Supreme Court Is Asked to Hear a New Admissions Case on Race

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with new admission, middle income as well as low-income Asian students are subject to racial quota limit. As the texts show, the evil board's goal was to bring down the overall asian student strength from 73% to 54.36%, and that's what was accomplished. If the intention was to do outreach and bring-in additional low-income asian students, the asian american representation would have gone over 73%, not below. There was no outreach effort targeting low-income asian students in the past, present, or any planned for future. The evil eyes had one target and one focus, reduce the Asian student strength.




Except that's false since that never happened. Asians, who make up 15% of the county, are the majority in these programs. To claim they're being treated unfairly by a race-blind selection process is frankly unhinged.


This idiot is brainwashed and programmed to repeat this lie, and ignore the fact that asian american representation went from 73% to 54% in just one admission cycle.

Can someone else explain why and how is it illegal and unconstitutional to suppress students of one race and replace them with students of other races for political gain?





I mean, I am just a dumb non-Asian but even I know that 54% is still a majority.

Where in the Constitution are Asians given a right to exclusive use of public goods like special education programs?

I mean, personally, I think we should just abolish programs like TJ. Tax money shouldn’t pay for that, especially if it’s monopolized be a certain group.


Imagine TJ was 70% black. Do you think the school board would have done anything to reduce the numbers?


They didn't do anything to reduce the numbers here. They worked to improve numbers from underrepresented groups. Had the new stats been 70% Asian, 10% white, 10% Black, and 10% Hispanic, FCPS would have thrown a party to celebrate.

You are trying to make it about Asian students when it was not about Asian students. Asian students would not have borne the brunt of the changes to the admissions process had the previous process not handed them so many structural and cultural advantages.


Asians were actually disadvantaged. FCPS tried several times before the current admission change and each time FCPS tried to reduce the Asian numbers. Black and Hispanic students were already receiving preferences under the old admission system just like the system for UC. UC adopted a plan to increase black student numbers by instructing the readers to give preference to black applicants. TJ had the similar system where they would give a bump to URMs.


The fact that there are people who actually believe this shows just how deep the Asian supremacy and the Black animus goes.


You may be totally right, but the ‘you ought to be ashamed of yourself’ attitude definitely doesn’t help your argument.
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"The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing."


Take away fron FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We dont want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middleschool. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."


+1 racial profiling in schools


That would be a real challenge for the race-blind selection process where they don't know an applicant's race.
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Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1
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Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


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Anonymous wrote:

"The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing."


Take away fron FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We dont want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middleschool. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."


+1 racial profiling in schools


That would be a real challenge for the race-blind selection process where they don't know an applicant's race.


Yes, the race-blind selection negates these claims as having any basis in reality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The NAACP was threatening another.lawsuit against TJ and the school board so they thought.the.changes would avoid it, but instead they got another one from the other side. They honestly thought Asians in NOVA would just take it.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

"The new admissions process was meant to target Asian American students, and school board members knew what they were doing."


Take away fron FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We dont want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middleschool. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."


+1 racial profiling in schools


That would be a real challenge for the race-blind selection process where they don't know an applicant's race.


Yes, the race-blind selection negates these claims as having any basis in reality.


Yep
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Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.
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Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.


Incredibly, a race-blind process is overwhelming in selecting Asian students for TJ. As a group, they seem to be doing better than any other group in terms of TJ selection. Just don't see the problem here.
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Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.


Incredibly, a race-blind process is overwhelming in selecting Asian students for TJ. As a group, they seem to be doing better than any other group in terms of TJ selection. Just don't see the problem here.


It's similar to saying that when UVA went co-ed, the number of male students declined, which indicates gender bias. The process was so overwhelming skewed towards Asians that any change however fair would result in a decrease.
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Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.


Incredibly, a race-blind process is overwhelming in selecting Asian students for TJ. As a group, they seem to be doing better than any other group in terms of TJ selection. Just don't see the problem here.


It's similar to saying that when UVA went co-ed, the number of male students declined, which indicates gender bias. The process was so overwhelming skewed towards Asians that any change however fair would result in a decrease.


I'm glad that students throughout the county now have a shot at these opportunities, not just those from wealthy schools. I even read the group whose enrollment increased the most because of these changes were low-income Asians.
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Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.


