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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

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This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

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Anonymous wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Liberals think the only 2 things that exist regarding states rights are abortion and slavery. It’s tiresome.

States rights does not justify denial of basic rights.

Abortion is not a human right. It has no basis in natural law, or international treaty law.

“abortion” does not appear in any of the U.N. human rights treaties, not even in the ones that the United States has not ratified.

The U.N.’s human rights experts lack the authority to create new rights.

The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)—one of the few human rights treaties that the United States has signed and ratified—impedes their efforts. It states: “Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.”
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Article 6, paragraph 1.

The treaty prohibits the death penalty in the case of a pregnant woman, presumably to spare the innocent life of the unborn child.

If you think you have the ability to tell any women like myself or my daughters what reproductive decisions they will make, prepare to be sorely disappointed. This will not be tolerated by most women and the people that care about them, regardless of their home state. This is not your business, never has been and never will be. If you are struggling to understand this, wait until election day and it will become clear to you.

It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

Like many women, I have had a miscarriage. While it was an incredibly sad experience, it was not a death. And if a miscarriage doesn't count as a death then an abortion doesn't either.

Pregnancy loss is defined differently around the world, but in general a baby who dies before 28 weeks of pregnancy is referred to as a miscarriage, and babies who die at or after 28 weeks are stillbirths.

Are you denying your son or daughter was alive in your uterus, and then died?

I am sorry for your loss. It’s extremely traumatic to lose a child.

Every woman’s life and every child’s life is valuable.

And every decision a woman makes about her own uterus is non of your concern.

It is not just a uterus. A baby is growing.

You spelled clump of cells wrong.

You are welcome to call your growing baby a clump of cells. My husband and I were so happy each of the two times I was pregnant . Dudring each doctor visit of my pregnancy, the obstetrician referred to our baby.

This is entirely the point, yes? You're free to view it as a baby and others are not, while dependent on the mother (host) for survival. Which is why people should not be making decisions for how to deal with the baby/cell clump. You make yours and others will make theirs.

Newborn babies are usually dependent on the mother for survival as well. By your rationale child abandonment, or worse, should be totally okay, right?

Babies are not dependent on the particular person who gave birth to them once they are born. That’s how adoption is a thing. Or you know, fathers taking care of their babies. I can’t believe you actually need this explained to you.

90% of Americans are neither forced birthers (someone who doesn't believe abortion should be legal under any circumstance) or baby killers (someone that believes abortion should be legal up until the moment a a baby takes it's first breath). With R vs W being overturned, we are now left with each state determining the abortion laws applicable to their state. There is an important discussion to be had about abortion but no one seems to be interested in having that important discussion. Here goes- I've always thought of myself as pro-choice but based on my little scientific knowledge of the issue, I'm uncertain of how far along in pregnancy abortion should be legal. 25 to 30 weeks is where I feel most comfortable at this point but I could be convinced of anywhere between 20 to 35 weeks. Does my belief that there should be a point in time during a pregnancy term for which abortion is no longer legal make me pro-life or does my belief in 25-30 weeks leave me in the pro-choice camp? I'd love to hear some more productive conversation on this topic that includes numbers of weeks, scientific data, and reasons for exceptions. I'm tired of hearing people ridicule each other with an insinuation of the other person being a forced birther or baby killer. Most of us are neither but I think most of us, like me, aren't 100% sure of exactly where they stand as far as the specifics of abortion laws because we don't choose to talk about it and think about it as much we prefer to throw insults to those on the other "side" of the issue.

I encourage you to go read the stories of women who seek abortions during the late stages of pregnancy. It's incredibly sad - often they've picked out a name, set up the baby's room, etc...only to find out that their baby won't survive outside the womb. Rather than trying to apply some universal standard, why not treat it on a case-by-case basis and leave the decision to each woman and her doctor?

