TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

No way this is real. No way.

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I've heard of families in Ashburn moving to west Loudoun for a year to boost their chances.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

Stop lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

The poor kids. They are being separated from their friends at their school, have to get up earlier to go to a different school, have no real opportunity to get to know the kids at the other school because of the set up, and probably have to lie at school about their parents and where they live. Oh, and they are committing fraud to qualify for FARMs which is actually a crime. And to toss it all off, there parents might try and have them change schools at the end of the school year. All so they can marginally increase their chance of attending TJ.

I hope that this is a BS story but I suspect that it is not. And if it is happening, you can count on the schools figuring it out. There is a real chance that those kids will be sent back to their base school. Or, the system will be changed so you have to attend the school for all of MS and if you move you lose your spot. Or it really will become a lottery which will be far worse for the top students because now it really is all out luck.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

No chance there are THAT many families willing to go through this and set such a bad moral example for their kids. If there are then yes they will need to see how to crack down on those cheaters as well.

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In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

Let's be honest, TJ hasn't been that desirable for most of the top students in the catchment area for a long time. If it were, you would have seen the application numbers explode along with the population increases but indeed there are FEWER applications to TJ per year now than there were 20 years ago.

But it has been ubiquitous in the Indian community, and therefore they believe it is attractive to everyone because of how they isolate themselves in their ethnic enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, and South Riding.

If TJ becomes less popular in this community, it will not be because of a decline in the caliber of the offerings, because that isn't going anywhere. It will be because of a perceived reduction in prestige within their own circles - because that prestige was the reason for the explosion in interest in TJ from that community in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

Let's be honest, TJ hasn't been that desirable for most of the top students in the catchment area for a long time. If it were, you would have seen the application numbers explode along with the population increases but indeed there are FEWER applications to TJ per year now than there were 20 years ago.

But it has been ubiquitous in the Indian community, and therefore they believe it is attractive to everyone because of how they isolate themselves in their ethnic enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, and South Riding.

If TJ becomes less popular in this community, it will not be because of a decline in the caliber of the offerings, because that isn't going anywhere. It will be because of a perceived reduction in prestige within their own circles - because that prestige was the reason for the explosion in interest in TJ from that community in the first place.

Completely nailed this.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

No chance there are THAT many families willing to go through this and set such a bad moral example for their kids. If there are then yes they will need to see how to crack down on those cheaters as well.

Fairfax conducts a review of housing to make sure people aren't going to a school where they do not reside. These parents would pass that review because they have a residence in the school's zone. There doesn't have to be that many families willing to go through this. If there were, it would defeat the purpose, as there are a limited number of seats per school to go to TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

Let's be honest, TJ hasn't been that desirable for most of the top students in the catchment area for a long time. If it were, you would have seen the application numbers explode along with the population increases but indeed there are FEWER applications to TJ per year now than there were 20 years ago.

But it has been ubiquitous in the Indian community, and therefore they believe it is attractive to everyone because of how they isolate themselves in their ethnic enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, and South Riding.

If TJ becomes less popular in this community, it will not be because of a decline in the caliber of the offerings, because that isn't going anywhere. It will be because of a perceived reduction in prestige within their own circles - because that prestige was the reason for the explosion in interest in TJ from that community in the first place.

This one will piss a lot of people off but it's 100% true.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

No way this is real. No way.

Jokes on them really. Those schools typically only send a few kids where the wealthy schools typically send 30 so have much better odds.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

Let's be honest, TJ hasn't been that desirable for most of the top students in the catchment area for a long time. If it were, you would have seen the application numbers explode along with the population increases but indeed there are FEWER applications to TJ per year now than there were 20 years ago.

But it has been ubiquitous in the Indian community, and therefore they believe it is attractive to everyone because of how they isolate themselves in their ethnic enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, and South Riding.

If TJ becomes less popular in this community, it will not be because of a decline in the caliber of the offerings, because that isn't going anywhere. It will be because of a perceived reduction in prestige within their own circles - because that prestige was the reason for the explosion in interest in TJ from that community in the first place.

This one will piss a lot of people off but it's 100% true.

It sounds more like sour grapes than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

Let's be honest, TJ hasn't been that desirable for most of the top students in the catchment area for a long time. If it were, you would have seen the application numbers explode along with the population increases but indeed there are FEWER applications to TJ per year now than there were 20 years ago.

