Be mindful of what you post — Employer could be watching

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

While the website was up people were going through it and most were just posting Kirk’s own words.

There are a lot of articles about people getting fired that don’t even detail what the post was that got them there. It’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

Publicly celebrating the murder of your political enemies is not equal to someone signing along to a rap song in 2011. I know that is difficult to grasp.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

While the website was up people were going through it and most were just posting Kirk’s own words.

There are a lot of articles about people getting fired that don’t even detail what the post was that got them there. It’s ridiculous.

It’s just going to turns seats blue, so it could be a long term benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

Oh, this is not cancel culture. It is accountability culture. Feel free to say what you want. But, know that you WILL be held accountable for your words.
If what you say reflects poorly on your employer, we will report it.
If what you say reflects a lack of judgment, we will report it.
If you say is an incitement for others to do harm, we will report it.

Go ahead and post whatever the hell you want to post. Speak freely. But know that we are judging you by your words.

Oh sit down. You don't ever police your own who say FAR WORSE every single day. If you are so impassioned, start with your POTUS. You won't.

Your heads are so far up your hypocritical butts, no one can take you seriously. You have no credibility.

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Wow! Such a weird flex to turn this guy into some kind of paragon of virtue.

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Maybe we should start notifying all employers, colleges, churches, etc. about people who pose with guns on social media. How many mass killers in the last ten years have taken pictures of themselves with their weapons? Many, if not most.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

Oh, this is not cancel culture. It is accountability culture. Feel free to say what you want. But, know that you WILL be held accountable for your words.
If what you say reflects poorly on your employer, we will report it.
If what you say reflects a lack of judgment, we will report it.
If you say is an incitement for others to do harm, we will report it.

Go ahead and post whatever the hell you want to post. Speak freely. But know that we are judging you by your words.

Where is as the accountability for J6? Charlie Kirk and Trump used lies and inflammatory language to stir up an insurrection. And now the prosecutors who put the bad guys away are getting fired and Ashli Babbit is being honored. They literally stormed the Capitol and the right never called it out, in fact they celebrated it.

You can’t celebrate domestic terrorism and vote for someone who pardons them and then turn around and pretend rounding up a list of people who say things you don’t like on the internet is about “accountability.”

It is about silencing voices you disagree with. Only the white Christian nationalist view point is acceptable now. Also why are there no lists of people who laughed about the Pelosis’ being injured? The people who cheered Biden’s cancer diagnosis?

If we’re going to have anonymous internet hall monitors then it should go both ways.

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I’d be careful posting anything lionizing Charlie Kirk. Your employer might decide (a) you’re an idiot, and too stupid to keep on board; or (2) someone who agreed with him, which makes you a legal liability if you supervise minorities or women. Remember, free speech doesn’t mean free from consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.

All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.

So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.

Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.

Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.

You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.

No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.

I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.

Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.

Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.

This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk

1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem

I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.

When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.

Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.

If there are any private businesses that fire people please post here because I want to boycott them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.

All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.

So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.

Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.

Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.

You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.

No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.

I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.

Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.

Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.

This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk

1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem

I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.

When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.

Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.

If there are any private businesses that fire people please post here because I want to boycott them.

Office Depot is one. They fired employees who refused to print a banner for a vigil for Charlie Kirk even though it didn't violate any of their terms. The employees fired said the banner was "propaganda." Good riddance to them.

I suspect any business who fired employees had good reason to do so. So, while you may boycott them, others will support them for taking action.

The appalling thing I have seen are nurses and doctors who have posted that he deserved to be killed. WTH? This is atrocious. Who would want to rely on a doctor for healthcare when that doctor has made such an outrageous comment?
And, teachers and professors have been some of the most worst posters of hate. I cannot imagine any of these people teaching my kids.

Here is one doctor's post. These posts are not just "repeating what Kirk has said." These are really incendiary comments.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d be careful posting anything lionizing Charlie Kirk. Your employer might decide (a) you’re an idiot, and too stupid to keep on board; or (2) someone who agreed with him, which makes you a legal liability if you supervise minorities or women. Remember, free speech doesn’t mean free from consequences.

I'd be careful posting anything about politics or religion or other topics you would not discuss IN THE OFFICE with your colleagues. Duh. There is a reason it's advised to keep any personal and controversial topics outside of the office. Why would you post online under your own name? I never understood this. I only have Linked In and FB accounts under my name and with my photos and I would NEVER in million years post any personal beliefs that could be remotely controversial or engage in any political conversations. People posting videos of their face on social media are fools

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Attiah's reference to Kirk's statement is a paraphrase that omits key context, effectively presenting it as a direct claim he made about Black women's intelligence, when Kirk was instead critiquing what he saw as hypocritical standards in political rhetoric.

The full quote comes from a July 13, 2023, episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, where Kirk was discussing Democratic criticisms of white judicial nominees (like those under Trump) as "affirmative action" selections lacking merit. He argued this was acceptable when aimed at whites but would be deemed racist if reversed. Specifically, he said: "If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would be called every name in the book... You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You have to go steal a white person's brain." Here, the "brain processing power" line is Kirk mocking or illustrating the implication of the "affirmative action" label when applied to Black women, not a standalone assertion of his own view on their intelligence. He was highlighting what he viewed as a double standard, not endorsing the racist trope outright.

Attiah's Bluesky post summarized it as Kirk claiming "Black women such as Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and former Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee did not have the 'brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.'" This strips away the hypothetical framing, making it sound like a direct quote from Kirk.

In her Substack response after the firing, Attiah acknowledged this as "a misquote, one that a journalist should have fact-checked more rigorously," but defended it as capturing the "essence" of his rhetoric on racial hierarchies. Critics called it a deliberate distortion to inflame racial tensions post-assassination.