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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



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Yeah. He deserved to be fired.


The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk


1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem


I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.


When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.


Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.


If there are any private businesses that fire people please post here because I want to boycott them.


Office Depot is one. They fired employees who refused to print a banner for a vigil for Charlie Kirk even though it didn't violate any of their terms. The employees fired said the banner was "propaganda." Good riddance to them.

I suspect any business who fired employees had good reason to do so. So, while you may boycott them, others will support them for taking action.

The appalling thing I have seen are nurses and doctors who have posted that he deserved to be killed. WTH? This is atrocious. Who would want to rely on a doctor for healthcare when that doctor has made such an outrageous comment?
And, teachers and professors have been some of the most worst posters of hate. I cannot imagine any of these people teaching my kids.

Here is one doctor's post. These posts are not just "repeating what Kirk has said." These are really incendiary comments.



Kirk didn't care about people dying if it preserved 2a. That is a fact. He considered people, including young children, who have been murdered in their schools, in theaters, at shopping malls, at concerts, everywhere, to be collateral damage of gun ownership. It was apparently fine with him as long as it was someone else's six year-old who was gunned down. I don't care that Kirk died. He died from a combo of mental illness and gun violence like thousands of others. IMO, anyone who doesn't support sensible gun control after babies were murdered in their classrooms at Sandy Hook does not have a soul. Maybe this doctor has treated gunshot victims over the years. Maybe his family has been touched by gun violence. He is allowed to have an opinion. The irony here is that the authoritarian government that the gun nuts have always feared is here but it's not the liberals. It's Trump. Trump is taking away rights, he will destroy the economy, he will sell off our public lands, he will gut health care and it will not end until he is King and has destroyed America.
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Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”


No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?


Oh, yes they have!



https://www.wlbt.com/2025/09/15/college-student-expelled-after-alleged-video-her-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death-went-viral/?outputType=amp


She was celebrating his death. Just watch the video on campus! Expelled. She deserved it. Jair o e of many examples of people celebrating his murder.


So she deserved to have her first amendment rights violated by her state government? Just trying to figure out what “freedom” people have against a tyrannical government in MAGA world. Kirk can get professors targeted by death threats, but heaven forbid you do anything other than wear a hair shirt at his death.

Yall are sick in the head.


If you hit someone, in the presence of police no less, expect to have consequences.

Unless of course you believe hitting and assaulting someone is covered by the 1A, which I’m realizing many crazy liberals and progressives seem to think is the case.
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Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”


No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?


Plenty of people have said he deserved to die for his opinions. Far more than I believed to be true. It’s gross and I am glad they are being tracked and reported to their employers and schools.
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Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”


No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?


Plenty of people have said he deserved to die for his opinions. Far more than I believed to be true. It’s gross and I am glad they are being tracked and reported to their employers and schools.


I’d fire you on the spot if I found out you were participating in that Nazi un-American crap.

Americans always ask themselves what they would have done in Nazi Germany. Now we know. They would have behaved like good little Germans.
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We lived through that with Covid snitching. Neighbors reporting on neighbors if they dared go outside or gather, let alone send their children to the playground.

Now it’s our turn.


Not mourning a fascist versus trying to prevent the spread of a deadly disease overwhelming hospitals.

Totally the same thing. Totally the same.

Do you all even listen to yourselves?



Yes. Tell us how an airborne disease will be stopped by keeping people inside. All the people, every single one. Did you think people were never going to go outside ever again? Not for food, or anything? Tell us how you thought it would end in your scenario.

You loved the control it gave you. A sense of hope by forcing people to do something worthless.
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Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”


No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?


Oh, yes they have!



https://www.wlbt.com/2025/09/15/college-student-expelled-after-alleged-video-her-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death-went-viral/?outputType=amp


She was celebrating his death. Just watch the video on campus! Expelled. She deserved it. Jair o e of many examples of people celebrating his murder.


So she deserved to have her first amendment rights violated by her state government? Just trying to figure out what “freedom” people have against a tyrannical government in MAGA world. Kirk can get professors targeted by death threats, but heaven forbid you do anything other than wear a hair shirt at his death.

Yall are sick in the head.


If you hit someone, in the presence of police no less, expect to have consequences.

Unless of course you believe hitting and assaulting someone is covered by the 1A, which I’m realizing many crazy liberals and progressives seem to think is the case.


Going to need more than the testimony of a lying pig. Anyone have video they want to share?
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We lived through that with Covid snitching. Neighbors reporting on neighbors if they dared go outside or gather, let alone send their children to the playground.

Now it’s our turn.


Not mourning a fascist versus trying to prevent the spread of a deadly disease overwhelming hospitals.

Totally the same thing. Totally the same.

Do you all even listen to yourselves?



Yes. Tell us how an airborne disease will be stopped by keeping people inside. All the people, every single one. Did you think people were never going to go outside ever again? Not for food, or anything? Tell us how you thought it would end in your scenario.

You loved the control it gave you. A sense of hope by forcing people to do something worthless.


We tried to keep people from cramming 200 people into a small space to prevent superspreader events, which seemed to keep happening. Even God tried to stop you by letting getting you sick right in his house while you sang his praises, but you wanted the freedom to die.

Quarantine is so old the name actually comes from the Latin. When done right it stops disease on its tracks. But we can never count on Americans to do anything that isn’t selfish.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.


The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk


1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem


I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.


When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.


Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.


If there are any private businesses that fire people please post here because I want to boycott them.


