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Gfr doesn't need a "pathway". Pathways are meaningless marketing drivel.

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Anonymous wrote:Gfr doesn't need a "pathway". Pathways are meaningless marketing drivel.

Agreed. But parents eat it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Gfr doesn't need a "pathway". Pathways are meaningless marketing drivel.

Agreed. But parents eat it up.

its totally fine to have your best teams play in RL. Its really just fine. Lots of local neighborhood clubs have that, or even only teams in NCSL or EDP.

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Anonymous wrote:Summary of GD based on PPs (here and GFR thread):

Pros:

1. Tries to play possession / tiki-taka based game and to avoid kick and run.
2. Holds players accountable with immediate in-game feedback.
3. Encourages players to do extra training, is willing to spend extra time with interested players, and rewards players who show that commitment with more playing time.

Cons:
1. Feedback can be harsh, particularly for sensitive players (and parents).
2. Charges for extra sessions (as does every coach in the DMV), which creates at least an appearance of a conflict of interest for playing time decisions.
3. Doesn’t like women (not clear if this applies to moms, players, or both).

I disagree with this. He rage subs players who make a mistake and the in-game feedback consists of either beratement or ignoring the player, while trashing them to the rest of the team, nothing constructive.

So do all his players dislike playing on his teams and leave? Or do some of his players and parents like him, but he’s nevertheless a bad fit for others (perhaps those who are less capable and/or thinner skinned). It’s not like he’s been coaching first teams at a top club where players who are aiming for P4 can feel trapped at a particular club. If he’s truly objectively bad, and not just a bad fit for some, you’d expect to see mass departures of players. Did that happen at GFR?

We'll know how many parents liked him by how many players follow him to VRSC. Playing time will be harder for the bloated rosters if GD is bringing his favorites with him.

Any idea which teams he’ll coach at VRSC? PP said he’s taking 2013s from MJ this spring. Is he also taking MJ’s 2011s? Looks like GD has GFR’s 2011s, wonder if any would follow mid-season.

He has 4 teams now. He must be coaching at least 2 at VRSC.

Maybe he will take some of the GA2 teams?

2013 parents were told GD is taking that team in the spring. MJ’s other team is 2011, but I haven’t heard anything about a near-term change there, and no one knows about next year. But I’m sure VRSC will do whatever it can to pull GFR’s top players starting with ID sessions next month.

GD will lose his mind with that team. They are polar opposite to his style.

How so?

VRSC 2013s are about as opposite of a possession/footwork team as you can get, at least the games I have seen.

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I think because its so much easier for girls to play in college, and because its so much easier for girls to make top teams, it makes girl parents more irrational and unrealistic about their daughter's skill and therefore way more susceptible to basically bribing their coach. Probably a lot more lucrative for him to coach girls with the extra training con job.

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Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

Everyone plays but only 11 can start (shrug)

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

If VRSC can ruin it, they will.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

He will fit in well at VRSC.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

From what I’ve seen having watched my DD play this team in the fall, they are sorely lacking in fundamentals and technical skills. Their approach to the game is the epitome of big fast strong kick and run, and the parents love it. GA quality is so poor that they still win their games, but lack of skill is why their GD is so much lower than other teams in the south mid Atlantic. The coach can change the style of play, but I doubt they can execute any other style.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

How is this different than trying out and playing for your fall / spring coach in the preceding summer in Super Y? Players do it to get better and so their coach gets to know them better, with a view to getting a leg up for playing time in the fall. Parents pay the club for the privilege, and the club pays the coach to coach the team. Lots of local coaches similarly offer clinics and camps during summer and school breaks where there is always a contingent of the coaches club players present. Does sending the money through the club so they can take a cut actually launder it for you? Sounds like GD’s extra sessions were well known by players, parents, and club, and have been for years, so this seems like much adu about nothing, except that’s what this board exists for.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

From what I’ve seen having watched my DD play this team in the fall, they are sorely lacking in fundamentals and technical skills. Their approach to the game is the epitome of big fast strong kick and run, and the parents love it. GA quality is so poor that they still win their games, but lack of skill is why their GD is so much lower than other teams in the south mid Atlantic. The coach can change the style of play, but I doubt they can execute any other style.

There are a few girls with good fundamentals on the team, you just don’t see them with all the goalie punts and defender long balls to the strikers.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

How is this different than trying out and playing for your fall / spring coach in the preceding summer in Super Y? Players do it to get better and so their coach gets to know them better, with a view to getting a leg up for playing time in the fall. Parents pay the club for the privilege, and the club pays the coach to coach the team. Lots of local coaches similarly offer clinics and camps during summer and school breaks where there is always a contingent of the coaches club players present. Does sending the money through the club so they can take a cut actually launder it for you? Sounds like GD’s extra sessions were well known by players, parents, and club, and have been for years, so this seems like much adu about nothing, except that’s what this board exists for.

Very well said. His side business of training has been in existence for a long time. The club(s) always knew and parents and players also knew. It only became an issue when GFR and the board was being put on notice and things took a turn. GFR board lashed out at coaches not only GD who were training and said they needed to take a cut.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

How is this different than trying out and playing for your fall / spring coach in the preceding summer in Super Y? Players do it to get better and so their coach gets to know them better, with a view to getting a leg up for playing time in the fall. Parents pay the club for the privilege, and the club pays the coach to coach the team. Lots of local coaches similarly offer clinics and camps during summer and school breaks where there is always a contingent of the coaches club players present. Does sending the money through the club so they can take a cut actually launder it for you? Sounds like GD’s extra sessions were well known by players, parents, and club, and have been for years, so this seems like much adu about nothing, except that’s what this board exists for.

Very well said. His side business of training has been in existence for a long time. The club(s) always knew and parents and players also knew. It only became an issue when GFR and the board was being put on notice and things took a turn. GFR board lashed out at coaches not only GD who were training and said they needed to take a cut.

My kids have done a fair amount of private and group training over the years and it always annoyed me when the club took a cut. I sent my kids to the coach not the club, and the club added absolutely no value, but they took money out of the coach’s pockets and off his or her family’s table. In my view, it’s the clubs who are the sleazy greedy people when they force individual coaches to give them a share of what parents want to pay them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

How is this different than trying out and playing for your fall / spring coach in the preceding summer in Super Y? Players do it to get better and so their coach gets to know them better, with a view to getting a leg up for playing time in the fall. Parents pay the club for the privilege, and the club pays the coach to coach the team. Lots of local coaches similarly offer clinics and camps during summer and school breaks where there is always a contingent of the coaches club players present. Does sending the money through the club so they can take a cut actually launder it for you? Sounds like GD’s extra sessions were well known by players, parents, and club, and have been for years, so this seems like much adu about nothing, except that’s what this board exists for.

Very well said. His side business of training has been in existence for a long time. The club(s) always knew and parents and players also knew. It only became an issue when GFR and the board was being put on notice and things took a turn. GFR board lashed out at coaches not only GD who were training and said they needed to take a cut.

Isn’t he the guy whose car literally is a full blown add for his “Brazilian Way” private soccer training? Based on what I know about some other coaches with private and group training businesses, I bet he makes more off that than he does off his club. He’s obviously not going to give it up, and frankly the entire area is better off having access to a coach who can actually teach fundamental soccer skills. I realize that it’s easier just to complain about your kid not getting enough playing time and to blame someone else for their misfortune than to help them develop the necessary skills.