Seriously with the book banning ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No, I don't want the resources in my kids' school libraries to be dictated by conservative parents period. No way, no how. Those parents have the means to ensure their kids don't have access to books, by telling the school their kids are not allowed to check out whatever books they deem too scary for their children.

I am not afraid of my teenagers being exposed to "sexual content." They've already been reading lots of things, some of it centuries old, that includes "sexual content." I want them to know and think about the world, their bodies, their current and future relationships. Frankly, I'd rather they read a book like Gender Queer than watch some of the graphic and often misogynistic cr@p that Hollywood puts out as entertainment for the masses. But I don't ban such movies from them, either.

My parents grew up in a world where parents wanted to suppress all knowledge about sexuality and "sexual content." It did not serve them well.

So many of the great books, as well as art and music, of our culture were once condemned as smut or pornography by religious zealots. You could do an entire class on this material. (And it would probably be the most popular class in school.) I don't want people enforcing their own religious morality on my kids. The list of things that were banned for my parents' generation is totally insane.

Put it this way, if you lived in a district where a "significant segment of parents" didn't want the school to teach evolution, would you be okay with the school deciding that is off-limits for all students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

You didn't answer the sex ed question. I'll take that as a "no" to sex ed in school. Or milquetoast sex ed, with lots of euphemisms and no pictures and emphasis on abstinence and being good girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

There was an agreement if you read the linked article. Control freak parents were able to block their teenagers from checking out the book. That wasn’t good enough for them, they had to make sure it was behind locked doors, thereby taking parenting decisions out of the hands of all parents and putting it in the hands of right wing nut jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How come people keep falling for this stuff? First it was the war on bathrooms, and now it's the book banning. This is all culture war BS pushed by the fake media (MSNBC,CNN,Post, Fox, etc.). If you didn't hear about this nonsense, it would be a non-issue. Most people who don't watch/read that crap are better off because they don't have grievances over these petty issues.

It’s fascism. It is real and it should be covered.

And Republicans are still trying to scare people about bathrooms. I’m just surprised that CRT, caravans and Dr. Seuss haven’t been brought by the right wingers at MSNBC, CNN and the like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How come people keep falling for this stuff? First it was the war on bathrooms, and now it's the book banning. This is all culture war BS pushed by the fake media (MSNBC,CNN,Post, Fox, etc.). If you didn't hear about this nonsense, it would be a non-issue. Most people who don't watch/read that crap are better off because they don't have grievances over these petty issues.

It’s fascism. It is real and it should be covered.

And Republicans are still trying to scare people about bathrooms. I’m just surprised that CRT, caravans and Dr. Seuss haven’t been brought by the right wingers at MSNBC, CNN and the like.

Sorry, not interested in the made up issue of the day. What a waste of time and energy. You are just spinning your wheels. Go feed the starving people in China please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How come people keep falling for this stuff? First it was the war on bathrooms, and now it's the book banning. This is all culture war BS pushed by the fake media (MSNBC,CNN,Post, Fox, etc.). If you didn't hear about this nonsense, it would be a non-issue. Most people who don't watch/read that crap are better off because they don't have grievances over these petty issues.

It’s fascism. It is real and it should be covered.

And Republicans are still trying to scare people about bathrooms. I’m just surprised that CRT, caravans and Dr. Seuss haven’t been brought by the right wingers at MSNBC, CNN and the like.

Sorry, not interested in the made up issue of the day. What a waste of time and energy. You are just spinning your wheels. Go feed the starving people in China please.

China, where they ban books? DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No, I don't want the resources in my kids' school libraries to be dictated by conservative parents period. No way, no how. Those parents have the means to ensure their kids don't have access to books, by telling the school their kids are not allowed to check out whatever books they deem too scary for their children.

I am not afraid of my teenagers being exposed to "sexual content." They've already been reading lots of things, some of it centuries old, that includes "sexual content." I want them to know and think about the world, their bodies, their current and future relationships. Frankly, I'd rather they read a book like Gender Queer than watch some of the graphic and often misogynistic cr@p that Hollywood puts out as entertainment for the masses. But I don't ban such movies from them, either.

My parents grew up in a world where parents wanted to suppress all knowledge about sexuality and "sexual content." It did not serve them well.

So many of the great books, as well as art and music, of our culture were once condemned as smut or pornography by religious zealots. You could do an entire class on this material. (And it would probably be the most popular class in school.) I don't want people enforcing their own religious morality on my kids. The list of things that were banned for my parents' generation is totally insane.

Put it this way, if you lived in a district where a "significant segment of parents" didn't want the school to teach evolution, would you be okay with the school deciding that is off-limits for all students?

+1. My parents used such books and movies as educational opportunities. And when they didn't think I got the point being made in these books and movies, I was forced to think deeper and come back to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s not an actual blowjob. You know that, right? You read the book?

It’s not “pornography”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No, I don't want the resources in my kids' school libraries to be dictated by conservative parents period. No way, no how. Those parents have the means to ensure their kids don't have access to books, by telling the school their kids are not allowed to check out whatever books they deem too scary for their children.

I am not afraid of my teenagers being exposed to "sexual content." They've already been reading lots of things, some of it centuries old, that includes "sexual content." I want them to know and think about the world, their bodies, their current and future relationships. Frankly, I'd rather they read a book like Gender Queer than watch some of the graphic and often misogynistic cr@p that Hollywood puts out as entertainment for the masses. But I don't ban such movies from them, either.

My parents grew up in a world where parents wanted to suppress all knowledge about sexuality and "sexual content." It did not serve them well.

So many of the great books, as well as art and music, of our culture were once condemned as smut or pornography by religious zealots. You could do an entire class on this material. (And it would probably be the most popular class in school.) I don't want people enforcing their own religious morality on my kids. The list of things that were banned for my parents' generation is totally insane.

Put it this way, if you lived in a district where a "significant segment of parents" didn't want the school to teach evolution, would you be okay with the school deciding that is off-limits for all students?

I don't want lefties forcing their religion on me either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No, I don't want the resources in my kids' school libraries to be dictated by conservative parents period. No way, no how. Those parents have the means to ensure their kids don't have access to books, by telling the school their kids are not allowed to check out whatever books they deem too scary for their children.

I am not afraid of my teenagers being exposed to "sexual content." They've already been reading lots of things, some of it centuries old, that includes "sexual content." I want them to know and think about the world, their bodies, their current and future relationships. Frankly, I'd rather they read a book like Gender Queer than watch some of the graphic and often misogynistic cr@p that Hollywood puts out as entertainment for the masses. But I don't ban such movies from them, either.

My parents grew up in a world where parents wanted to suppress all knowledge about sexuality and "sexual content." It did not serve them well.

So many of the great books, as well as art and music, of our culture were once condemned as smut or pornography by religious zealots. You could do an entire class on this material. (And it would probably be the most popular class in school.) I don't want people enforcing their own religious morality on my kids. The list of things that were banned for my parents' generation is totally insane.

Put it this way, if you lived in a district where a "significant segment of parents" didn't want the school to teach evolution, would you be okay with the school deciding that is off-limits for all students?

I don't want lefties forcing their religion on me either.

Guess what, I'm a lefty and I do not want my kids to be taught religious doctrine in public school either - learning about world religions, fine. Being taught some religious doctrine is the one and true doctrine, not fine.

So if lefties are "forcing" their religion on you then complain to your public school that religion doesn't belong there. I'll support your complaint.

[Anonymous]

Banning books and religion in school is the end of the US.

By 2024 the US will no longer be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.