Because if there were no legal restrictions on abortions, abortions could legally happen up until a baby takes it first breath and most people don't believe abortions that late in a pregnancy term should legal unless in an exception case such as your example of a baby that won't survive outside the womb. Most people, including pro-choice minded people like myself, agree that there should be late term abortion restrictions with exceptions for special circumstances and I'm curious to know what others thoughts are on where that cut off should be and how they came to that conclusion. Somewhere in the 25-30 weeks is a time frame I think could be reasonable but that is mostly an uneducated guess.

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Anonymous wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Liberals think the only 2 things that exist regarding states rights are abortion and slavery. It’s tiresome.

States rights does not justify denial of basic rights.

Abortion is not a human right. It has no basis in natural law, or international treaty law.

“abortion” does not appear in any of the U.N. human rights treaties, not even in the ones that the United States has not ratified.

The U.N.’s human rights experts lack the authority to create new rights.

The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)—one of the few human rights treaties that the United States has signed and ratified—impedes their efforts. It states: “Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.”
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Article 6, paragraph 1.

The treaty prohibits the death penalty in the case of a pregnant woman, presumably to spare the innocent life of the unborn child.

If you think you have the ability to tell any women like myself or my daughters what reproductive decisions they will make, prepare to be sorely disappointed. This will not be tolerated by most women and the people that care about them, regardless of their home state. This is not your business, never has been and never will be. If you are struggling to understand this, wait until election day and it will become clear to you.

It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

Like many women, I have had a miscarriage. While it was an incredibly sad experience, it was not a death. And if a miscarriage doesn't count as a death then an abortion doesn't either.

Pregnancy loss is defined differently around the world, but in general a baby who dies before 28 weeks of pregnancy is referred to as a miscarriage, and babies who die at or after 28 weeks are stillbirths.

Are you denying your son or daughter was alive in your uterus, and then died?

I am sorry for your loss. It’s extremely traumatic to lose a child.

Every woman’s life and every child’s life is valuable.

And every decision a woman makes about her own uterus is non of your concern.

It is not just a uterus. A baby is growing.

You spelled clump of cells wrong.

You are welcome to call your growing baby a clump of cells. My husband and I were so happy each of the two times I was pregnant . Dudring each doctor visit of my pregnancy, the obstetrician referred to our baby.

This is entirely the point, yes? You're free to view it as a baby and others are not, while dependent on the mother (host) for survival. Which is why people should not be making decisions for how to deal with the baby/cell clump. You make yours and others will make theirs.

Newborn babies are usually dependent on the mother for survival as well. By your rationale child abandonment, or worse, should be totally okay, right?

Babies are not dependent on the particular person who gave birth to them once they are born. That’s how adoption is a thing. Or you know, fathers taking care of their babies. I can’t believe you actually need this explained to you.

90% of Americans are neither forced birthers (someone who doesn't believe abortion should be legal under any circumstance) or baby killers (someone that believes abortion should be legal up until the moment a a baby takes it's first breath). With R vs W being overturned, we are now left with each state determining the abortion laws applicable to their state. There is an important discussion to be had about abortion but no one seems to be interested in having that important discussion. Here goes- I've always thought of myself as pro-choice but based on my little scientific knowledge of the issue, I'm uncertain of how far along in pregnancy abortion should be legal. 25 to 30 weeks is where I feel most comfortable at this point but I could be convinced of anywhere between 20 to 35 weeks. Does my belief that there should be a point in time during a pregnancy term for which abortion is no longer legal make me pro-life or does my belief in 25-30 weeks leave me in the pro-choice camp? I'd love to hear some more productive conversation on this topic that includes numbers of weeks, scientific data, and reasons for exceptions. I'm tired of hearing people ridicule each other with an insinuation of the other person being a forced birther or baby killer. Most of us are neither but I think most of us, like me, aren't 100% sure of exactly where they stand as far as the specifics of abortion laws because we don't choose to talk about it and think about it as much we prefer to throw insults to those on the other "side" of the issue.

I encourage you to go read the stories of women who seek abortions during the late stages of pregnancy. It's incredibly sad - often they've picked out a name, set up the baby's room, etc...only to find out that their baby won't survive outside the womb. Rather than trying to apply some universal standard, why not treat it on a case-by-case basis and leave the decision to each woman and her doctor?

