Government Shutdown - Sep 2025 Thread

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Anonymous wrote:So this shutdown could be normally furloughed employees are essentially never coming back?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/politics/white-house-mass-firings-government-shut-down

This is unclear.

Basically almost all of the executive branch has no independent funding except places like PTO.

Are they firing all those agencies?

Or do they mean anyone not essential and forced to work during shutdown is planned to be RIFFED?

The WH is saying to RIF everyone who is non-essential during the shutdown. Ordinarily, that's almost every federal employee. If this threat sticks around, then during the shutdown, departments and agencies will change their guidance about who is essential to include everyone. Every federal employee will be essential, will work as normal, but without pay until the shutdown ends. I doubt it will even come to that, though.

That’s not actually what the WH is saying. The OMB memo specifically says to consider RIFs in programs that don’t align with the admin’s priorities. They’ve already RIFed those people. Who is left to fire?

No one, which is why the memo isn't saying what you think it says. Like you said, it doesn't make sense your way, because those people have already been RIF'd.

Not one person has been RIFed at my large Agency. Most agency haven't had any one RIFed. Mine hasn't even fired people who were on PIPs.

Because all of the people at your large agency align with the admin's priorities.

That PP is correct, the people who "don't align" have mostly all been DRP'ed, RIF'ed, or at least been made aware. Read literally, this threat applies to no one (no one left).

PP here. Disagree. We have large sectors of our agency that the admin hates (environmental work type things).

One of the growth industries in 2025 is compiling lists lists of enemies to be targeted as the opportunity comes up.
The shutdown is one more "emergency" to be used to kick out troublemakers and cripple offices that are not properly aligned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So this shutdown could be normally furloughed employees are essentially never coming back?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/politics/white-house-mass-firings-government-shut-down

This is unclear.

Basically almost all of the executive branch has no independent funding except places like PTO.

Are they firing all those agencies?

Or do they mean anyone not essential and forced to work during shutdown is planned to be RIFFED?

The WH is saying to RIF everyone who is non-essential during the shutdown. Ordinarily, that's almost every federal employee. If this threat sticks around, then during the shutdown, departments and agencies will change their guidance about who is essential to include everyone. Every federal employee will be essential, will work as normal, but without pay until the shutdown ends. I doubt it will even come to that, though.

That’s not actually what the WH is saying. The OMB memo specifically says to consider RIFs in programs that don’t align with the admin’s priorities. They’ve already RIFed those people. Who is left to fire?

No one, which is why the memo isn't saying what you think it says. Like you said, it doesn't make sense your way, because those people have already been RIF'd.

Not one person has been RIFed at my large Agency. Most agency haven't had any one RIFed. Mine hasn't even fired people who were on PIPs.

Because all of the people at your large agency align with the admin's priorities.

That PP is correct, the people who "don't align" have mostly all been DRP'ed, RIF'ed, or at least been made aware. Read literally, this threat applies to no one (no one left).

PP here. Disagree. We have large sectors of our agency that the admin hates (environmental work type things).

One of the growth industries in 2025 is compiling lists lists of enemies to be targeted as the opportunity comes up.
The shutdown is one more "emergency" to be used to kick out troublemakers and cripple offices that are not properly aligned.

Let’s see if anything like this happens. Trump likes to talk a lot but not always do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this shutdown could be normally furloughed employees are essentially never coming back?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/politics/white-house-mass-firings-government-shut-down

This is unclear.

Basically almost all of the executive branch has no independent funding except places like PTO.

Are they firing all those agencies?

Or do they mean anyone not essential and forced to work during shutdown is planned to be RIFFED?

The WH is saying to RIF everyone who is non-essential during the shutdown. Ordinarily, that's almost every federal employee. If this threat sticks around, then during the shutdown, departments and agencies will change their guidance about who is essential to include everyone. Every federal employee will be essential, will work as normal, but without pay until the shutdown ends. I doubt it will even come to that, though.

