professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.

Heh well that's one read of the situation I guess? The other is that DeSantis has enacted an arbitrary, punitive, nasty educational system - one that is also taking away tenure! - and people with options aren't going to submit to that. Why would they?

For years the right has told us that there are LOTS of right wingers who'd love the freedom to be out and proud in a college setting - why aren't they applying to teach at New College, either?

^ Oh, and a system led by political cronies with no qualifications, to boot. It just isn't a serious system.

Excellent point, PP! Where are the legions of right-leaning professors who have been so suppressed in "liberal" colleges? They should be practically knocking down the doors of New College. Could it possibly be that New College doesn't have the prestige or credibility they would like in their academic careers?

+1 Bari Weiss and the rest of those grifters founding the “University of Austin” should just flock there instead. Infrastructure and students are ready!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.

Heh well that's one read of the situation I guess? The other is that DeSantis has enacted an arbitrary, punitive, nasty educational system - one that is also taking away tenure! - and people with options aren't going to submit to that. Why would they?

For years the right has told us that there are LOTS of right wingers who'd love the freedom to be out and proud in a college setting - why aren't they applying to teach at New College, either?

^ Oh, and a system led by political cronies with no qualifications, to boot. It just isn't a serious system.

Excellent point, PP! Where are the legions of right-leaning professors who have been so suppressed in "liberal" colleges? They should be practically knocking down the doors of New College. Could it possibly be that New College doesn't have the prestige or credibility they would like in their academic careers?

+1 Bari Weiss and the rest of those grifters founding the “University of Austin” should just flock there instead. Infrastructure and students are ready!

Bari Weiss is a grifter? What?

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has turned the New College of Florida, a public liberal arts college in Sarasota, into a social experiment, staffing the Board of Trustees with hard-right allies with the goal of erasing what he calls "woke" ideology. The result, according to the website Inside Higher Ed, has been utter "chaos" and a campus that can barely function.
www.insidehighered.com

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Anonymous wrote:Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has turned the New College of Florida, a public liberal arts college in Sarasota, into a social experiment, staffing the Board of Trustees with hard-right allies with the goal of erasing what he calls "woke" ideology. The result, according to the website Inside Higher Ed, has been utter "chaos" and a campus that can barely function.
www.insidehighered.com

It's like his campaign.. chaos. If he ever became POTUS, the US would also be in chaos. Same thing happened when Trump was POTUS. His administration was chaotic, as were his EOs.

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Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?

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Desantis motto should be, "Make America Stupid Again".

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Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?

Maybe; the boomers continue to age and as their bodies age, they seek warmth and that frequently means the shrinking state of Florida.

The real question is, what’s going to keep happening to Florida’s schools and universities under the GOP’s fascism? You will never concede that the state’s rising fascism is affecting schooling or the choices of academics, so I don’t know why I’m wasting my breath, but this is not good for the state of Florida even if they have a net “oh yeah? well we oldsters like what Pudding Desantis is doing and we’ll move there to prove it!” positive migration.

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Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?

All those retired snow birds who will eventually need a lot of home and medical care? Aslo who is going to insure all the home of the new inhabitants?

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New College students can't get the classes they need to fulfill graduation requirements, and the College just doesn't care.

The course catalogue was already sparse when students first began looking at classes last spring. Dani Delaney, the mother of one former New College student who is transferring to Hampshire College in Massachusetts—which guaranteed admission to all New College students in good standing—said her son could only find two classes that counted toward his “area of concentration” (which is what New College calls majors). When he contacted the institution about the lack of relevant courses, she said, he was told the course catalogue was “in flux” and to “choose something else.”

“These are young adults who are not looking to fill up a semester with high school electives. It’s not like, ‘Oh, chorus is closed, let me just go take that art class,’” she said. “There are classes [students] need to take to continue to propel [their] studies forward … that was just an absolute stunning thing to have a college tell us, just pick something else. No.”

New trustee, Christopher Rufo, who has zero experience running anything, much less a college, posted on twitter a call for professorial job applicants to email him at his personal email address.

To boost enrollment, they've added athletic teams, and about half of the incoming freshman class are athletes. There are 70 incoming baseball players - Univ of Florida has only 37 players on its roster - and New College doesn't even have a field where they can practice and play. Also, the athletes have displaced junior and senior students from promised dorm room space. Many students now have to live in a hotel a mile off campus.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/students/academics/2023/08/16/chaos-reigns-new-college-florida-fall-semester-nears#

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Anonymous wrote:New College students can't get the classes they need to fulfill graduation requirements, and the College just doesn't care.

The course catalogue was already sparse when students first began looking at classes last spring. Dani Delaney, the mother of one former New College student who is transferring to Hampshire College in Massachusetts—which guaranteed admission to all New College students in good standing—said her son could only find two classes that counted toward his “area of concentration” (which is what New College calls majors). When he contacted the institution about the lack of relevant courses, she said, he was told the course catalogue was “in flux” and to “choose something else.”

“These are young adults who are not looking to fill up a semester with high school electives. It’s not like, ‘Oh, chorus is closed, let me just go take that art class,’” she said. “There are classes [students] need to take to continue to propel [their] studies forward … that was just an absolute stunning thing to have a college tell us, just pick something else. No.”

New trustee, Christopher Rufo, who has zero experience running anything, much less a college, posted on twitter a call for professorial job applicants to email him at his personal email address.

To boost enrollment, they've added athletic teams, and about half of the incoming freshman class are athletes. There are 70 incoming baseball players - Univ of Florida has only 37 players on its roster - and New College doesn't even have a field where they can practice and play. Also, the athletes have displaced junior and senior students from promised dorm room space. Many students now have to live in a hotel a mile off campus.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/students/academics/2023/08/16/chaos-reigns-new-college-florida-fall-semester-nears#

That school needs to close down already.

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All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.

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Anonymous wrote:Who wants to bet $100 that more people will move in than out FL in 2023?

They won't if they can't get home owners insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.

Like it or not, this is true.

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Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.

Your experience is far from universal. Most of my family lives in MA and none of them are looking to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:All you progressive losers can leave Florida any time you want. There is a reason while progressive, high tax, high crime states like Mass, NY, NJ, Conn are all losing residents to Florida???! Just ask your neighbors or friends who live there. More than 25% of the people I knew in Mass are all looking to move out of there in the next few years due to high taxes and policies.

Last I checked, Massachusetts taxes were on the low end. Did they get rid of their flat tax rule? Romney got elected because libertarians put on the ballot to eliminate the state income tax that nearly passed.