Supreme Court Is Asked to Hear a New Admissions Case on Race

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.


I'm all for outside enrichment, but I don't feel it should confer an advantage for admission to programs paid for with public funds. These should benefit all residents, not just those who can afford enrichemnt.
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i am thinking to signup my child in curie. what elementary grade right to join there? my child already good at maths but want to get better.
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Anonymous wrote:i am thinking to signup my child in curie. what elementary grade right to join there? my child already good at maths but want to get better.


Earlier the better. 1st grade.
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.


about 15% to 18 % from Loudoun, varies slightly each year
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS needs to just follow Arlington's lead and withdraw from the magnet. Let Loudon deal with it


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Do you think the new board members representing districts who go from having constituents at TJ back to having almost none are going to be inclined to support or fund it? When a magnet school only serves students coming from a few pyramids, what incentive is there for the rest of the county to support it?


TJ is supported by several counties and city not just FCPS. It is a Governor's School not fcps school. FCPS merely operates it on behalf of the Virginia.


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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


Publishing the names of top performers in national and statewide exams is a common practice worldwide, including FCPS which discloses the names of its National Merit Semifinalists, with students first and last name. Many of those student names are of Asian origin. If Curie is confident in its enrichment program and shares the names of its meritorious students with their consent, how is it different from what FCPS does?
It appears you hold negative bias against South Asians, Indians, and Curie. This encompasses nearly two billion people, or roughly 1 in 4 individuals on planet Earth. That's a lot of heavy hate to harbor. Is there truly nothing positive you can say about even a single asian american student?
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Anonymous wrote:Discrimination based on race is unacceptable. It is unconstitutional to prevent a young African American from playing basketball at the county gym simply because there are already other kids with the same skin color inside. Denying admission based on a child''s skin color is a racist act. Similarly, it is both unconstitutional and discriminatory to deny entry to an Asian American student into a public STEM school just because there are already many students enrolled with the same skin color as theirs.


Good thing that’s not happening here.
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


I'm okay with kids going to Curie for enrichment they might not otherwise get, but I draw the line at it being a golden ticket for TJ admissions. The thing that's great about the new process is the selection is spread out and not constrained to a few wealthy schools.


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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

Anti-asian brainwashed morons repeat the same three phrases: Curie, test buying, and wealthy Asians. No different from repetitive barking of annoying street hounds.

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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.


about 15% to 18 % from Loudoun, varies slightly each year


Then it wasn't just some kids from Loudon since Curie's ad claimed they account for 30% of TJ's entering class that year.
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.


I'm all for outside enrichment, but I don't feel it should confer an advantage for admission to programs paid for with public funds. These should benefit all residents, not just those who can afford enrichemnt.


Compiling a list of test questions for their customers was why they had to rethink the selection process. Places like Cuire made it too easy to game for those who can afford to spend a few grand on enrichment.
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.


I'm all for outside enrichment, but I don't feel it should confer an advantage for admission to programs paid for with public funds. These should benefit all residents, not just those who can afford enrichemnt.


Compiling a list of test questions for their customers was why they had to rethink the selection process. Places like Cuire made it too easy to game for those who can afford to spend a few grand on enrichment.

Brainwashed nonsense again! Curie was compiling a list of questions for Quant-Q third-party test, with practice workbooks already available in on Amazon?
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The Fairfax County School Board members exchanged messages saying that Asian numbers should go down... The US District Court found as a matter of factual finding that the school system had racially discriminatory intent (messages) and that 'disparate impact' (Asian students going from about 73% to 54%) was established and ruled the new admission system unconstitutional as being discriminatory against Asians.

Does the amicus brief mention the Asian student suppression from 73% to 54%? Link?

yes, it does. But I cant find the link at the moment. It is signed by 20 state Attorney Generals, that empathically call out and ask the highest court to reject the Asian American suppression at schools across America.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-170/280287/20230922163615622_23-170%20Coalition%20for%20TJ%20v.%20FCSB%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Virginia%20and%2020%20Other%20States_final.pdf

The whole 1.5% quota idea was invented to reduce the Asian American students being admitted into TJ. This 1.5% notion doesn't hold water because the bottom five FCPS schools scoff at the unsolicited TJ offers being thrown their way, given that their schools provide little to no preparation for success in basic honors classes, let alone coping with the demanding rigor of TJ.

It was well known that "Asian-American applicants are differently situated because they disproportionately attend a handful of gifted centers that have disproportionately high percentages of eligible applicants. These centers draw middle-school students from multiple schools who have scored highly on aptitude tests and offer them advanced classes. The 1.5% set-aside thus “disproportionately forces Asian-American students to compete against more eligible and interested applicants” attending these top gifted centers, rather than competing against all students."


That's complete nonsense. It was invented to allow all students to participate rather than just those at the wealthy schools who invest heavily in prep and test buying to-game admissions. Further, the largest beneficiary of this change was low-income Asian families.


So true before the change 80% of the students came from the same 3 schools where the kids all attended places like Cuire for years to give the illusion of giftedness, but now actual gifted kids from less affluent school are getting in. This drives many of the elitists crazy but it's good that more of the county is able to participate in these programs not just children of the wealthy.

This Curie hating fool may never grasp how repeated mentioning of their name actually contributes to the promotion of the Curie brand.


Weren’t the Curie kids mostly Indian students from Loudoun? The hater just conflates everything they didn’t like about TJ to fit a particular narrative.


They were entirely South Asian students (to include a few Pakistani and Bangladeshi). Most were from Loudoun and western Fairfax, with a few exceptions. Curie students constituted over 70% of the Indian students in the Class of 2024… something we know only because they took the mind-blowing step of publishing the students’ first and last names.


I didn't realize that Loudon makes up over 30% of TJ's class.


I'm all for outside enrichment, but I don't feel it should confer an advantage for admission to programs paid for with public funds. These should benefit all residents, not just those who can afford enrichemnt.


Compiling a list of test questions for their customers was why they had to rethink the selection process. Places like Cuire made it too easy to game for those who can afford to spend a few grand on enrichment.


It was reported here numerous times that they conducted exit interviews of students for years to compile a question bank. Several reported even seeing the same questions they had at the prep center on the actual test.
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