Be mindful of what you post — Employer could be watching

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.

All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.

So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.

Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.

Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.

You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.

No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.

I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.

Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.

Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.

This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk

1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem

I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.

When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.

Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.

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His message must be very fragile if people can’t even see his words.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.

All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.

So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.

Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.

Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.

You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.

No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.

I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.

Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.

Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.

This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk

1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem

I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.

When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.

Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.

Then carry on as you wish.

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I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

Karen Attiah (case detailed above, and online) was fired by the Washington Post after far more measured words than even "karma."

[Anonymous]

So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

They just expressed disappointment that he’s still alive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

Karen Attiah (case detailed above, and online) was fired by the Washington Post after far more measured words than even "karma."

She made up a quote that Charlie Kirk said.
She is in the news business. If she cannot get her information correct, she should not be writing for the WaPo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

Karen Attiah (case detailed above, and online) was fired by the Washington Post after far more measured words than even "karma."

Don’t think I’ve ever seen “measured” used to describe Attiah. She’s generally quite the opposite.

That said, the Post has social media guidelines. Her posts (arguably) violated them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

And so much for the left being willing to enforce propriety through public shaming.

Funny how both sides reveal their hypocrisy when the shoe is on the other foot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

Oh, this is not cancel culture. It is accountability culture. Feel free to say what you want. But, know that you WILL be held accountable for your words.
If what you say reflects poorly on your employer, we will report it.
If what you say reflects a lack of judgment, we will report it.
If you say is an incitement for others to do harm, we will report it.

Go ahead and post whatever the hell you want to post. Speak freely. But know that we are judging you by your words.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

Oh, this is not cancel culture. It is accountability culture. Feel free to say what you want. But, know that you WILL be held accountable for your words.
If what you say reflects poorly on your employer, we will report it.
If what you say reflects a lack of judgment, we will report it.
If you say is an incitement for others to do harm, we will report it.

Go ahead and post whatever the hell you want to post. Speak freely. But know that we are judging you by your words.

DP. Independent.

Don’t be silly. If any of what you wrote were true, you’d never have elected Trump.

Like the D’s, you just like punishing people who say things you don’t like.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what companies fired workers over free speech.
DJT himself fomented and promoted violence on Jan 6, resulting in the death and injury our dedicated police.
Bit strange that people are fired simply for saying “karma” after this guy is dead.

That's not all they said, and you know it.

Karen Attiah (case detailed above, and online) was fired by the Washington Post after far more measured words than even "karma."

She made up a quote that Charlie Kirk said.
She is in the news business. If she cannot get her information correct, she should not be writing for the WaPo.

Just straight op lying, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.

All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.

So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.

Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.

Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.

You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.

No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.

I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.

Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.

Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.

This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk

1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem

I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.

When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.

Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.

Then carry on as you wish.

I don’t have to carry on with anything. The truth is out there for anyone willing to look.