The Gilded Age

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Anonymous wrote:I am in it strictly for the costumes at this point.

Anyone see the most recent episode? Peggy Scott’s Disneyesque gown at the Brooklyn Bridge party? WTAF?

YES!! What were the costume designers thinking? She looked utterly ridiculous.

Butterflies! WTF. I don't believe that ever existed in that era.

Nothing like that existed in that era. That was a major misfire.

Can someone link a picture of the dress?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz1pEIVO0IC/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=9e5303a5-2689-4d6e-88c0-b46c76a8b293&img_index=1

Ah, I see. Giving it the Bridgerton treatment and agree re dress. Highly implausible.

You mean even more implausible than middle and upper middle class New York City Blacks trying to integrate their schools with poor Irish immigrants and vice versa?

Everything relating to Peggy this season was ridiculous. But the worst was her unaccompanied trip with her married make boss down to Alabama. That would never, ever, ever have happened. Never. It makes the butterfly dress look realistic in comparison.

Sarah Garnet was a real person.

"In 1863, she became the first Black woman principal of a New York City public school, Manhattan Grammar School No. 4, an integrated school that taught both Black and white students."

https://www.mcny.org/sites/default/files/2021-06/SarahGarnet.pdf

Sarah Garnet was a real person and an amazing one at that.

But her school (originally Manhattan Grammar School No. 4) was never at any point integrated. Nor was there ever any discussion of integration, although there was talk of closing African American schools. All that ever happened was the Board of Education dropped the term “Colored” from its designation. The school continued to serve an exclusively Black population until 1894 when it was closed.


https://www.nyc.gov/assets/lpc/downloads/pdf/proposed_landmarks/Colored_School_No._4_proposed.pdf

https://placematters.net/census/detail.php?id=925

Let’s not revise history. If we do, we’re bound to miss important lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:I am in it strictly for the costumes at this point.

Anyone see the most recent episode? Peggy Scott’s Disneyesque gown at the Brooklyn Bridge party? WTAF?

YES!! What were the costume designers thinking? She looked utterly ridiculous.

Butterflies! WTF. I don't believe that ever existed in that era.

Nothing like that existed in that era. That was a major misfire.

Can someone link a picture of the dress?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz1pEIVO0IC/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=9e5303a5-2689-4d6e-88c0-b46c76a8b293&img_index=1

Ah, I see. Giving it the Bridgerton treatment and agree re dress. Highly implausible.

You mean even more implausible than middle and upper middle class New York City Blacks trying to integrate their schools with poor Irish immigrants and vice versa?

Everything relating to Peggy this season was ridiculous. But the worst was her unaccompanied trip with her married make boss down to Alabama. That would never, ever, ever have happened. Never. It makes the butterfly dress look realistic in comparison.

There is a trend to invent a weird black history to try to be "equitable" but the unfortunate reality was brutally, heavily racist. The Irish Americans were brutal to poor blacks in New York and Boston. The number of blacks in America at the time who could have afforded fancy ball gowns of the gilded age could be counted on one hand minus a few fingers. Even the vast majority of whites could never afford anything like the clothes we see on the show. There was a small middle class black presence (and I use the term small generously, we are talking about maybe 5% of American blacks at most). We are barely 30 years from the Civil War. I would LOVE a show that focused on the struggles and advancements of black Americans in the late 19th century but turning it into some kind of Bridgerton is counterproductive in inventing or suggesting a history that never existed.

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Gladys character is hard to watch.

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Julian Fellowes doesn’t seem like a very bright man.

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Anonymous wrote:Gladys character is hard to watch.

I realize that even the ugliest young woman would be highly sought after being as rich as Gladys is. So I can appreciate that she’s popular. But it makes no sense that someone with Larry as a sibling would be so homely. The actress playing Carrie Astor looks like she’d fit in to the Russell family, and she’s pleasant to look at. I have no idea what they were thinking casting Gladys. Thousands of decent looking actresses could pull off such a small part.

