. A stay at home parent who is well off enough that they can spend hours volunteering at a school in lieu of earning money shouldn’t be throwing shade at teenagers earning money for backbreaking work. It’s like saying “let them eat cake.”

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As a kid I shoveled snow not concrete. I also didn't shovel when it was slippery out. Plus, I had plenty of backaches because nobody told me how to do it correctly.

You may not see people shoveling also because some people are delusional about pay. It's not the 1980s. I had to explain that to my mother who thought she was offering a good rate to neighborhood kids and now they won't even give her the time of day. The kids go where they can make bank to shovel, especially with ice.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids do the elderly neighbors for free.

But charge the sht out of the capable but lazy neighbors.

If you’re living somewhere that you can see your elderly neighbor is impoverished, sure go ahead and do it for free-but where I live, some of the elderly neighbors are well off and happy to pay and would think it’s bizarre that someone is offering them charity when they don’t need it.

No need to assume either way. Affluent elderly can off to pay. Less affluent elderly can say thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:The degree of hostility in this thread is insane.

That someone would characterize kids taking money to shovel as “not good kids” is very disturbing.

it's called trolling

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It’s very simple. It’s not worth it to them and I’m proud of my kid for doing the equation and taking a hard pass. He does other odd jobs and coaches a sport for which he is paid well. He’s not afraid of physical labor, he just doesn’t want to do it for not very much money. People don’t want to pay what the job is worth so he won’t do it. It’s not that complicated. Just like my college daughter turns down babysitting jobs that pay $15 an hour.