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I have not seen Biden or Jill driving Tesla a lot, have you? |
| Because politics is now ultimately about culture wars rather than substantive policy. |
I'm not against EVs. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, YOU need to pay the full fare for the EV. If you want to save the planet, pony up. No help from the tax payer. YOU pay for it, on your own. The heavy subsidies after two decades (Prius, Nissan Leaf, etc.) forward floors me. You're buying a 40-70K car and after all this time, it's still not selling without big subsidies from DC (AKA, the taxpayer). Enough! |
| EVs are sitting on the car lots. Americans don't want them at the current pricing. |
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This car dealership letter reads like another false narrative drummed up by conservatives.
Just a little internet sleuthing and you can find that it's not just new EVs that are sitting on lots. New vehicle inventory is at an all-time high for all new vehicles. |
Sounds good! I assume we will also be ending the heavy tax subsidies for oil production? |
The only real benefit of the adoption of EVs is collective. You are saying you want to be a free rider and leave it to others to address lowering emissions while you are free to drive your Suburban. If you support full costs being built into the cost of cars, how about we incorporate the costs of increasing emissions and addressing climate change into the cost of your conventional car? |
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Funny story....
A friend of mine and her husband drove her gas car from Tennessee to Michigan over Thanksgiving. Her daughter, husband and child also drove the same route - in their EV. My friend and her husband arrived 3 hours earlier because of the time it took to find EV charging stations and the amount of time it took to charge their EV. Our country is not ready or willing to go primarily EV. If you want one, fine - get it. But, don't force it on the rest of us. |
Biden pretty famously took the train quite a bit over his career. |
+1. Pollution - from cars and otherwise - externalizes the costs of the activity. That, in turn, makes market forces inefficient. The price of the car (or other activity) doesn't reflect its true cost because those costs (in this case, the costs of pollution) are borne by third parties. |
How about YOU start doing that by putting a global tax on China for their pollution, carbon and send them a bill. Let's see if they send you a check! |
| Ah wait till they start taxing EV drivers because of the fuel tax they aren't paying. |
I disagree. I own 2 teslas and one other EV and I don't want people to rush to get EVs. Our grid cannot handle full scale adoption of EVs right now. And, other people driving gas combustion vehicles doesn't somehow cancel out the emissions reductions from the EVs. I'm Republican btw, and own 3x as many EVs as the average person. |
Do you mean electric train or diesel powered train? The subject of this thread is electric vehicles. |
A global carbon tax on China snd all county is an excellent idea although probably impossible to implement. Putting a tax on goods produced with power generated by fossil fuels would even the playing field. The tax would obviously raise the costs of those goods which would be passed on to consumers (eg US buyers of Chinese products). They might then choose to buy products manufactured with cleaner energy as their tax-less price would be more competitive. |