Because if there were no legal restrictions on abortions, abortions could legally happen up until a baby takes it first breath and most people don't believe abortions that late in a pregnancy term should legal unless in an exception case such as your example of a baby that won't survive outside the womb. Most people, including pro-choice minded people like myself, agree that there should be late term abortion restrictions with exceptions for special circumstances and I'm curious to know what others thoughts are on where that cut off should be and how they came to that conclusion. Somewhere in the 25-30 weeks is a time frame I think could be reasonable but that is mostly an uneducated guess.

I think you and I are saying the same thing. A woman and her doctor should be making the decision on what counts as special circumstances and what doesn't. A bunch of old, male politicians should not.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

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This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

The GOP want abortion bans.
The Dems want pro choice protections.

These distinctions are not meaningless at all. Educate yourself about hu,na reporduction if you dont understand the difference.

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Human reproduction.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

IMG-7801


This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

So you’re a Republican. Thank you for a series of non answers that provided a very clear answer: you’re a forced birther who votes Republican and you just don’t want to answer.

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Anonymous wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Liberals think the only 2 things that exist regarding states rights are abortion and slavery. It’s tiresome.

States rights does not justify denial of basic rights.

Abortion is not a human right. It has no basis in natural law, or international treaty law.

“abortion” does not appear in any of the U.N. human rights treaties, not even in the ones that the United States has not ratified.

The U.N.’s human rights experts lack the authority to create new rights.

The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)—one of the few human rights treaties that the United States has signed and ratified—impedes their efforts. It states: “Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.”
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Article 6, paragraph 1.

The treaty prohibits the death penalty in the case of a pregnant woman, presumably to spare the innocent life of the unborn child.

If you think you have the ability to tell any women like myself or my daughters what reproductive decisions they will make, prepare to be sorely disappointed. This will not be tolerated by most women and the people that care about them, regardless of their home state. This is not your business, never has been and never will be. If you are struggling to understand this, wait until election day and it will become clear to you.

It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

Like many women, I have had a miscarriage. While it was an incredibly sad experience, it was not a death. And if a miscarriage doesn't count as a death then an abortion doesn't either.

Pregnancy loss is defined differently around the world, but in general a baby who dies before 28 weeks of pregnancy is referred to as a miscarriage, and babies who die at or after 28 weeks are stillbirths.

Are you denying your son or daughter was alive in your uterus, and then died?

I am sorry for your loss. It’s extremely traumatic to lose a child.

Every woman’s life and every child’s life is valuable.

And every decision a woman makes about her own uterus is non of your concern.

It is not just a uterus. A baby is growing.

You spelled clump of cells wrong.

You are welcome to call your growing baby a clump of cells. My husband and I were so happy each of the two times I was pregnant . Dudring each doctor visit of my pregnancy, the obstetrician referred to our baby.

This is entirely the point, yes? You're free to view it as a baby and others are not, while dependent on the mother (host) for survival. Which is why people should not be making decisions for how to deal with the baby/cell clump. You make yours and others will make theirs.

Newborn babies are usually dependent on the mother for survival as well. By your rationale child abandonment, or worse, should be totally okay, right?

Babies are not dependent on the particular person who gave birth to them once they are born. That’s how adoption is a thing. Or you know, fathers taking care of their babies. I can’t believe you actually need this explained to you.

