With Love, Meghan on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan revealed that she decided to film With Love, Meghan in a nearby rental to protect her family. She and Prince Harry are parents to two children: 5-year-old Archie Harrison and 3-year-old Lilibet Diana.

“I wanted to protect that safe haven,” she told People in an exclusive interview. “We’re a close-knit family, and I love those moments — putting Lili down for a nap, having lunch together, having sacred time together at the end of the day."

She continued, "Our kitchen is where Mama just cooks for the family, and with a crew of 80-plus people, that’s a lot of people to have in your house!”

While the series’ interior scenes were filmed in the farmhouse, a few scenes showcase the exterior of her Montecito house, including the backyard, chicken coop, and orchard.

Who talks like that about their nuclear family with kids 5 and under? “We’re a close knit family!” It’s strange, tense, and unnatural.

I think she’s trying as carefully as possible to acknowledge that her privilege allows her that slower pace of life, and kind of defending that choice a little bit. The examples she gives (eating lunch together, being the one to put baby down for a nap) are not available to a dual-income family with parents who travel all the time for work and outsource the majority of their childcare (and remember, her foil here is similarly privileged people making a different choice). But no matter what she does, doesn’t do, says, doesn’t say, she’ll get hate.

Okay but that's also what SAHMs have, and they don't call it a "close knit family." It just means you have a lot of time to spend with your kids and you enjoy and appreciate that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reviews are not looking good.

Variety: "With Love, Meghan” is made with a great deal of love -- in the sense that the greatest love of all is the one that a person has for herself."

omg.

Brutal. I think I feel bad for her only because she seems really earnest about this. And I am NO fan of hers.

Honestly, that Oprah interview was probably the worst thing they could’ve done for their long term success. They would seem so much more sympathetic and likable if they had not done that.

+1. She lost me with the “Waity Katey” comment. Mean girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had zero interest in this show before, but all the haters on this thread are making me interested in the peaceful escapism on view here.

Also remember early GOOP recipes, like vegenaise+lemon “aioli”? And Pippa Middletons celebrations book? The public thought they were mocking individuals for their foolishness, but this is just how a certain slice of society lives. It’s especially pronounced bc millennials are all about simplifying, whereas a lot of privileged older white ladies bought into Martha Stewart’s ridiculous elaborateness as the height of aspiration back in the day so it’s not computing. I’d be really surprised if many of the women saying the show isn’t offering anything special, actually live this beautifully IRL. You have to prioritize aesthetics in your home life to have this kind of look and lifestyle.

What?? Obviously not - most of us are not married to a prince and living in a $15M mansion in CA. I mean look at the name of this forum.

We are comparing her content to other content, not to our own lives. And can cringe at the weird things she says apart from whatever our own aesthetic are.

I'm also just not impressed by someone "prioritizing aesthetics" when they have $$$ for their home life and for a Netflix set. Plenty of designers, decorators etc. could do this as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reviews are not looking good.

Variety: "With Love, Meghan” is made with a great deal of love -- in the sense that the greatest love of all is the one that a person has for herself."

omg.

Brutal. I think I feel bad for her only because she seems really earnest about this. And I am NO fan of hers.

Honestly, that Oprah interview was probably the worst thing they could’ve done for their long term success. They would seem so much more sympathetic and likable if they had not done that.

+1. She lost me with the “Waity Katey” comment. Mean girl.

When did she say this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had zero interest in this show before, but all the haters on this thread are making me interested in the peaceful escapism on view here.

Also remember early GOOP recipes, like vegenaise+lemon “aioli”? And Pippa Middletons celebrations book? The public thought they were mocking individuals for their foolishness, but this is just how a certain slice of society lives. It’s especially pronounced bc millennials are all about simplifying, whereas a lot of privileged older white ladies bought into Martha Stewart’s ridiculous elaborateness as the height of aspiration back in the day so it’s not computing. I’d be really surprised if many of the women saying the show isn’t offering anything special, actually live this beautifully IRL. You have to prioritize aesthetics in your home life to have this kind of look and lifestyle.

Nice try. You were watching it anyway.

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It’s not beautiful living at all. The wow factor is coming from the setting, and nothing suggests Meghan is a competent gardener. The people in her orbit who knew what it takes to grow plants were Charles and Camilla. She has never previously owned property, never showed an interest in any prior life stage, and currently refuses to show anything like her life in her price-slashed oligarch-had-to-sell mansion. It’s all fake. The fakest things are her skill set, her charm, and what’s sitting on her head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had zero interest in this show before, but all the haters on this thread are making me interested in the peaceful escapism on view here.

