MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

Sure White Flint too, with bonus metro access.

This was an idyllic post-slavery rural county that greedy developers turned into little SFH enclaves (with racially restrictive covenants). And greedy developers will turn it into something else next.

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Good to know your history before you yearn for back in the day.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

+1000

The Soros-inspired liberal fringe is determined to destroy America. That's not what they say, of course. Judge them by their results.

Montgomery County used to have the best school system in the region and in the nation. That's gone. You can thank the "Progressives" for that.

Oh, yes, you can always expect a well-reasoned and compelling post when it says "Soros-inspired" right in the first line. Can the Rothschilds and space lasers be far behind?

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Please. No more low income is needed in white oak. It’s already infested with crime.

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Anonymous wrote:“ All owned by corporations and investors.”. - Yes.

The SFH is also an aspiration. In my view, the MoCo council is telling me all the work I put into moving my family into my SFH neighborhood is worthless. Because someone else cannot do it, what I achieved has no merit at all. And they will partner with developers to destroy our communities.

It’s the ultimate destruction of wealth under a flag of equity, which shows the incompetence and lack of qualification this local government has.

I am not affluent and worked to become a home owner. This is an investment for our family and what we are leaving our children or hoping to sustain us in old age. I am not asking the MoCo Council for a handout but rather to respect and uphold the freedom to build a future. This imposition in neighborhoods is disrespectful and begs the big question to be asked: Why are you disrupting instead of building true prosperity for MoCo. Are developers more important than your constituents? Why are you punishing homeowners that pay YOUR SALARY?

Boy, there sure is a lot of talk about "destruction of neighborhoods" here. When I think of destruction of neighborhoods, I think of the flooding in central Europe. I don't think of legalizing duplexes.

Your response is totally disingenuous. First, it’s up to four-unit buildings under this proposal. But even if it were duplexes, that increases the cars needed to park on the street, the demands on infrastructure, the number of students in already overcrowded schools - none of which developers have any care about and the county is already unable to adequately address these issues due to budget constraints. So quality of life goes way down, people leave, neighborhoods go downhill …. That is a reality.

But even the more fundamental issue: people buy SFHs deliberately - it’s a choice and a major investment.

There’s a reasonable expectation - or there has been - that zoning ensures that the fundamentals of the neighborhood are protected.

Would I have bought my home that I saved for for more than a decade if I knew tomorrow my street would be filled with quadplexes and parking and schools, already at capacity, would be even more taxed? No.

That the trees and quiet and small scale of my neighborhood would be destroyed? No.

I didn’t want to live in downtown - couldn’t have afforded it, either. And now developers and entitled YIMBYs want to gaslight me into thinking I’m the problem for taking issue with this proposal? No.

I guess it depends on what you consider "the fundamentals".

If the proposal goes through, will your street be filled with four-unit buildings and parked cars tomorrow? No.
If your street were filled with four-unit buildings and parked cars tomorrow, would the neighborhood be destroyed? No, actually the contrary. More people would be living there.
Would four-unit buildings and parking turn your street into downtown? No.
Are you the problem? No, the housing shortage is the problem, or at least one of them.
If this proposal doesn't go through, will that stop your street from changing? No. There is nothing to stop someone from moving in next door to you, cutting down all the trees, parking 8 cars in the street, and having screaming arguments every night and parties every weekend.

We don’t want more people to come, that’s the point. We want our neighborhoods which we purchased into as SFH to remain as such.

Yes, it's clear that you don't want change. Change will happen anyway, though, no matter what the County Council does or doesn't do.

One point of disagreement: You purchased a house. You purchased a property. You did not purchase, or purchase into, a neighborhood.

Go back to your rental hole and stop being bitter other people are more successful than you and worked harder than you to own a home.

I am a NP, but I live in one of the wealthier neighborhoods that are unaffected by this proposal. According to your own thesis, you are just bitter that other people are more successful than you and worked harder than you to own a home in a neighborhood where these new proposals don't apply.

I don't think that way, mind you, but that appears to be your attitude. It is not a good look. You should try to be better.

What are the areas that are unaffected by this proposal?
I am in a beautiful area of Potomac where we live on 1.5-3 acre lots and our schools are already crowded as it is. I cannot imagine the traffic on river road going in to my job and what my kids schools would look like if we had apartment complexes everywhere!! Is my area exempt?
The truth is that we worked extremely hard for our way of life and we take good care of our neighborhood and we are deeply community minded people, and we don’t want to see it all ruined because the county has messed up the amount of people that let in and cannot handle the influx and strain!

Seriously... You really think they're going to build apartments out there? No, no one would want to live in an apartment out there.

How much of the concern is from people this divorced from reality?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

+1000

The Soros-inspired liberal fringe is determined to destroy America. That's not what they say, of course. Judge them by their results.

Montgomery County used to have the best school system in the region and in the nation. That's gone. You can thank the "Progressives" for that.