90% of Americans are neither forced birthers (someone who doesn't believe abortion should be legal under any circumstance) or baby killers (someone that believes abortion should be legal up until the moment a a baby takes it's first breath). With R vs W being overturned, we are now left with each state determining the abortion laws applicable to their state. There is an important discussion to be had about abortion but no one seems to be interested in having that important discussion. Here goes- I've always thought of myself as pro-choice but based on my little scientific knowledge of the issue, I'm uncertain of how far along in pregnancy abortion should be legal. 25 to 30 weeks is where I feel most comfortable at this point but I could be convinced of anywhere between 20 to 35 weeks. Does my belief that there should be a point in time during a pregnancy term for which abortion is no longer legal make me pro-life or does my belief in 25-30 weeks leave me in the pro-choice camp? I'd love to hear some more productive conversation on this topic that includes numbers of weeks, scientific data, and reasons for exceptions. I'm tired of hearing people ridicule each other with an insinuation of the other person being a forced birther or baby killer. Most of us are neither but I think most of us, like me, aren't 100% sure of exactly where they stand as far as the specifics of abortion laws because we don't choose to talk about it and think about it as much we prefer to throw insults to those on the other "side" of the issue.

I encourage you to go read the stories of women who seek abortions during the late stages of pregnancy. It's incredibly sad - often they've picked out a name, set up the baby's room, etc...only to find out that their baby won't survive outside the womb. Rather than trying to apply some universal standard, why not treat it on a case-by-case basis and leave the decision to each woman and her doctor?

Because if there were no legal restrictions on abortions, abortions could legally happen up until a baby takes it first breath and most people don't believe abortions that late in a pregnancy term should legal unless in an exception case such as your example of a baby that won't survive outside the womb. Most people, including pro-choice minded people like myself, agree that there should be late term abortion restrictions with exceptions for special circumstances and I'm curious to know what others thoughts are on where that cut off should be and how they came to that conclusion. Somewhere in the 25-30 weeks is a time frame I think could be reasonable but that is mostly an uneducated guess.

I answered you at 9:55 this morning with data. You ignored it in favor of coming here and banging a drum about “late term abortion restrictions with exceptions.” That’s what we had before. The GOP had to blow it up and women are having to walk around in danger with non viable pregnancies. What reading your post feel likes is another Republican who has a mouth full of bumper and wants to go back to old comfortable conversations about the abortions that no woman wants to have and uses as a last resort rather than point out that the GOP, and indeed Trump the treasonous lech who is nominally the topic of this thread, wants to ban from the point of conception.

We’ve seen how “exceptions” work out. They’re full bans.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

IMG-7801


This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

So you’re a Republican. Thank you for a series of non answers that provided a very clear answer: you’re a forced birther who votes Republican and you just don’t want to answer.

No woman in America is forced to conceive a child. You are a deluded person who believes the corrupt politicians and political parties offer Americans anything but culture wars to distract and divide them while they enrich themselves at our expense. I am not a republican or a democrat or a conservative or a liberal. I don’t believe the political parties actually solve anything. They do not. Every election is “the most important election of our lives!” Every election comes with the tag line: “Vote like your luck depends on it, because it does!” Every candidate has a stump speech that is a soaring anthem to hope and prosperity that will be sung by all Americans, but only if they are elected.

And we continue down the same road no matter who is elected. It barely makes a difference. I don’t know if you personally benefit from this charade but it’s ludicrous and insulting that to pretend that either party has made an appreciable difference in the last 50 years.

So anyway, my point is the baby a woman conceives when she has sexual relations with a man is not the enemy. Your son or daughter didn’t ask to be conceived and should not be punished with death.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

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This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

So you’re a Republican. Thank you for a series of non answers that provided a very clear answer: you’re a forced birther who votes Republican and you just don’t want to answer.

No woman in America is forced to conceive a child. You are a deluded person who believes the corrupt politicians and political parties offer Americans anything but culture wars to distract and divide them while they enrich themselves at our expense. I am not a republican or a democrat or a conservative or a liberal. I don’t believe the political parties actually solve anything. They do not. Every election is “the most important election of our lives!” Every election comes with the tag line: “Vote like your luck depends on it, because it does!” Every candidate has a stump speech that is a soaring anthem to hope and prosperity that will be sung by all Americans, but only if they are elected.

And we continue down the same road no matter who is elected. It barely makes a difference. I don’t know if you personally benefit from this charade but it’s ludicrous and insulting that to pretend that either party has made an appreciable difference in the last 50 years.