That’s not actually what the WH is saying. The OMB memo specifically says to consider RIFs in programs that don’t align with the admin’s priorities. They’ve already RIFed those people. Who is left to fire?

No one, which is why the memo isn't saying what you think it says. Like you said, it doesn't make sense your way, because those people have already been RIF'd.

Not one person has been RIFed at my large Agency. Most agency haven't had any one RIFed. Mine hasn't even fired people who were on PIPs.

Same.

To another PP’s point, only parts of my agency “align” with the current administration. Some parts certainly do not.

But, I’m not going to worry about this. My magic eight ball says future unclear. It is, in fact, all unclear.

NP. I just don’t see how this is a new threat. If your mission doesn’t align with the administration, your job is already at great risk and it’s likely a matter of time, regardless of shutdown. He keeps getting upheld at the Supreme Court, so you already have no protections. I’m a federal worker who has to come in during a shutdown and I still pray that for once the Dems stay strong and SHUT IT DOWN.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this shutdown could be normally furloughed employees are essentially never coming back?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/politics/white-house-mass-firings-government-shut-down

This is unclear.

Basically almost all of the executive branch has no independent funding except places like PTO.

Are they firing all those agencies?

Or do they mean anyone not essential and forced to work during shutdown is planned to be RIFFED?

The WH is saying to RIF everyone who is non-essential during the shutdown. Ordinarily, that's almost every federal employee. If this threat sticks around, then during the shutdown, departments and agencies will change their guidance about who is essential to include everyone. Every federal employee will be essential, will work as normal, but without pay until the shutdown ends. I doubt it will even come to that, though.

That’s not actually what the WH is saying. The OMB memo specifically says to consider RIFs in programs that don’t align with the admin’s priorities. They’ve already RIFed those people. Who is left to fire?

No one, which is why the memo isn't saying what you think it says. Like you said, it doesn't make sense your way, because those people have already been RIF'd.

Not one person has been RIFed at my large Agency. Most agency haven't had any one RIFed. Mine hasn't even fired people who were on PIPs.

Because all of the people at your large agency align with the admin's priorities.

That PP is correct, the people who "don't align" have mostly all been DRP'ed, RIF'ed, or at least been made aware. Read literally, this threat applies to no one (no one left).

PP here. Disagree. We have large sectors of our agency that the admin hates (environmental work type things).

One of the growth industries in 2025 is compiling lists lists of enemies to be targeted as the opportunity comes up.
The shutdown is one more "emergency" to be used to kick out troublemakers and cripple offices that are not properly aligned.

They don't need an extra emergency to go after their enemies. Their strategy has been to keep the entire country is constant chaos, allowing them to all kinds of crazy shit while attention is scattered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this shutdown could be normally furloughed employees are essentially never coming back?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/politics/white-house-mass-firings-government-shut-down

This is unclear.

Basically almost all of the executive branch has no independent funding except places like PTO.

Are they firing all those agencies?

Or do they mean anyone not essential and forced to work during shutdown is planned to be RIFFED?

The WH is saying to RIF everyone who is non-essential during the shutdown. Ordinarily, that's almost every federal employee. If this threat sticks around, then during the shutdown, departments and agencies will change their guidance about who is essential to include everyone. Every federal employee will be essential, will work as normal, but without pay until the shutdown ends. I doubt it will even come to that, though.

That’s not actually what the WH is saying. The OMB memo specifically says to consider RIFs in programs that don’t align with the admin’s priorities. They’ve already RIFed those people. Who is left to fire?

No one, which is why the memo isn't saying what you think it says. Like you said, it doesn't make sense your way, because those people have already been RIF'd.

Not one person has been RIFed at my large Agency. Most agency haven't had any one RIFed. Mine hasn't even fired people who were on PIPs.

Same.

To another PP’s point, only parts of my agency “align” with the current administration. Some parts certainly do not.

