Why do staunch republicans hate electric vehicles?

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Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s something Liberals are for so they are automatically against. 95% of Conservstivism/MAGAism is just being against the Libs.

I have not seen Biden or Jill driving Tesla a lot, have you?

Biden pretty famously took the train quite a bit over his career.

Do you mean electric train or diesel powered train? The subject of this thread is electric vehicles.

Most modern trains are either diesel-electric hybrid or electric.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

Even at current, low ownership rates, EV owners are asked not to charge during heatwaves. That does not inspire confidence. If every car were an EV car, they would all draw energy from the grid. And that's now, while we have basically enough energy to power everything. We aren't building new plants, and we have plans to shutter coal plants. This means energy production will decline as energy needs rise for EVs. There is not a plan for this. Our aspirations to "go green" defy the laws of physics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

Right, this grid argument for electric cars makes no sense if you even think about it for a second.

The average car lasts over 15 years. Which means if even 100% sold were electric today (real number is about 8%) then we are only replacing 7% of cars on the road. Factor that in regard to overall electric use and we would only need to improve the grid by like 1-2% a year! In what world is that not doable. In reality the improvement needed is much less as production is still phasing up.

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They suck. Batteries are a poor store of energy and have physical limits that will never reach the energy output of fossil fuel. There will not be an electric 747. Thousand pound batteries that lose half power in cold weather. Turn on the heat at zero degrees and totally screwed. Plus need fossil fuels to generate power to charge them (takes forever). Loss of power delivering over power lines as well.

They just can’t compete without massive subsidies. Head to head with no inflationary government borrowing and transferring to loser electric car production / financing they literally suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

Right, this grid argument for electric cars makes no sense if you even think about it for a second.

The average car lasts over 15 years. Which means if even 100% sold were electric today (real number is about 8%) then we are only replacing 7% of cars on the road. Factor that in regard to overall electric use and we would only need to improve the grid by like 1-2% a year! In what world is that not doable. In reality the improvement needed is much less as production is still phasing up.

Some is a grid problem, some is an infrastructure problem. How long will it take for your condo association to install outlets for the electric vehicles? And they won't install any outlets until someone has an electric vehicle. So, it's a chicken and egg problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

Right, this grid argument for electric cars makes no sense if you even think about it for a second.

The average car lasts over 15 years. Which means if even 100% sold were electric today (real number is about 8%) then we are only replacing 7% of cars on the road. Factor that in regard to overall electric use and we would only need to improve the grid by like 1-2% a year! In what world is that not doable. In reality the improvement needed is much less as production is still phasing up.

We need to add generation sources, but we don't make any climate gains unless it's green energy. Right now, most of the energy mix is gas and coal. The entire idea is to make renewable energy sources, and then use those to power cars.

That is far more complicated than it sounds. Even when everything snaps into place and a company goes forward with a project, they may find it so cost prohibitive to sync go the grid that they just give up: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/04/06/outdated-us-energy-grid-tons-of-clean-energy-stuck-waiting-in-line.html

As companies see that green energy is a risky business, they are less likely to make investments in it. Since all our energy production is private sector, we can't just snap our fingers and demand 1-2% more and more green every year.

[Anonymous]

GM buys out nearly half of its Buick dealers across the country, who opt to not sell EVs
Detroit Free Press, December 20, 2023

General Motors said nearly half its Buick dealers took buyouts this year rather than invest in selling and servicing electric vehicles as the automaker's brands transition to all electric by 2030.

That means GM will end 2023 with about 1,000 Buick stores nationwide, down 47% from where it started the year.

Late last year, Buick said it would be asking dealers to commit a minimum investment of $300,000 to $400,000 to prepare their stores to sell and service EVs.

More: https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2023/12/20/gm-buick-dealerships-buyouts/71978066007/

[Anonymous]

Just as well. How many people under 65 actually want to buy a Buick? I know zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

Right, this grid argument for electric cars makes no sense if you even think about it for a second.

The average car lasts over 15 years. Which means if even 100% sold were electric today (real number is about 8%) then we are only replacing 7% of cars on the road. Factor that in regard to overall electric use and we would only need to improve the grid by like 1-2% a year! In what world is that not doable. In reality the improvement needed is much less as production is still phasing up.

