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Anonymous
It doesn't sound like a troll to me at all. The original post and the follow-up post carry the same subjective strength- that was the point. However, someone with kids who are actually in TJ would prefer to remain optimistic and not self-sabotage. As a result, we'd be less likely to hear the second point, even if it's true. It's unlikely that the original post has much of a firm basis at this point, but it's likely that both points of view are well-represented in the school. It's basically calling out the first post for using a meaningless rhetorical tactic, and was right in doing so. However, the anti-education reformers don't have the sophistication to realize that - all they can do is call people trolls and hope that everyone else is dull like them, and won't wise up to what they're doing. |
Anonymous
Copying & pasting a post to make a point is pretty much Troll 101. If you have an issue with the first post, just address it like an adult. Don't troll like a butthurt teen. |
Anonymous
“ Enrolled students will be offered a nutritious meal for breakfast and lunch each day at no charge to the household. Households will not be required to submit a meal application form to receive meals at no charge” https://www.fcps.edu/return-school/food |
Anonymous
Certainly worth a phone call to ask how they calculated ED for their admissions report. |
Anonymous
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This is the State of Virginia report for community eligibility provision - basically says that they did not collect any data.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/nutrition/statistics/free_reduced_eligibility/2020-2021-free-red-report-sfa-level.xlsx Here is the State Dept of Education memo that said no reporting was needed for this school year. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/administrators/superintendents_memos/2021/128-21.pdf It really really looks like the TJ admissions office is using these two questions (and only these two questions) to give the economically disadvantaged bump. If so, the school board must fix this asap. It’s not fair to families that did not get the heads up from a prep company to answer “Yes” to both or to families that answered based based on a normal year. |
Anonymous
Did they use that for actual admissions? Or just reporting? |
Anonymous
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Recap of #s from 2024 to 2025:
46 more hispanic (going from 3% of the class to 11%) 29 more black (2% to 7%) 8 more other/mixed (4% to 5%) [83 more hispanic/black/mixed (9 to 23%)] 37 more white (18% to 22%) 56 fewer asians (73% to 54% 50 more girls than the prior class. (42% to 46%) 15 private school kids admitted. Down from 51. (10% to 3%) 100% of FCPS middle schools were represented ED increased from 0.62% to 25% (but should verify) And looking at admissions rates...overall 18% acceptance rate. Hispanic 21% Asian 19% White 17% Black 14% Other* 13% |
Anonymous
NP I don’t see what is so hard to understanding. FCPS simply did not collect the forms for the vast majority of families last year or this year. Why would a family turn in a form if they are already getting free meals? Now if the TJ admissions office contacted each and every family that answered “Yes” to the meals questions and said that the parents needed to fill out the form in order to get the admissions experience factor, that seems like an easy solution. In the link on the FCPS free meals webpage shared above, they even have a statement that says that some programs will require families to fill out the form. |
Anonymous
The private schools might partially be explained by the meals questions? As private school students, they could not say that they receive free meals. |
Anonymous
Fewer private school kids + kids from every MS = higher ED #s |
Anonymous
The lack of private school students can be almost entirely explained by the number of allocated seats that were given only to public schools. |
Anonymous
And private school students actually are technically eligible for free meals. From Sizemore-Hiser’s 8/20/21 newsletter: “ All FCPS students (regardless of age) are eligible for free meals, as well as other county children that are eighteen (18) years and under. Parents/caregivers picking up meal kits for children should let staff know how many children's meals they need. ” |
Anonymous
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The lack of private school kids is most likely due to the inability to reasonably assess them in the current system. Kids coming from Nysmith or BASIS are likely to be taking Algebra II or pre-Calc in 8th, and they're likely to do quite well on the math part of the TJ test. They're also less likely to have 4.0s or near 4.0s, since the schools are harsher graders.
The new system doesn't seem to give an extra bump based on math level, it doesn't have a TJ test, it had a very simple math essay, and it's based almost entirely on GPA. Those factors are going to benefit FCPS kids over very STEM focused private school kids. |
Anonymous
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From https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/divisions/fairf...y-public-schools#desktopTabs-3
The Virginia Department of Education annually collects statistics on the number of students enrolled in public schools on September 30. Student counts are reported by grade assignment, race, ethnicity, disability, English proficiency, and economic status. The collection of race and ethnicity information as specified by the U.S. Department of Education is required for eligibility for federal education funds and for accountability reports. A student is reported as economically disadvantaged if he or she meets any one of the following criteria: Is eligible for Free/Reduced Meals; Receives Temporary Assistance for Needy Families; Is eligible for Medicaid; or Is a migrant or is experiencing homelessness. |
Anonymous
That above makes perfect sense in a normal year. However, every student in FCPS is eligible for free meals this year. So are they all therefore considered economically needy? |