So anyway, my point is the baby a woman conceives when she has sexual relations with a man is not the enemy. Your son or daughter didn’t ask to be conceived and should not be punished with death.

You seem very ignorant about this process. There are very many issues and things that go wrong. You don't need to be involved in this for other women. You just concern yourself with your own reproductive matters.

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Anonymous wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Liberals think the only 2 things that exist regarding states rights are abortion and slavery. It’s tiresome.

States rights does not justify denial of basic rights.

Abortion is not a human right. It has no basis in natural law, or international treaty law.

“abortion” does not appear in any of the U.N. human rights treaties, not even in the ones that the United States has not ratified.

The U.N.’s human rights experts lack the authority to create new rights.

The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)—one of the few human rights treaties that the United States has signed and ratified—impedes their efforts. It states: “Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.”
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Article 6, paragraph 1.

The treaty prohibits the death penalty in the case of a pregnant woman, presumably to spare the innocent life of the unborn child.

If you think you have the ability to tell any women like myself or my daughters what reproductive decisions they will make, prepare to be sorely disappointed. This will not be tolerated by most women and the people that care about them, regardless of their home state. This is not your business, never has been and never will be. If you are struggling to understand this, wait until election day and it will become clear to you.

It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

Like many women, I have had a miscarriage. While it was an incredibly sad experience, it was not a death. And if a miscarriage doesn't count as a death then an abortion doesn't either.

Pregnancy loss is defined differently around the world, but in general a baby who dies before 28 weeks of pregnancy is referred to as a miscarriage, and babies who die at or after 28 weeks are stillbirths.

Are you denying your son or daughter was alive in your uterus, and then died?

I am sorry for your loss. It’s extremely traumatic to lose a child.

Every woman’s life and every child’s life is valuable.

And every decision a woman makes about her own uterus is non of your concern.

It is not just a uterus. A baby is growing.

You spelled clump of cells wrong.

You are welcome to call your growing baby a clump of cells. My husband and I were so happy each of the two times I was pregnant . Dudring each doctor visit of my pregnancy, the obstetrician referred to our baby.

This is entirely the point, yes? You're free to view it as a baby and others are not, while dependent on the mother (host) for survival. Which is why people should not be making decisions for how to deal with the baby/cell clump. You make yours and others will make theirs.

Newborn babies are usually dependent on the mother for survival as well. By your rationale child abandonment, or worse, should be totally okay, right?

Babies are not dependent on the particular person who gave birth to them once they are born. That’s how adoption is a thing. Or you know, fathers taking care of their babies. I can’t believe you actually need this explained to you.

90% of Americans are neither forced birthers (someone who doesn't believe abortion should be legal under any circumstance) or baby killers (someone that believes abortion should be legal up until the moment a a baby takes it's first breath). With R vs W being overturned, we are now left with each state determining the abortion laws applicable to their state. There is an important discussion to be had about abortion but no one seems to be interested in having that important discussion. Here goes- I've always thought of myself as pro-choice but based on my little scientific knowledge of the issue, I'm uncertain of how far along in pregnancy abortion should be legal. 25 to 30 weeks is where I feel most comfortable at this point but I could be convinced of anywhere between 20 to 35 weeks. Does my belief that there should be a point in time during a pregnancy term for which abortion is no longer legal make me pro-life or does my belief in 25-30 weeks leave me in the pro-choice camp? I'd love to hear some more productive conversation on this topic that includes numbers of weeks, scientific data, and reasons for exceptions. I'm tired of hearing people ridicule each other with an insinuation of the other person being a forced birther or baby killer. Most of us are neither but I think most of us, like me, aren't 100% sure of exactly where they stand as far as the specifics of abortion laws because we don't choose to talk about it and think about it as much we prefer to throw insults to those on the other "side" of the issue.

I encourage you to go read the stories of women who seek abortions during the late stages of pregnancy. It's incredibly sad - often they've picked out a name, set up the baby's room, etc...only to find out that their baby won't survive outside the womb. Rather than trying to apply some universal standard, why not treat it on a case-by-case basis and leave the decision to each woman and her doctor?

