Supreme Court Is Asked to Hear a New Admissions Case on Race

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

Anti-asian brainwashed morons repeat the same three phrases: Curie, test buying, and wealthy Asians. No different from repetitive barking of annoying street hounds.

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Y'all will like some of the other reasons for the admissions change, the culture of cutthroat competitiveness and cheating inside the school by the students there, even less.

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Anonymous wrote:i am thinking to signup my child in curie. what elementary grade right to join there? my child already good at maths but want to get better.

Earlier the better. 1st grade.

child 3rd grade. curie told placement test when first visit, and then start. thanks.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Not all that different than the Curie clients who keep trying to cover it up.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

Anti-asian brainwashed morons repeat the same three phrases: Curie, test buying, and wealthy Asians. No different from repetitive barking of annoying street hounds.

+1

Y'all will like some of the other reasons for the admissions change, the culture of cutthroat competitiveness and cheating inside the school by the students there, even less.

+1

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.

They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.

Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?

Students who paid for advanced copies of the test questions seem more dishonest than meritorious.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.

They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.

Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?

There is a big difference between a public school disclosing the names of students who won awards and a private entity letting the world know who paid money for their services. If you can't understand that, there's not much value in your participation in this conversation.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.

They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.

Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?

Students who paid for advanced copies of the test questions seem more dishonest than meritorious.

Advanced copies of Quant-Q and Act Aspire stem tests?

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

Anti-asian brainwashed morons repeat the same three phrases: Curie, test buying, and wealthy Asians. No different from repetitive barking of annoying street hounds.

+1

Y'all will like some of the other reasons for the admissions change, the culture of cutthroat competitiveness and cheating inside the school by the students there, even less.

Not sure if you know, but there are cheaters in every school and every situation.

Just because the admission process changed doesn’t mean that cheating is resolved. You remove some cheaters and gain some others.

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Anonymous wrote:Incredible that some of you are still fighting to remove Black kids from TJ. It's 2023 not 1960.

Nobody wants to remove black kids. We don't want any discrimination against any racial or ethnic group.

Then the current way is good. Glad we settled that.

The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 74% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

Anti-asian brainwashed morons repeat the same three phrases: Curie, test buying, and wealthy Asians. No different from repetitive barking of annoying street hounds.

+1

Y'all will like some of the other reasons for the admissions change, the culture of cutthroat competitiveness and cheating inside the school by the students there, even less.

Not sure if you know, but there are cheaters in every school and every situation.

Just because the admission process changed doesn’t mean that cheating is resolved. You remove some cheaters and gain some others.

My neighbor who has two kids there says it's a lot less toxic and much more collaborative because of the changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Incredible that some of you are still fighting to remove Black kids from TJ. It's 2023 not 1960.

Nobody wants to remove black kids. We don't want any discrimination against any racial or ethnic group.

Then the current way is good. Glad we settled that.

The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 74% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

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An exchange with regard to a policy change that was never even voted on isn't relevant to a race-blind admission process.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.

They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.

Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?

Students who paid for advanced copies of the test questions seem more dishonest than meritorious.

Advanced copies of Quant-Q and Act Aspire stem tests?

They had been conducting exit interviews of students after taking these tests in order to compile a question bank. Some claimed that it was so good that they had even seen many of the same questions ahead of time.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.

They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.

Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?

Students who paid for advanced copies of the test questions seem more dishonest than meritorious.

Advanced copies of Quant-Q and Act Aspire stem tests?

They had been conducting exit interviews of students after taking these tests in order to compile a question bank. Some claimed that it was so good that they had even seen many of the same questions ahead of time.

You have been spinning this conspiracy theory against asian americans without a shred of evidence. Is there a single published source for these racist lies?

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."

That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.

So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.

Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.

They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.

Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?

Students who paid for advanced copies of the test questions seem more dishonest than meritorious.

Advanced copies of Quant-Q and Act Aspire stem tests?

They had been conducting exit interviews of students after taking these tests in order to compile a question bank. Some claimed that it was so good that they had even seen many of the same questions ahead of time.

You have been spinning this conspiracy theory against asian americans without a shred of evidence. Is there a single published source for these racist lies?

DP here. I don’t have a published source for this, but I have a child who graduated from TJ and friends who taught there. Both my child and my teacher friends have told me that it was very common for students to memorize questions from tests and report them to their tutors so that the tutors could compile a bank of questions for the various classes. My friends who taught there told me about it a number of years before my child went there.

My teacher friends at TJ told me that they had learned from their students that different cultures have different models of what is considered “cheating.” Some of the actions that Americans consider “cheating” are not considered such by other world cultures, but are rather considered to be “collaborative learning.” Some cultures consider students working together to share what they know to be a stronger learning system than the model of expecting each student to do their own work. It’s just a different way of looking at the process of learning.

Some of the parents were open to the idea that you have to accept the rules of the country/culture where you are, and some were not. Some believed very strongly in the system they had grown up and been educated in and saw that as the best way for their own children to learn. To them, the idea of students memorizing questions and sharing with other was simply a good and efficient way to learn- they did not think of it as cheating. They had no intent to cheat, they only wanted their children to learn and do well in school.