Why are book banners showing up at FCPS SB meetings

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gender Queer does not have any underage sex acts. The main character is a virgin until age 25. But there is talk/graphics about menstruation, breasts, vagina, pretending to have a penis, etc.

Later when the main character is much older there is more sexualized talk. Perhaps it’s better for a college library than high school.

I don't want my child in any school where they read about or talk about their genitals unless it's in a scientific or medical discussion. It's NOT appropriate.

Same poster - If it's not appropriate to discuss at work, it's not appropriate at school. I cannot go to a coworkers office and talk about my genitals or sex. We have trainings for that. It is considered sexual harassment.

No one was discussing it. It’s a library book your teen can check out on their own.

So, could I provide the excerpts in question to my coworkers or boss? How about if I pretend the main character is myself, and I email the story about "me" to my coworkers and boss? How about in a federal workplace? Would I be safe from a sexual harassment complaint? NO. Because it's inappropriate.

How will children today comprehend what is sexually appropriate vs. inappropriate when they in a professional setting? I forsee a lot of blunders landing these future workers in very hot water because their view of "appropriate" will be so, so divergent than our own upbringing.

Public library vs a high school library would be a better comparison

Work and school are not the same you dolt. The comparison doesn’t even make sense. No one is making either book as assigned reading. No one is making the students give PowerPoint presentations.

The books are in the library for students to find, check out and read on their on their own time, alone in their rooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The question is how did this parent find these two books to begin with?

She said that she heard they were being banned in Texas so she wanted to see if any FCPS schools had them. She hadn’t read the books. It was just more politics…fodder for the screaming right wing outrage machine.

If you frame the Lawn Boy excerpt as a man talking about touching a 4th grader sexually, sure, it sounds horrific. These reactionary loons are all screaming PEDOPHILIA in all caps!

If you read the book and know that it is a sensitive story about a young man trying to find the American Dream and reflecting on how a soulless jerk in his community who treats him like dirt happens to be someone who he once sexually experimented with when *they both were in 4th grade*, it’s an entirely different context. You hear the language as bravado masking hurt. There was no pedophilia involved and clearly it is not *promotion* of anything…in context, they guy is struggling with his place in the world. It’s a mature book appropriate for some teenagers.

But if you read a few sentences from a 300 page book a loud and completely mischaracterize their context, you can get in the news and score political points. A huge win for Republicans and a huge loss for our community, which seems no linger to be led by educated, well read people who are capable of thinking rationally. (Actually, I take that back. In terms of most of the School Board, they are leading with thought and care. It’s just that the screeching voices of people who are ricocheting from one reactionary stance to another are louder.)

For the record, I’m not the same person as the school librarian above. I have read Lawn Biy but not Gender Queer. But I do trust school librarians’ professionalism and effort. I know there is a process for review of books and other supplementary materials at the school level. A true concerned parent could simply have contacted the school and initiated a review. But that wasn’t the point of this. The point was to get people screaming that the School Board buys gay porn instead of building new schools or whatever. It’s preposterous but look what’s happening right here. People buy it hook, line, and sinker.

It’s not just gay porn. It underage gay porn. Not sure if you truly enjoy looking at 4th grade d but most people would agree that sort material does not belong in a school library.

I’m happy the mom brought it up on Thursday. It should anger decent people.

Decent people like me are angered by ignoramuses like you who spread lies to score political points.

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Xm4AX25tE

This is the incident in question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so done. Thank you for validating my decision to withdraw from public school, and taking other families with me. Enjoy.

That is a hUGE relief. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so done. Thank you for validating my decision to withdraw from public school, and taking other families with me. Enjoy.

That is a hUGE relief. Thank you!

Amen to that! The more religious nut jobs that leave the better!!! If you want strict, conservative religious bigotry, PLEASE do us all a solid and leave!

[Anonymous]

You didn’t read Judy Blume growing up?

No.

Why not?

Still waiting to understand why you didn’t read Judy Blume growing up. That might provide some insights into your “upbringing” that you referenced.

[Anonymous]

So why don’t all these conservative parents who are so outraged just, I don’t know, Parent and tell their kids not to check out the books? Lord, heaven forbid these parents teach anything themselves instead of making the school board do everything. Be involved, folks. Your kids don’t have to read this. Chances are that if you’d stopped moaning your kids would never even have heard about these books. But parents have to make the biggest fuss with parenting the least

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so a parent brings up a legitimate complaint about pedophilia in a high school library and we are somehow talking about trump and youngkin?

Step away from politics for two seconds. Kiddy porn shouldn’t be supported by either party!

The problem is that it’s utterly illegitimate. There is no pornography involved. And idiot dupes like you just keep repeating the lies without even bothering to read either book that you’re so lathered up about. It’s reprehensible. You are reprehensible. You are getting your dopamine hits from repeating outrage manufactured by political operatives.

You
Haven’t
Read
Either
Book

You are actually taking time out of your day to post in favor of banning a. Book you have never read. What happened to you as a child that made you so easily led?

Honest question? Were those images I saw on Twitter of animated oral sex not accurate? Cause there’s no way that’s not pornography

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so done. Thank you for validating my decision to withdraw from public school, and taking other families with me. Enjoy.

That is a hUGE relief. Thank you!

You can bet these parents watch porn or their kids do, but heaven above if they read about it. Hello, Duggar family!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so done. Thank you for validating my decision to withdraw from public school, and taking other families with me. Enjoy.

That is a hUGE relief. Thank you!

You can bet these parents watch porn or their kids do, but heaven above if they read about it. Hello, Duggar family!