Because if there were no legal restrictions on abortions, abortions could legally happen up until a baby takes it first breath and most people don't believe abortions that late in a pregnancy term should legal unless in an exception case such as your example of a baby that won't survive outside the womb. Most people, including pro-choice minded people like myself, agree that there should be late term abortion restrictions with exceptions for special circumstances and I'm curious to know what others thoughts are on where that cut off should be and how they came to that conclusion. Somewhere in the 25-30 weeks is a time frame I think could be reasonable but that is mostly an uneducated guess.

I answered you at 9:55 this morning with data. You ignored it in favor of coming here and banging a drum about “late term abortion restrictions with exceptions.” That’s what we had before. The GOP had to blow it up and women are having to walk around in danger with non viable pregnancies. What reading your post feel likes is another Republican who has a mouth full of bumper and wants to go back to old comfortable conversations about the abortions that no woman wants to have and uses as a last resort rather than point out that the GOP, and indeed Trump the treasonous lech who is nominally the topic of this thread, wants to ban from the point of conception.

We’ve seen how “exceptions” work out. They’re full bans.

Ummm... None of us can help the fact that R v W was overturned. This is the hand we were dealt. Now that it is what it is and new abortion laws are inevitably in the works, the discussion is necessary. Up to what point in time during a pregnancy should abortion be legal for the small percentage of late term abortions involving a healthy mother and fetus? I mentioned 25-30 weeks but I really don't know the science behind determining these specifics of an abortion law. If you have no thoughts or opinions on that, no problem. Hopefully someone will. It's feasible to have a healthy discussion about this without it being an argument.

[Anonymous]

The GOP voters can't seem to grasp any complexity regarding reproduction issues. Everything is reduced to a simplistic little "pro life" phrase. So ignorant. Complicated decisions about fertility and reproduction are private and are for a woman and her doctor or the people she chooses to invite into the matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

IMG-7801


This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

So you’re a Republican. Thank you for a series of non answers that provided a very clear answer: you’re a forced birther who votes Republican and you just don’t want to answer.

No woman in America is forced to conceive a child. You are a deluded person who believes the corrupt politicians and political parties offer Americans anything but culture wars to distract and divide them while they enrich themselves at our expense. I am not a republican or a democrat or a conservative or a liberal. I don’t believe the political parties actually solve anything. They do not. Every election is “the most important election of our lives!” Every election comes with the tag line: “Vote like your luck depends on it, because it does!” Every candidate has a stump speech that is a soaring anthem to hope and prosperity that will be sung by all Americans, but only if they are elected.

And we continue down the same road no matter who is elected. It barely makes a difference. I don’t know if you personally benefit from this charade but it’s ludicrous and insulting that to pretend that either party has made an appreciable difference in the last 50 years.

So anyway, my point is the baby a woman conceives when she has sexual relations with a man is not the enemy. Your son or daughter didn’t ask to be conceived and should not be punished with death.

You seem very ignorant about this process. There are very many issues and things that go wrong. You don't need to be involved in this for other women. You just concern yourself with your own reproductive matters.

The death of a baby is not a reproductive matter. Both mothers and babies should be cared for and loved. I don’t agree with pro-life advocates who focus solely on the life of the baby, because a baby needs their mother. The mother and baby are equally valuable. I wish I had a magic wand to create a solution to this very troubling problem.

I want every woman to have whatever birth control that she wants for free, so she can easily prevent pregnancy. There are many types of birth control that are virtually 100% effective, there should be almost no unplanned pregnancies in our country.