But, I’m not going to worry about this. My magic eight ball says future unclear. It is, in fact, all unclear.

NP. I just don’t see how this is a new threat. If your mission doesn’t align with the administration, your job is already at great risk and it’s likely a matter of time, regardless of shutdown. He keeps getting upheld at the Supreme Court, so you already have no protections. I’m a federal worker who has to come in during a shutdown and I still pray that for once the Dems stay strong and SHUT IT DOWN.

What does this really accomplish? It's a clean CR. Schumer looks like a petulant child.

[Anonymous]

Schumer does look like a petulant child, and I find no comfort in his statement that any mass firings will be overturned by the courts. Are you sure? Can you pay my bills and provide my health insurance in the interim, since we are so worried about people having healthcare?

And can someone please listen to the Punchbowl News interview of Hakeem Jeffries so we can commiserate - the Dems cannot articulate what this shutdown is about. Healthcare and vaccines?? That’s the message?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schumer does look like a petulant child, and I find no comfort in his statement that any mass firings will be overturned by the courts. Are you sure? Can you pay my bills and provide my health insurance in the interim, since we are so worried about people having healthcare?

And can someone please listen to the Punchbowl News interview of Hakeem Jeffries so we can commiserate - the Dems cannot articulate what this shutdown is about. Healthcare and vaccines?? That’s the message?

Schumer is a clown. None of the RIF challenges have stood up in court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schumer does look like a petulant child, and I find no comfort in his statement that any mass firings will be overturned by the courts. Are you sure? Can you pay my bills and provide my health insurance in the interim, since we are so worried about people having healthcare?

And can someone please listen to the Punchbowl News interview of Hakeem Jeffries so we can commiserate - the Dems cannot articulate what this shutdown is about. Healthcare and vaccines?? That’s the message?

Really? Not Vought, the unelected moron who is the one threatening to destroy the livelihoods of American families? When no other lapse in funding has ever required firing 90% of the government? You MAGA are really dim bulbs.

[Anonymous]

Vought knows how to work within the rules to achieve his objectives. It would be silly to underestimate him. He will take the civil service system where he wants to take it and it will be upheld by every court.

[Anonymous]

Got update Hill tonight, shutdown will be two week minimum, it is definitely on. Good news payroll is run 9/30 before shutdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Got update Hill tonight, shutdown will be two week minimum, it is definitely on. Good news payroll is run 9/30 before shutdown.

can you elaborate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Got update Hill tonight, shutdown will be two week minimum, it is definitely on. Good news payroll is run 9/30 before shutdown.

The shutdown is “definitely on” every time there is a threat of a shutdown. 🥱

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vought knows how to work within the rules to achieve his objectives. It would be silly to underestimate him. He will take the civil service system where he wants to take it and it will be upheld by every court.

He thought he could punk Congress with his pocket rescissions and got played bc even the White House realized you can’t withhold half the government’s funding and get away with it. So now they’ll try to fire all the staff associated with those programs because oops if you don’t have the staff to run the programs (bc let’s face it-they will be funded once the full year bill does get enacted), then you can’t get the money out the door bc no ppl there to do the work. What I’d like to know is who hurt this person to the point where they ended up so evil?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vought knows how to work within the rules to achieve his objectives. It would be silly to underestimate him. He will take the civil service system where he wants to take it and it will be upheld by every court.

This administration is pretty well known for its failures but if you think this nutcase will succeed where many others have failed, I would love to hear why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schumer does look like a petulant child, and I find no comfort in his statement that any mass firings will be overturned by the courts. Are you sure? Can you pay my bills and provide my health insurance in the interim, since we are so worried about people having healthcare?

And can someone please listen to the Punchbowl News interview of Hakeem Jeffries so we can commiserate - the Dems cannot articulate what this shutdown is about. Healthcare and vaccines?? That’s the message?

Regretting your MAGA choices?