Also remember early GOOP recipes, like vegenaise+lemon “aioli”? And Pippa Middletons celebrations book? The public thought they were mocking individuals for their foolishness, but this is just how a certain slice of society lives. It’s especially pronounced bc millennials are all about simplifying, whereas a lot of privileged older white ladies bought into Martha Stewart’s ridiculous elaborateness as the height of aspiration back in the day so it’s not computing. I’d be really surprised if many of the women saying the show isn’t offering anything special, actually live this beautifully IRL. You have to prioritize aesthetics in your home life to have this kind of look and lifestyle.

What?? Obviously not - most of us are not married to a prince and living in a $15M mansion in CA. I mean look at the name of this forum.

We are comparing her content to other content, not to our own lives. And can cringe at the weird things she says apart from whatever our own aesthetic are.

I'm also just not impressed by someone "prioritizing aesthetics" when they have $$$ for their home life and for a Netflix set. Plenty of designers, decorators etc. could do this as well.

I think this comment was so funny and out of touch. Meghan shows that someone with few skills can rent a gorgeous home for tons of money and buy the best of everything in great quantities and put it together on a plate and with decor that also cost a ton of money and was sourced by a set designer. Many women (and some men) do care about beauty in their homes, make great food from scratch and displaying it beautifully. They have done this forever with a much smaller budget (often in fact to save money) and with true skills including canning, bread making, jam making, growing one's own vegetables and flowers. And they don't just do it for tv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reviews are not looking good.

Variety: "With Love, Meghan” is made with a great deal of love -- in the sense that the greatest love of all is the one that a person has for herself."

omg.

Brutal. I think I feel bad for her only because she seems really earnest about this. And I am NO fan of hers.

Honestly, that Oprah interview was probably the worst thing they could’ve done for their long term success. They would seem so much more sympathetic and likable if they had not done that.

+1. She lost me with the “Waity Katey” comment. Mean girl.

Isn't that something the tabloids were saying about Kate way before Meghan came on the scene? What was so mean about pointing out that the tabloids were mean to Kate too? Sounds empathic and emotionally mature to me that she acknowledged Kate's previous struggles with the press.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meghan revealed that she decided to film With Love, Meghan in a nearby rental to protect her family. She and Prince Harry are parents to two children: 5-year-old Archie Harrison and 3-year-old Lilibet Diana.

“I wanted to protect that safe haven,” she told People in an exclusive interview. “We’re a close-knit family, and I love those moments — putting Lili down for a nap, having lunch together, having sacred time together at the end of the day."

She continued, "Our kitchen is where Mama just cooks for the family, and with a crew of 80-plus people, that’s a lot of people to have in your house!”

While the series’ interior scenes were filmed in the farmhouse, a few scenes showcase the exterior of her Montecito house, including the backyard, chicken coop, and orchard.

Who talks like that about their nuclear family with kids 5 and under? “We’re a close knit family!” It’s strange, tense, and unnatural.

I think she’s trying as carefully as possible to acknowledge that her privilege allows her that slower pace of life, and kind of defending that choice a little bit. The examples she gives (eating lunch together, being the one to put baby down for a nap) are not available to a dual-income family with parents who travel all the time for work and outsource the majority of their childcare (and remember, her foil here is similarly privileged people making a different choice). But no matter what she does, doesn’t do, says, doesn’t say, she’ll get hate.

Okay but that's also what SAHMs have, and they don't call it a "close knit family." It just means you have a lot of time to spend with your kids and you enjoy and appreciate that.

“Sacred time at the end of the day” lolz

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think they have a beautiful life. Sort of permanent vacation. Mix it with work when they want to. Imagine them cooking and playing outside all day.

This is a meaningful, beautiful life? Playing in your gorgeous backyard every day with three or four family members? I think for a healthy adult that would get old pretty quickly. There is no great love story between two people who only have each other...that seems parasitic. And they have that deprived quality in their life because they have had so many breaks from their past. You cannot simply cut off multiple people, many people in fact from your history and be an integrated person. I'm not talking about cutting off a true abuser...i mean the level of multiple cut offs between these two. It has left them fragmented.

She's in an identity crisis. And she may be for years. Who am I now and how will the public accept me is the million dollar question that I suspect she is wrestling with. This is her latest attempt. And elements of it have authenticity and some elements don't.

I disagree. How she lives is literally how so many (wealthy) women live.
If they are happy, they are building memories, teaching the beauty of the earth to their children, teaching connection, teaching privilege and giving back.
If they are not happy, they will seek happiness. That’s it. Let’s not predict that this will get old. Let’s be okay with them living as a lot of wealthy couples do—fairly content, having chickens and bees, traveling between a few places, the occasional glamorous party, obsessing over a beautiful life. Putting some content out there periodically.