Oh, yes, you can always expect a well-reasoned and compelling post when it says "Soros-inspired" right in the first line. Can the Rothschilds and space lasers be far behind?

Let's break down your response. What do the Rothschilds and space lasers have to do with the Progressives' dystopian vision for Montgomery County? The answer is nothing, you idiot. Soros on the other hand is funding Progressive candidates all over the nation.

You didn't mention the state of Montgomery County schools, did you? Of course not. You are more interested in insulting than in responding to facts. What would you like to say about the state of the school system now that the Progressives have had their way with it? Would you like to give a real response, or would you rather talk about the Rothschilds and space lasers?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

But much of the justification of increased densities along the corridors has to do with proximity to BRT. White Oak would have that. Which is it, BRT is good enough to justify rail-proximate-like densities or not? Or only when it's what developers are pushing?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

But much of the justification of increased densities along the corridors has to do with proximity to BRT. White Oak would have that. Which is it, BRT is good enough to justify rail-proximate-like densities or not? Or only when it's what developers are pushing?

No, BRT running in unrestricted lanes is not good enough for rail-proximate-like densities.

Is BRT still worth doing? Sometimes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

But much of the justification of increased densities along the corridors has to do with proximity to BRT. White Oak would have that. Which is it, BRT is good enough to justify rail-proximate-like densities or not? Or only when it's what developers are pushing?

No, BRT running in unrestricted lanes is not good enough for rail-proximate-like densities.

Is BRT still worth doing? Sometimes.

Great. Then let's stop with the nonsense about 500 feet from a corridor being open to 19-unit stacked flats with the BRT justification and the ridiculously low benefit-to-society bar presented to developers by the Attainable Housing Optional Method.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

But much of the justification of increased densities along the corridors has to do with proximity to BRT. White Oak would have that. Which is it, BRT is good enough to justify rail-proximate-like densities or not? Or only when it's what developers are pushing?

No, BRT running in unrestricted lanes is not good enough for rail-proximate-like densities.

Is BRT still worth doing? Sometimes.

If the bus is running in the general travel lane, it's not BRT, it's just a bus.

People who express concerns about lack of transit should push for dedicated lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

But much of the justification of increased densities along the corridors has to do with proximity to BRT. White Oak would have that. Which is it, BRT is good enough to justify rail-proximate-like densities or not? Or only when it's what developers are pushing?

No, BRT running in unrestricted lanes is not good enough for rail-proximate-like densities.

Is BRT still worth doing? Sometimes.

Great. Then let's stop with the nonsense about 500 feet from a corridor being open to 19-unit stacked flats with the BRT justification and the ridiculously low benefit-to-society bar presented to developers by the Attainable Housing Optional Method.

19-unit stacked townhomes isn't even close to metro-proximate density. You must not leave your bubble much, otherwise you'd know there's a world of difference between, say, Kentlands/Crown and Bethesda/Friendship Heights. And you seem quite oblivious to the fact that there are apartment buildings scattered all over the county, certainly not limited to areas adjacent to metro/MARC/BRT stops.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it extremely rich the county rolls out the red carpet for massive amounts of undocumented migration and then complains later on about a 'housing crisis!'. Why exactly should American citizens upend our way of life and our housing we worked extremely hard to own because there are thousands upon thousands of affordable housing units that already exist but are gobbled up by undocumented migrants? You can't manufacture a crisis then demand our citizens ruin their way of life because foreign nationals are here illegally and consuming massive quantities of housing.

How about removing people here illegally first, then evaluating the housing stock once huge quantities are freed up for our actually citizens?

The county continually makes problems and comes up with solutions that make everything worse. Rinse and repeat until we are all equally in the gutter. I'm so glad we are moving at breakneck speed to be a county entirely of renters beholden to our corporate landlords. The only progress progressives are making is hitting the middle class and making us all slaves to landlords and investors.

Our population growth rate now is lower than when a 1960 suburb was built. If we absorbed that, we can absorb today. In fact, we should absorb more, for strategic and economic reasons.

Certainly, in a well planned manner in areas zoned for it.

For example, why are we wasting valuable time fighting about this ridiculous want for upzoning residential when the county could be zoning the Sears complex in White Oak for residential/commercial? Instead of finding a new anchor, they should bulldoze it and build.

White Oak? Unless you work at FDA, that's the middle of nowhere. The Sears site is relatively small and so far from transit that it isn't really a candidate for mixed use development.

lol, what? They are planning to do a huge amount of development out there. You’ll even be able to take the new magic YIMBY bus and purple line.

That's on the other side of FDA where there's more space to do something than the Sears site.

And no, it's not on the purple line. That's 5 miles away.

But much of the justification of increased densities along the corridors has to do with proximity to BRT. White Oak would have that. Which is it, BRT is good enough to justify rail-proximate-like densities or not? Or only when it's what developers are pushing?

Have you ever been to White Oak to see what is currently there?