We need to add generation sources, but we don't make any climate gains unless it's green energy. Right now, most of the energy mix is gas and coal. The entire idea is to make renewable energy sources, and then use those to power cars.

That is far more complicated than it sounds. Even when everything snaps into place and a company goes forward with a project, they may find it so cost prohibitive to sync go the grid that they just give up: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/04/06/outdated-us-energy-grid-tons-of-clean-energy-stuck-waiting-in-line.html

As companies see that green energy is a risky business, they are less likely to make investments in it. Since all our energy production is private sector, we can't just snap our fingers and demand 1-2% more and more green every year.

The IRA and the market is driving both a cleaner grid and more EVS. If the gov’t did nothing else we’d probably still be 50-75% EVs (as a share of new vehicles not on the road vehicles) and also a lot more wind/solar/batteries for the grid.

[Anonymous]

Most people are sheep. They follow their shepherd blindly. The head of the Republicans are paid by nicely oil and gas companies … hence the hatred of EVs.

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If Biden wanted to save the planet. He would embrace work from home. This is a easy way for cars not to drive everyday. EVs are just not selling. Up at Fair Oaks Volvo and VW are storing unsold EVs. Some still have a 5 inspection sticker. That means they have sat on the lot since May.

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Anonymous wrote:If Biden wanted to save the planet. He would embrace work from home. This is a easy way for cars not to drive everyday. EVs are just not selling. Up at Fair Oaks Volvo and VW are storing unsold EVs. Some still have a 5 inspection sticker. That means they have sat on the lot since May.

Sorry, but the DOI is expecting you in the office 50% of the time.

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Because they know the limitations of electric vehicles. They make great golf carts, but beyond that not so good.

So republicans using electric golf carts when they are out for a round of golf are doing their fair share to help the planet.

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Letter to Biden:
https://evvoiceofthecustomer.com

We are auto dealers from across the country who collectively sell every major brand in the U.S. We are small businesses employing thousands of Americans. We are deeply committed to the customers we serve and the communities where we operate, which is why we are asking you to slow down your proposed regulations mandating battery electric vehicle (BEV) production and distribution.

Your Administration has proposed regulations that would essentially mandate a dramatic shift to battery electric vehicles (BEVs), increasing year after year until 2032, when two out of every three vehicles sold in America would have to be battery electric.

Currently, there are many excellent battery electric vehicles available for consumers to purchase. These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time. The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots.

Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs. Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change. They are concerned about BEVs being unaffordable. Many do not have garages for home charging or easy access to public charging stations. Customers are also concerned about the loss of driving range in cold or hot weather. Some have long daily commutes and don’t have the extra time to charge the battery. Truck buyers are especially put off by the dramatic loss of range when towing. Today’s current technology is not adequate to support the needs of the majority of our consumers.

Many of these challenges can and will be addressed by our manufacturers, but many of these challenges are outside of their control. Reliable charging networks, electric grid stability, sourcing of materials, and many other issues need time to resolve. And finally, many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.

Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries. Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle.
Sincerely,
Supporting Dealerships

Same people did not want unleaded gas, seat belts, etc.

I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV.

If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own.

The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough!

The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car?

I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person.

EV charging is not even remotely a big harm or threat to the grid.

Right, this grid argument for electric cars makes no sense if you even think about it for a second.

The average car lasts over 15 years. Which means if even 100% sold were electric today (real number is about 8%) then we are only replacing 7% of cars on the road. Factor that in regard to overall electric use and we would only need to improve the grid by like 1-2% a year! In what world is that not doable. In reality the improvement needed is much less as production is still phasing up.

We need to add generation sources, but we don't make any climate gains unless it's green energy. Right now, most of the energy mix is gas and coal. The entire idea is to make renewable energy sources, and then use those to power cars.

That is far more complicated than it sounds. Even when everything snaps into place and a company goes forward with a project, they may find it so cost prohibitive to sync go the grid that they just give up: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/04/06/outdated-us-energy-grid-tons-of-clean-energy-stuck-waiting-in-line.html

As companies see that green energy is a risky business, they are less likely to make investments in it. Since all our energy production is private sector, we can't just snap our fingers and demand 1-2% more and more green every year.

Those of us who can are doing our part by installing solar. Ours just turned on last week.