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It’s annoying how current period dramas pretend that so many young women were feminists. Marian would never have rejected Dashiel because she wanted to teach and experience life, and because there weren’t enough sparks. She’s already around 21, has zero money, and she narrowly avoided her reputation being ruined by her almost-elopement with that shady nobody, Raikes. A handsome rich widower, already a cousin by marriage, would be better than she could reasonably hope for, and she’d probably be thrilled at the proposal. Just because we’re wary of age gaps, public proposals and men not over their dead spouses in 2023, and just because a young woman might prefer to experience life to marrying in 2023, it doesn’t mean that people always felt this way. Bridgerton was the same way. It’s okay to show things as they were!

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Anonymous wrote:I would watch almost anything in this genre and even I couldn’t watch this show, it is tragically garbage.

+1. Woke garbage at that.

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Anonymous wrote:Gladys character is hard to watch.

I realize that even the ugliest young woman would be highly sought after being as rich as Gladys is. So I can appreciate that she’s popular. But it makes no sense that someone with Larry as a sibling would be so homely. The actress playing Carrie Astor looks like she’d fit in to the Russell family, and she’s pleasant to look at. I have no idea what they were thinking casting Gladys. Thousands of decent looking actresses could pull off such a small part.

WTF? Gladys is not homely. I can't believe how mean-spirited this post is. Gladys is a normal looking teenager. You are really totally out of line.

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Gladys is played by Taissa Farmiga — very popular actress. I think they are playing down her looks in order to keep her from making Carrie Coon look less attractive. I also think she’s going to have a swan up moment when she stands up to mom.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t figure out why Bertha’s son (don’t know his name) and Marion didn’t get together a long time ago. Seems like the obvious pairing.

They’ve been setting it up for a long time. I guess it’s supposed to be a big plot twist.

It’s supposed to be a slow burn, but the two have no chemistry and Louisa Jacobsen is such a bad actress all around I don’t think she could pull off on-screen chemistry with anyone.

Agreed, she is so terrible.

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A series about an annoying interloper desperate to be “friends” with women who don’t like her. It’s like watching a teen gal obsess over getting into a sorority that rejected her. Or a creepy man obsess over a woman who rejected him. The show’s premise is creepy and pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Gladys is played by Taissa Farmiga — very popular actress. I think they are playing down her looks in order to keep her from making Carrie Coon look less attractive. I also think she’s going to have a swan up moment when she stands up to mom.

Ok Taissa thank for your contribution to dcurbanmom.

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Anonymous wrote:It is the same creator, but Ada coming into sudden fortune to save the day is exactly like the Lavinia/Matthew will plot in Downton Abbey.

Like DA, it also had a lot of tidy endings in the season finale. If it does get renewed, and any of the main cast don’t want to return, how do you think Julian Fellowes will kill them off in grandiose style, like Cousin Matthew? I’m betting on a runaway, horse-drawn calliope causing havoc.

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There are so many similarities to DA, but DA was SO MUCH better. The writing, the costumes, the sets, everything was far superior on DA.
Even the "downstairs" staff is directly correlated to the staff on DA.

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Anonymous wrote:Gladys character is hard to watch.

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:Gladys character is hard to watch.

I realize that even the ugliest young woman would be highly sought after being as rich as Gladys is. So I can appreciate that she’s popular. But it makes no sense that someone with Larry as a sibling would be so homely. The actress playing Carrie Astor looks like she’d fit in to the Russell family, and she’s pleasant to look at. I have no idea what they were thinking casting Gladys. Thousands of decent looking actresses could pull off such a small part.

DP. Families are often made up of very different looking siblings. And I don't think Bertha is particularly pretty, so it would follow that her daughter would not be either. But I do wish they had cast a different actress only because I think the actress playing Gladys is not great and her homeliness is distracting when they portray handsome men being interested in her.