But it has been ubiquitous in the Indian community, and therefore they believe it is attractive to everyone because of how they isolate themselves in their ethnic enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, and South Riding.

If TJ becomes less popular in this community, it will not be because of a decline in the caliber of the offerings, because that isn't going anywhere. It will be because of a perceived reduction in prestige within their own circles - because that prestige was the reason for the explosion in interest in TJ from that community in the first place.

#fakenews

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Republican just because your angry about TJ admissions is short sighted. Haven’t you seen the pictures in the news of Republicans giving Trump the Nazi salute in mass? (It’s a very similar salute, and there were pictures of three moms on the street giving the full Nazi salute to Trump.) Did you not see Nov.6th? Do you think it will end well for our country when it is no longer a democracy?

So discrimination against Asians is cool because otherwise we're just ushering in Mussolini? Get a grip.

DP but get a grip. There is no discrimination against Asians when it comes to admission to TJ. Asians make up 20% of the students body in FCPS but take up to 70% of the seats at TJ.

Jews make up 2% of the population and 22-24% of the Ivy schools - some 11 times the size of the population. Complain about that before complaining of Asians.

PP isn't complaining about it; PP is illustrating why a court will not see a valid legal claim of disparate impact discrimination against a minority population that holds a majority of seats. There are two ways to prove discrimination, one of which is disparate impact. Disparate impact is proved by statistics and this case doesn't have numbers on its side, which was PP's point.

And if suddenly a single school was admitting them at only the rate of 15% of its student body I would think the same thing - that alleging discrimination doesn’t feel like strong ground to stand on when the admittance level is still so high.

And everyone expects it to continue to go back up close to its prior percentage level.

The new system is still gameable with moving and/or fraudulently filling out the free meals form being the two easiest ways to gain admittance.

It needs to be changed to either a lottery or an open enrollment academy model.

Oh no! The meals question was a stroke of genius. They were able to verify and catch many of the cheaters which helped detoxify TJ.

Did you not hear about the massive loophole?

As long as the family submits that their child is eligible using the online free and reduced price meals form, their child will get the bonus points.

FCPS does not verify income if you fill out the form in their website. It’s completely based on trust and there are absolutely parents who have and will continue to abuse this trust.

Not sure where you got this nonsense from but that's not true at all. They required documentation from those who claimed this and those who were unable to provide it were kicked from the program.

No documentation is required if the FARMS forms are filed with the child’s middle school.

And the FARMS forms do not require documentation.

This is terrible.

No documentation is required. If a parent is willing to lie, they can get the FARMS bonus got their child in the TJ admissions.

https://www.fcps.edu/frm

Will this be the case for this year's admissions, now that free lunch for all is gone?

It’s not gone. I live in a TJ feeder neighborhood. There is a family a couple doors over with an 8th grader. They have teamed up with two other neighborhood families with 8th graders and rented a cheap o crash pad by an under-represented school, which the kids are attending until spring. Mom is “separated“ from dad on paper and, as a singLe parent with no income, has filled out the FARMSs paperwork. They take turns with drop off and pickup. Kids stay on same travel sports teams, sleep in their bedrooms and I know they take independent math classes on Sundays to stay ahead.

No one is hiding it. And in many ways, it’s cheaper and easier than prep.

I hope this is real because these like the FARMs cheaters are the toxic people you want to keep out. When they do this kind of thing, it's very easy to ID them and blacklist their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:In a few years no one will bother. TJ isn’t that desirable for most any more. The people renting crash pads just haven’t figured that out yet.

Let's be honest, TJ hasn't been that desirable for most of the top students in the catchment area for a long time. If it were, you would have seen the application numbers explode along with the population increases but indeed there are FEWER applications to TJ per year now than there were 20 years ago.

But it has been ubiquitous in the Indian community, and therefore they believe it is attractive to everyone because of how they isolate themselves in their ethnic enclaves in Herndon, Chantilly, Ashburn, and South Riding.

If TJ becomes less popular in this community, it will not be because of a decline in the caliber of the offerings, because that isn't going anywhere. It will be because of a perceived reduction in prestige within their own circles - because that prestige was the reason for the explosion in interest in TJ from that community in the first place.

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