Office Depot is one. They fired employees who refused to print a banner for a vigil for Charlie Kirk even though it didn't violate any of their terms. The employees fired said the banner was "propaganda." Good riddance to them.

I suspect any business who fired employees had good reason to do so. So, while you may boycott them, others will support them for taking action.

The appalling thing I have seen are nurses and doctors who have posted that he deserved to be killed. WTH? This is atrocious. Who would want to rely on a doctor for healthcare when that doctor has made such an outrageous comment?
And, teachers and professors have been some of the most worst posters of hate. I cannot imagine any of these people teaching my kids.

Here is one doctor's post. These posts are not just "repeating what Kirk has said." These are really incendiary comments.



Kirk didn't care about people dying if it preserved 2a. That is a fact. He considered people, including young children, who have been murdered in their schools, in theaters, at shopping malls, at concerts, everywhere, to be collateral damage of gun ownership. It was apparently fine with him as long as it was someone else's six year-old who was gunned down. I don't care that Kirk died. He died from a combo of mental illness and gun violence like thousands of others. IMO, anyone who doesn't support sensible gun control after babies were murdered in their classrooms at Sandy Hook does not have a soul. Maybe this doctor has treated gunshot victims over the years. Maybe his family has been touched by gun violence. He is allowed to have an opinion. The irony here is that the authoritarian government that the gun nuts have always feared is here but it's not the liberals. It's Trump. Trump is taking away rights, he will destroy the economy, he will sell off our public lands, he will gut health care and it will not end until he is King and has destroyed America.


It's not the liberals? No liberals acted like gun nuts and none of them was involved in any shooting over the past few years?
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We lived through that with Covid snitching. Neighbors reporting on neighbors if they dared go outside or gather, let alone send their children to the playground.

Now it’s our turn.


Not mourning a fascist versus trying to prevent the spread of a deadly disease overwhelming hospitals.

Totally the same thing. Totally the same.

Do you all even listen to yourselves?



Yes. Tell us how an airborne disease will be stopped by keeping people inside. All the people, every single one. Did you think people were never going to go outside ever again? Not for food, or anything? Tell us how you thought it would end in your scenario.

You loved the control it gave you. A sense of hope by forcing people to do something worthless.


We tried to keep people from cramming 200 people into a small space to prevent superspreader events, which seemed to keep happening. Even God tried to stop you by letting getting you sick right in his house while you sang his praises, but you wanted the freedom to die.

Quarantine is so old the name actually comes from the Latin. When done right it stops disease on its tracks. But we can never count on Americans to do anything that isn’t selfish.


Glad you brought up quarantining. Up until Covid, for millennia, we only quarantined the sick. Now we’re forcing quarantining of the healthy?

Funny how you bring up churches, but completely ignoring the million and millions of protesters that somehow were exempt from Covid restrictions.

So much science. Anyway, our memories are long and this is about misbehavior that we are now gleefully reporting for those who violate our rules.
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The left believes it’s simultaneously okay to eliminate someone over speech they don’t like, but not okay to fire them over speech we don’t like.
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Anonymous wrote:The left believes it’s simultaneously okay to eliminate someone over speech they don’t like, but not okay to fire them over speech we don’t like.


I don't know if y'all are embarrassed that no one heard of or cares about Kirk but being indifferent doesn't mean people like an assassination. We are free to not care about someone famous for debating Gen X.
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Its Cancel Culture, and this time the shoe is on the other foot.
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Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”


No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?


Plenty of people have said he deserved to die for his opinions. Far more than I believed to be true. It’s gross and I am glad they are being tracked and reported to their employers and schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”


No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?


Plenty of people have said he deserved to die for his opinions. Far more than I believed to be true. It’s gross and I am glad they are being tracked and reported to their employers and schools.


I’d fire you on the spot if I found out you were participating in that Nazi un-American crap.

Americans always ask themselves what they would have done in Nazi Germany. Now we know. They would have behaved like good little Germans.


I'm guessing you don't work in a public school system or have a govt job.
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We lived through that with Covid snitching. Neighbors reporting on neighbors if they dared go outside or gather, let alone send their children to the playground.

Now it’s our turn.


Not mourning a fascist versus trying to prevent the spread of a deadly disease overwhelming hospitals.

Totally the same thing. Totally the same.

Do you all even listen to yourselves?



Yes. Tell us how an airborne disease will be stopped by keeping people inside. All the people, every single one. Did you think people were never going to go outside ever again? Not for food, or anything? Tell us how you thought it would end in your scenario.

You loved the control it gave you. A sense of hope by forcing people to do something worthless.


We tried to keep people from cramming 200 people into a small space to prevent superspreader events, which seemed to keep happening. Even God tried to stop you by letting getting you sick right in his house while you sang his praises, but you wanted the freedom to die.

Quarantine is so old the name actually comes from the Latin. When done right it stops disease on its tracks. But we can never count on Americans to do anything that isn’t selfish.


Glad you brought up quarantining. Up until Covid, for millennia, we only quarantined the sick. Now we’re forcing quarantining of the healthy?

Funny how you bring up churches, but completely ignoring the million and millions of protesters that somehow were exempt from Covid restrictions.

So much science. Anyway, our memories are long and this is about misbehavior that we are now gleefully reporting for those who violate our rules.


WTF? Nobody ever said protesters were "exempt" from ANYTHING - show me an ordinance or other document proclaiming this.

Also, they were OUTSIDE ffs. Not indoors, elbow to elbow breathing the same stale stagnant air that the person next to them just breathed out.
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