But you're removing their psychology, who they are, their issues and their past from this narrative. As if you can plop anyone into the very "wealthy" world people live and it will look the same. It will perhaps superficially but underneath it will not. You can't airbrush out pathology and trauma. And You can disagree that's fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not beautiful living at all. The wow factor is coming from the setting, and nothing suggests Meghan is a competent gardener. The people in her orbit who knew what it takes to grow plants were Charles and Camilla. She has never previously owned property, never showed an interest in any prior life stage, and currently refuses to show anything like her life in her price-slashed oligarch-had-to-sell mansion. It’s all fake. The fakest things are her skill set, her charm, and what’s sitting on her head.

Right...for whatever criticisms people throw at Martha, she really did, (despite also having a team) do all the things she preached. It was real. And she did these things for decades. She gardened, cooked, took care of her animals, renovated her first house and knew how to craft and decorate/collect, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meghan revealed that she decided to film With Love, Meghan in a nearby rental to protect her family. She and Prince Harry are parents to two children: 5-year-old Archie Harrison and 3-year-old Lilibet Diana.

“I wanted to protect that safe haven,” she told People in an exclusive interview. “We’re a close-knit family, and I love those moments — putting Lili down for a nap, having lunch together, having sacred time together at the end of the day."

She continued, "Our kitchen is where Mama just cooks for the family, and with a crew of 80-plus people, that’s a lot of people to have in your house!”

While the series’ interior scenes were filmed in the farmhouse, a few scenes showcase the exterior of her Montecito house, including the backyard, chicken coop, and orchard.

Who talks like that about their nuclear family with kids 5 and under? “We’re a close knit family!” It’s strange, tense, and unnatural.

I think she’s trying as carefully as possible to acknowledge that her privilege allows her that slower pace of life, and kind of defending that choice a little bit. The examples she gives (eating lunch together, being the one to put baby down for a nap) are not available to a dual-income family with parents who travel all the time for work and outsource the majority of their childcare (and remember, her foil here is similarly privileged people making a different choice). But no matter what she does, doesn’t do, says, doesn’t say, she’ll get hate.

Okay but that's also what SAHMs have, and they don't call it a "close knit family." It just means you have a lot of time to spend with your kids and you enjoy and appreciate that.

“Sacred time at the end of the day” lolz

It's all so idealized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meghan revealed that she decided to film With Love, Meghan in a nearby rental to protect her family. She and Prince Harry are parents to two children: 5-year-old Archie Harrison and 3-year-old Lilibet Diana.

“I wanted to protect that safe haven,” she told People in an exclusive interview. “We’re a close-knit family, and I love those moments — putting Lili down for a nap, having lunch together, having sacred time together at the end of the day."

She continued, "Our kitchen is where Mama just cooks for the family, and with a crew of 80-plus people, that’s a lot of people to have in your house!”

While the series’ interior scenes were filmed in the farmhouse, a few scenes showcase the exterior of her Montecito house, including the backyard, chicken coop, and orchard.

Are we really supposed to believe that 80+ people in the crew were actually present for filming and would have been in her house had she filmed at her own house? I would have thought with this type of show there were a few camera people, a few sound people, a producer present, hair, makeup and a couple of people doing food-related work on the set. I'm sure there are 80 names in the credits but a lot of that work happens separate from filming/off site. Just seems like another over the top statement to make her look important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meghan revealed that she decided to film With Love, Meghan in a nearby rental to protect her family. She and Prince Harry are parents to two children: 5-year-old Archie Harrison and 3-year-old Lilibet Diana.

“I wanted to protect that safe haven,” she told People in an exclusive interview. “We’re a close-knit family, and I love those moments — putting Lili down for a nap, having lunch together, having sacred time together at the end of the day."

She continued, "Our kitchen is where Mama just cooks for the family, and with a crew of 80-plus people, that’s a lot of people to have in your house!”

While the series’ interior scenes were filmed in the farmhouse, a few scenes showcase the exterior of her Montecito house, including the backyard, chicken coop, and orchard.

Are we really supposed to believe that 80+ people in the crew were actually present for filming and would have been in her house had she filmed at her own house? I would have thought with this type of show there were a few camera people, a few sound people, a producer present, hair, makeup and a couple of people doing food-related work on the set. I'm sure there are 80 names in the credits but a lot of that work happens separate from filming/off site. Just seems like another over the top statement to make her look important.

Eighty sounds like an exaggeration. Forty seems more realistic if including Meghan's personal assistants, etc.

[Anonymous]

Her friend Vicky Tsai, Tatcha co founder, has a moment where she makes a pretty funny joke about being the perfect immigrant daughter and then getting over that and it could have been a very funny relatable, shared moment but Meghan looks like she completely ignores it. It's like there was no space for real spontaneity or anything genuinely real.