Be mindful of what you post — Employer could be watching

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d be careful posting anything lionizing Charlie Kirk. Your employer might decide (a) you’re an idiot, and too stupid to keep on board; or (2) someone who agreed with him, which makes you a legal liability if you supervise minorities or women. Remember, free speech doesn’t mean free from consequences.

I'd be careful posting anything about politics or religion or other topics you would not discuss IN THE OFFICE with your colleagues. Duh. There is a reason it's advised to keep any personal and controversial topics outside of the office. Why would you post online under your own name? I never understood this. I only have Linked In and FB accounts under my name and with my photos and I would NEVER in million years post any personal beliefs that could be remotely controversial or engage in any political conversations. People posting videos of their face on social media are fools

I have to add that this advice is OLD, decades old. It's always been an unwritten rule that some conversations are out of bounds in the business place and in the office unless you are working at a media related company, a journalist, politically affiliated, etc. Unless IT'S YOUR JOB to engage in these conversations with the public and each other and it's the source of your livelihood, and your "brand" it's foolish. You gain nothing out of it. Unlike protesting on the streets you are leaving your face and your identity footprint all over the internet for anyone to see, including people who have or may have power over your livelihood, your destiny, etc. People erroneously thought that TikTok and other platforms were free speech protesting grounds. Maybe they do serve this role in some way, but they also harvest your information and store it, and it can be used against you at any time even years later. It's just common sense. Teach this to your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much for the Right being pro-free speech and anti-cancel culture.

Publicly celebrating the murder of your political enemies is not equal to someone signing along to a rap song in 2011. I know that is difficult to grasp.

The Klan can march through the streets of my city allowing that they have a permit.

Yes, that is free speech. So is public celebration of murder of political enemies. Lord knows Trump would do it.

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The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should start notifying all employers, colleges, churches, etc. about people who pose with guns on social media. How many mass killers in the last ten years have taken pictures of themselves with their weapons? Many, if not most.

Brilliant.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.

All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.

So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.

Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.

Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.

You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.

No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.

I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.

Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.

Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.

This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk

1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem

I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.

When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.

Yes, but it doesn’t make the firings right, nor will it protect businesses that fire people illegally.

It doesn't, but that's what the lawyers are for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”

No one is saying he deserved to die for his opinions. But he did just happen to die while scapegoating a marginalized population in an attempt to explain away our nation’s very real problem with gun violence. According to Charlie, deaths like his are just the price we have to pay for a Second Amendment. Or maybe he was just referring to the death of other people’s 6-year old kids as the price we need to pay?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d be careful posting anything lionizing Charlie Kirk. Your employer might decide (a) you’re an idiot, and too stupid to keep on board; or (2) someone who agreed with him, which makes you a legal liability if you supervise minorities or women. Remember, free speech doesn’t mean free from consequences.

I'd be careful posting anything about politics or religion or other topics you would not discuss IN THE OFFICE with your colleagues. Duh. There is a reason it's advised to keep any personal and controversial topics outside of the office. Why would you post online under your own name? I never understood this. I only have Linked In and FB accounts under my name and with my photos and I would NEVER in million years post any personal beliefs that could be remotely controversial or engage in any political conversations. People posting videos of their face on social media are fools

I have to add that this advice is OLD, decades old. It's always been an unwritten rule that some conversations are out of bounds in the business place and in the office unless you are working at a media related company, a journalist, politically affiliated, etc. Unless IT'S YOUR JOB to engage in these conversations with the public and each other and it's the source of your livelihood, and your "brand" it's foolish. You gain nothing out of it. Unlike protesting on the streets you are leaving your face and your identity footprint all over the internet for anyone to see, including people who have or may have power over your livelihood, your destiny, etc. People erroneously thought that TikTok and other platforms were free speech protesting grounds. Maybe they do serve this role in some way, but they also harvest your information and store it, and it can be used against you at any time even years later. It's just common sense. Teach this to your kids.

+a million

Things you post online are part of your permanent record. Choose wisely.

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I don’t agree with it but from employers are seeing it as publicly celebrating or encouraging political violence.

This is a big risk for them to have an employee do this on social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with it but from employers are seeing it as publicly celebrating or encouraging political violence.

This is a big risk for them to have an employee do this on social media.

It’s also a big risk to have an employee lionizing such a hateful man on social media. Best to just keep your mouth shut.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with it but from employers are seeing it as publicly celebrating or encouraging political violence.

This is a big risk for them to have an employee do this on social media.

It’s also a big risk to have an employee lionizing such a hateful man on social media. Best to just keep your mouth shut.

I think that taking either side publicly is a bad idea right now.

[Anonymous]

It is depressing to see how quickly the right would like to lean into the kind of cancel culture that they pilloried the left (and rightly so) for engaging in. I'm starting to wonder if this is what it felt like to live in Franco's Spain during the mid 20th century.

I wish social media had never been invented. The evil has far started to outweigh the good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is depressing to see how quickly the right would like to lean into the kind of cancel culture that they pilloried the left (and rightly so) for engaging in. I'm starting to wonder if this is what it felt like to live in Franco's Spain during the mid 20th century.

I wish social media had never been invented. The evil has far started to outweigh the good.

Agreed that the evil FAR outweighs the good. Always has.

It should have a social stigma attached on par with littering.

[Anonymous]

Did Fox’s Brian Kilmeade lose his job yet for saying the government should unalive the homeless?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mindset of these idiots:

“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is horribly evil if I get fired for mine.”

+1