Incredibly, a race-blind process is overwhelming in selecting Asian students for TJ. As a group, they seem to be doing better than any other group in terms of TJ selection. Just don't see the problem here.


What was the point of quoting this article? It’s not even accurate—the allocation of admissions are not spread evenly across the feeder schools. Each feeder school is guaranteed a number of seats equal to 1.5 percent of its 8th grade population, but there are still a large number of seats that are open to the top qualifying students based on the selection criteria, regardless of which school they attend. In fact, one of the changes in the new admissions process was to increase the total number of seats, to help compensate for the fact that a subset of seats would be allocated to each middle school.
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with new admission, middle income as well as low-income Asian students are subject to racial quota limit. As the texts show, the evil board's goal was to bring down the overall asian student strength from 73% to 54.36%, and that's what was accomplished. If the intention was to do outreach and bring-in additional low-income asian students, the asian american representation would have gone over 73%, not below. There was no outreach effort targeting low-income asian students in the past, present, or any planned for future. The evil eyes had one target and one focus, reduce the Asian student strength.




Except that's false since that never happened. Asians, who make up 15% of the county, are the majority in these programs. To claim they're being treated unfairly by a race-blind selection process is frankly unhinged.


This idiot is brainwashed and programmed to repeat this lie, and ignore the fact that asian american representation went from 73% to 54% in just one admission cycle.

Can someone else explain why and how is it illegal and unconstitutional to suppress students of one race and replace them with students of other races for political gain?





I mean, I am just a dumb non-Asian but even I know that 54% is still a majority.

Where in the Constitution are Asians given a right to exclusive use of public goods like special education programs?

I mean, personally, I think we should just abolish programs like TJ. Tax money shouldn’t pay for that, especially if it’s monopolized be a certain group.


Imagine TJ was 70% black. Do you think the school board would have done anything to reduce the numbers?


They didn't do anything to reduce the numbers here. They worked to improve numbers from underrepresented groups. Had the new stats been 70% Asian, 10% white, 10% Black, and 10% Hispanic, FCPS would have thrown a party to celebrate.

You are trying to make it about Asian students when it was not about Asian students. Asian students would not have borne the brunt of the changes to the admissions process had the previous process not handed them so many structural and cultural advantages.


Asians were actually disadvantaged. FCPS tried several times before the current admission change and each time FCPS tried to reduce the Asian numbers. Black and Hispanic students were already receiving preferences under the old admission system just like the system for UC. UC adopted a plan to increase black student numbers by instructing the readers to give preference to black applicants. TJ had the similar system where they would give a bump to URMs.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.


This constitutes racial oppression of asian american students bring their number.
Unfortunately, some idiots here attempt to rationalize by citing asian american are still more than half so the racial suppression from 73% to 54% is justified, which is as racist as it would be to forcibly exclude a few African Americans from the NBA and justifying it by claiming they are still the majority.

Going after strength of any particular race is racist, and constitutes racial oppression, whether it is blacks in NBA or asian americans at TJ. No more racial attacks by evil forces in authoritative positions.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take away from FCPS Board's actions to an Asian American student applicant: "We don't want to know how hard you studied Math, English, and Science in middle school. Hence, you will not be given a STEM evaluation test. However, your evaluation will be based on your skin color, and there are already too many of your kind at TJ."

+1


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/supreme-court-asked-to-weigh-in-on-prestigious-virginia-schools-allegedly-race-conscious-admissions-policies/

In 2020, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Va., overhauled its admission standards following the murder of George Floyd. Among the policies enacted at the time were the removal of standardized entry tests and the allocation of admissions evenly across the system’s feeder schools, rather than taking the top applicants across the entire district. Consequently, Asian-American student enrollment nosedived from 73 percent to 54 percent the first year the changes went into effect while Hispanic and black representation grew exponentially.


This constitutes racial oppression of asian american students bring their number.
Unfortunately, some idiots here attempt to rationalize by citing asian american are still more than half so the racial suppression from 73% to 54% is justified, which is as racist as it would be to forcibly exclude a few African Americans from the NBA and justifying it by claiming they are still the majority.

Going after strength of any particular race is racist, and constitutes racial oppression, whether it is blacks in NBA or asian americans at TJ. No more racial attacks by evil forces in authoritative positions.


If a decrease in enrollment constitutes oppression, returning to 74% would constitute racial oppression (whatever that means) of other groups.
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