
You spelled clump of cells wrong. |
Please. You’re a clump of cells, then. |
So an embryo has the same exact rights as a full grown woman? |
You are welcome to call your growing baby a clump of cells. My husband and I were so happy each of the two times I was pregnant . Dudring each doctor visit of my pregnancy, the obstetrician referred to our baby. |
Good for you. For other people, a fetus is a fetus until viability. Either way, someone else's body is not your concern. Move along. |
This is entirely the point, yes? You're free to view it as a baby and others are not, while dependent on the mother (host) for survival. Which is why people should not be making decisions for how to deal with the baby/cell clump. You make yours and others will make theirs. |
I often am unable to vote. I will not vote for the sake of voting. I vote for people who believe that human life is precious, not disposable, and support women and families and babies. I think every day about the babies who never get a chance to live because their mothers are alone, scared, unsupported, unable to support themselves much less support their unborn child. The mother needs to be supported and loved, cared for and protected. Her daughter or son deserves to be protected. Her daughter or son deserves a chance to choose their own path in life and be the unique and special human being that they are destined to be. I think of the artists, the inventors, the doctors, the writers, the engineers, you name it, that have been killed by their own mothers because their mothers were unable to care for them and society has made it very easy to kill a child. Those babies were capable of incredible things! We will never know what they could have achieved and created. We don’t even pause to consider that the child is our daughter. The child is our son. They are part of us and we them. I experienced an unwanted pregnancy and had no support, no money, no help. I thought my way out was abortion, I made the appointment, I unexpectedly came into enough money to pay for the abortion. I felt “saved “ from the horrible problem that had suddenly been foisted upon me. (I actually was having sex and gave no thought to using birth control.) I couldn’t go through with it. Something made me consider the fact that the baby inside me was my son or daughter. I struggled throughout the pregnancy financially and emotionally, but the night my son was born (I gave birth alone, no one was there in the delivery room with me) I fell in love with him the very second I heard his cry. The nurse who cleaned him and handed him to me said he smiled at her, she said she had never had a baby smile at her while she was cleaning them before. I thought in my head, he’s happy to be in the world, he’s happy to be alive and meet us all. I vote for women and their babies. |
A pregnant woman is a mother, not a host. Your words try to distance you from reality, because admitting the truth is too uncomfortable and painful. |
The mother keeps her body; her son or daughter loses their body and life. I want both mother and child to keep their bodies and lives and live in a world that loves and protects them both. |
Ok, I’ll play. Name your “real” candidate. Not just a hypothetical. What “real” candidate can match Trumps name recognition or Biden’s accomplishments? Either give us a name or sit down. |
Newborn babies are usually dependent on the mother for survival as well. By your rationale child abandonment, or worse, should be totally okay, right? |
So when you are able to get yourself sorted to vote, which party do you vote for? |
Babies are not dependent on the particular person who gave birth to them once they are born. That’s how adoption is a thing. Or you know, fathers taking care of their babies. I can’t believe you actually need this explained to you. |
90% of Americans are neither forced birthers (someone who doesn't believe abortion should be legal under any circumstance) or baby killers (someone that believes abortion should be legal up until the moment a a baby takes it's first breath). With R vs W being overturned, we are now left with each state determining the abortion laws applicable to their state. There is an important discussion to be had about abortion but no one seems to be interested in having that important discussion. Here goes- I've always thought of myself as pro-choice but based on my little scientific knowledge of the issue, I'm uncertain of how far along in pregnancy abortion should be legal. 25 to 30 weeks is where I feel most comfortable at this point but I could be convinced of anywhere between 20 to 35 weeks. Does my belief that there should be a point in time during a pregnancy term for which abortion is no longer legal make me pro-life or does my belief in 25-30 weeks leave me in the pro-choice camp? I'd love to hear some more productive conversation on this topic that includes numbers of weeks, scientific data, and reasons for exceptions. I'm tired of hearing people ridicule each other with an insinuation of the other person being a forced birther or baby killer. Most of us are neither but I think most of us, like me, aren't 100% sure of exactly where they stand as far as the specifics of abortion laws because we don't choose to talk about it and think about it as much we prefer to throw insults to those on the other "side" of the issue. |
I encourage you to go read the stories of women who seek abortions during the late stages of pregnancy. It's incredibly sad - often they've picked out a name, set up the baby's room, etc...only to find out that their baby won't survive outside the womb. Rather than trying to apply some universal standard, why not treat it on a case-by-case basis and leave the decision to each woman and her doctor? |