If a woman experiences an unplanned pregnancy, my plea is to not make her son or daughter suffer the consequence by losing their life. Too many women I have counseled and spoken with become overwhelmed with regret and guilt when they speak of killing their baby through abortion. So many have the date of the abortion forever in their brain, and each year they silently remember the birthday of their aborted child and wonder what their child would look like, who that child would have become before their eyes. One of my dearest friends from college had 2 abortions during her college years. I accompanied her both times to the clinic and helped her through the process. I love my friend and care about her deeply. She always was a person who was sad about her abortions but had a list of why she could not keep her babies. She sounded like she thought she was doing the right thing. She had a complete breakdown one day in public about her abortions and I was overwhelmed by the pain she displayed in front of a group of mothers and children. She openly shared with almost strangers that she regretted what she has done. As her close friend I didn’t understand why she had not even mentioned this to me but out of the blue became emotional and sad in front of people she really didn’t know. She later admitted to me she resents me for helping her get her abortions. I was upset because I thought I was doing the right thing by supporting her. I didn’t try to convince her to keep her babies and at the time she was so emotionally overwhelmed her only thought was to “get rid” of her pregnancies.

I do not want any woman to live with those kinds of issues, I would a million times over want every woman to prevent pregnancy.

If a woman has an abortion, the terms should not be spoken of in neutral, cold, clinical language to sterilize the abortion and make it seem like a medical procedure. The procedure ends the life of your innocent son or daughter, make no mistake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad that women kill their own babies. Your daughters are killing their own daughters via abortion. Those are your granddaughters being aborted. Why wouldn’t women rather use birth control? Prevent the pregnancy. Many forms of birth control prevent pregnancy at a rate of 99.9-100%. When a child is aborted because it’s inconvenient, it’s not a reproductive decision. The choice to reproduce has already been made, and the woman is not taking the consequence; the unborn child is. The child loses life. The child didn’t ask to be conceived and had no role in the conception. Your daughter, son, granddaughter, or grandson is killed and you don’t have an ounce of care for their life. They are disposable. Human life should not be disposable. I have no doubt millions and millions of women will come out in force to vote for their “right” to kill their own child because it is more convenient for them to do so than to prevent pregnancy.

People care about pregnant women and their unborn baby. It’s not just the woman that deserves care and compassion, but her unborn baby. Both the mother and child are valuable and deserve to be protected and respected.

No one seems to connect the dots that they are killing their son or daughter when they have an abortion. It’s really very sad. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the world.

In 2023, abortion was the leading cause of death, worldwide.

IMG-7801


This post is fantastic!
Please please please push this message into the fall. The American people need to hear what you stand for. It will help make their decision so much easier.

Yes; please do. Your life is precious and valuable. So are the lives of your children. Every pregnant woman should be cared for and receive help and love from every segment of society and both mother and baby cherished.

[…]

Talk is cheap. You’re a forced birther who votes for the party that denies anything that would improve lives.

Not at all. Mothers, children, babies, families, etc, deserve the highest level of financial support and government assistance. I want our government to support every single mother and baby with everything possible. Women, their babies and children, should not want for anything in a country as wealthy as ours. The support should include secondary education, medical care, food assistance, housing assistance, everything possible. Nothing is more worthy of our tax dollars than supporting families.

And you vote for…

I often am unable to vote. I […]

So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for?

Party affiliation is meaningless; both parties are really a uni-party that exists to maintain their power. Personal power and party power. They use social and cultural issues to sow dissent and divide the American people. They really don’t care about the issues as long as they can make us mad at each other, make us donate money to them, and keep getting elected.

Notice all the elected officials who have been in office for decades and make roughly $100k per year that are muti-millionaires with huge real estate portfolios and investment accounts. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we argue and debate.

So you’re a Republican. Thank you for a series of non answers that provided a very clear answer: you’re a forced birther who votes Republican and you just don’t want to answer.

No woman in America is forced to conceive a child. You are a deluded person who believes the corrupt politicians and political parties offer Americans anything but culture wars to distract and divide them while they enrich themselves at our expense. I am not a republican or a democrat or a conservative or a liberal. I don’t believe the political parties actually solve anything. They do not. Every election is “the most important election of our lives!” Every election comes with the tag line: “Vote like your luck depends on it, because it does!” Every candidate has a stump speech that is a soaring anthem to hope and prosperity that will be sung by all Americans, but only if they are elected.

And we continue down the same road no matter who is elected. It barely makes a difference. I don’t know if you personally benefit from this charade but it’s ludicrous and insulting that to pretend that either party has made an appreciable difference in the last 50 years.

So anyway, my point is the baby a woman conceives when she has sexual relations with a man is not the enemy. Your son or daughter didn’t ask to be conceived and should not be punished with death.

You seem very ignorant about this process. There are very many issues and things that go wrong. You don't need to be involved in this for other women. You just concern yourself with your own reproductive matters.

The death of a baby is not a reproductive matter. Both mothers and babies should be cared for and loved. I don’t agree with pro-life advocates who focus solely on the life of the baby, because a baby needs their mother. The mother and baby are equally valuable. I wish I had a magic wand to create a solution to this very troubling problem.

I want every woman to have whatever birth control that she wants for free, so she can easily prevent pregnancy. There are many types of birth control that are virtually 100% effective, there should be almost no unplanned pregnancies in our country.

If a woman experiences an unplanned pregnancy, my plea is to not make her son or daughter suffer the consequence by losing their life. Too many women I have counseled and spoken with become overwhelmed with regret and guilt when they speak of killing their baby through abortion. So many have the date of the abortion forever in their brain, and each year they silently remember the birthday of their aborted child and wonder what their child would look like, who that child would have become before their eyes. One of my dearest friends from college had 2 abortions during her college years. I accompanied her both times to the clinic and helped her through the process. I love my friend and care about her deeply. She always was a person who was sad about her abortions but had a list of why she could not keep her babies. She sounded like she thought she was doing the right thing. She had a complete breakdown one day in public about her abortions and I was overwhelmed by the pain she displayed in front of a group of mothers and children. She openly shared with almost strangers that she regretted what she has done. As her close friend I didn’t understand why she had not even mentioned this to me but out of the blue became emotional and sad in front of people she really didn’t know. She later admitted to me she resents me for helping her get her abortions. I was upset because I thought I was doing the right thing by supporting her. I didn’t try to convince her to keep her babies and at the time she was so emotionally overwhelmed her only thought was to “get rid” of her pregnancies.

I do not want any woman to live with those kinds of issues, I would a million times over want every woman to prevent pregnancy.

If a woman has an abortion, the terms should not be spoken of in neutral, cold, clinical language to sterilize the abortion and make it seem like a medical procedure. The procedure ends the life of your innocent son or daughter, make no mistake.

You do you. You will not impose your view onto others that don't share it without the heck of a fight we are now having.

The por choice side will win as it allows you to have your view and others to have different and equally valid views

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The GOP voters can't seem to grasp any complexity regarding reproduction issues. Everything is reduced to a simplistic little "pro life" phrase. So ignorant. Complicated decisions about fertility and reproduction are private and are for a woman and her doctor or the people she chooses to invite into the matter.

I hear baby killer and forced birther a lot more than I hear people having a civil discussion about an abortion law that can hopefully make sense to the majority. A very small percentage of people feel that that abortion in any and all circumstances should be illegal or that abortion should be legal in any and all circumstances until a baby takes it first breath. This complicated decision is a private matter to be discussed between a woman and her doctor but for everyone that isn't a forced birther or baby killer, there is discussion and debate to be had on the specifics of an abortion law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The GOP voters can't seem to grasp any complexity regarding reproduction issues. Everything is reduced to a simplistic little "pro life" phrase. So ignorant. Complicated decisions about fertility and reproduction are private and are for a woman and her doctor or the people she chooses to invite into the matter.

I hear baby killer and forced birther a lot more than I hear people having a civil discussion about an abortion law that can hopefully make sense to the majority. A very small percentage of people feel that that abortion in any and all circumstances should be illegal or that abortion should be legal in any and all circumstances until a baby takes it first breath. This complicated decision is a private matter to be discussed between a woman and her doctor but for everyone that isn't a forced birther or baby killer, there is discussion and debate to be had on the specifics of an abortion law.

We had the protections of roe for 50 years and we need to return to that.