Projection much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so a parent brings up a legitimate complaint about pedophilia in a high school library and we are somehow talking about trump and youngkin?

Step away from politics for two seconds. Kiddy porn shouldn’t be supported by either party!

The problem is that it’s utterly illegitimate. There is no pornography involved. And idiot dupes like you just keep repeating the lies without even bothering to read either book that you’re so lathered up about. It’s reprehensible. You are reprehensible. You are getting your dopamine hits from repeating outrage manufactured by political operatives.

You
Haven’t
Read
Either
Book

You are actually taking time out of your day to post in favor of banning a. Book you have never read. What happened to you as a child that made you so easily led?

Honest question? Were those images I saw on Twitter of animated oral sex not accurate? Cause there’s no way that’s not pornography

Let’s see what happens if the students at all the schools with copies of this book try to include these images in their student yearbooks. The odds are 99.5% they’d be censored by the faculty advisors or principals.

But because they were called out at a meeting that embarrassed the 12-0 Democrat School Board, the usual suspects are going to claim they are perfectly acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so a parent brings up a legitimate complaint about pedophilia in a high school library and we are somehow talking about trump and youngkin?

Step away from politics for two seconds. Kiddy porn shouldn’t be supported by either party!

The problem is that it’s utterly illegitimate. There is no pornography involved. And idiot dupes like you just keep repeating the lies without even bothering to read either book that you’re so lathered up about. It’s reprehensible. You are reprehensible. You are getting your dopamine hits from repeating outrage manufactured by political operatives.

You
Haven’t
Read
Either
Book

You are actually taking time out of your day to post in favor of banning a. Book you have never read. What happened to you as a child that made you so easily led?

Honest question? Were those images I saw on Twitter of animated oral sex not accurate? Cause there’s no way that’s not pornography

First, I don’t get my news from Twitter. I have no idea if those were images from the book and neither do you. Why don’t you read the book before you comment?

Second, no. The images that I have seen from the book are not pornography. They are not in any way intended to make the viewer sexually aroused. They were not salacious or gratuitous. I’m not a fan of the book but no one who actually read it can claim that it’s purpose is to sexually arose the reader. There are also graphic depictions of bloody sanitary napkins. Are you in the demographic that gets off on those? It’s a coming of age story filled with awkwardness and weirdness and uncomfortable stuff. Kind of like life. Not my cup of tea but no one is forcing me or my son to check it out from the library. If it will make another kid feel seen or help a kid understand someone else’s story and be more empathetic, an awkward daring of a sex act seems a small price to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so a parent brings up a legitimate complaint about pedophilia in a high school library and we are somehow talking about trump and youngkin?

Step away from politics for two seconds. Kiddy porn shouldn’t be supported by either party!

The problem is that it’s utterly illegitimate. There is no pornography involved. And idiot dupes like you just keep repeating the lies without even bothering to read either book that you’re so lathered up about. It’s reprehensible. You are reprehensible. You are getting your dopamine hits from repeating outrage manufactured by political operatives.

You
Haven’t
Read
Either
Book

You are actually taking time out of your day to post in favor of banning a. Book you have never read. What happened to you as a child that made you so easily led?

Honest question? Were those images I saw on Twitter of animated oral sex not accurate? Cause there’s no way that’s not pornography

Let’s see what happens if the students at all the schools with copies of this book try to include these images in their student yearbooks. The odds are 99.5% they’d be censored by the faculty advisors or principals.

But because they were called out at a meeting that embarrassed the 12-0 Democrat School Board, the usual suspects are going to claim they are perfectly acceptable.

“I’d like two things that are not equivalent, Alex”

One book out of 50,000 in a school library collection is not equal to a school sponsored publication that is distributed to the entire student body. The same way me telling my best friend privately about my period pain is not the same as delivering a high school commencement so each on the same topic.

Why is this so hard?

(Because you are responding to trolls. No one is actually This stupid. Right?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gender Queer does not have any underage sex acts. The main character is a virgin until age 25. But there is talk/graphics about menstruation, breasts, vagina, pretending to have a penis, etc.

Later when the main character is much older there is more sexualized talk. Perhaps it’s better for a college library than high school.

I don't want my child in any school where they read about or talk about their genitals unless it's in a scientific or medical discussion. It's NOT appropriate.

Same poster - If it's not appropriate to discuss at work, it's not appropriate at school. I cannot go to a coworkers office and talk about my genitals or sex. We have trainings for that. It is considered sexual harassment.

No one was discussing it. It’s a library book your teen can check out on their own.

So, could I provide the excerpts in question to my coworkers or boss? How about if I pretend the main character is myself, and I email the story about "me" to my coworkers and boss? How about in a federal workplace? Would I be safe from a sexual harassment complaint? NO. Because it's inappropriate.

How will children today comprehend what is sexually appropriate vs. inappropriate when they in a professional setting? I forsee a lot of blunders landing these future workers in very hot water because their view of "appropriate" will be so, so divergent than our own upbringing.

If I started emailing my coworkers excepts from The Bible or the Quran, I'd get in trouble. Does that mean we need to take those of the shelves of school libraries?

Wait.. what? The Quran and the Bible are in the school library... now that could really get the RNC ginned up. Alert the press.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gender Queer does not have any underage sex acts. The main character is a virgin until age 25. But there is talk/graphics about menstruation, breasts, vagina, pretending to have a penis, etc.

Later when the main character is much older there is more sexualized talk. Perhaps it’s better for a college library than high school.

I don't want my child in any school where they read about or talk about their genitals unless it's in a scientific or medical discussion. It's NOT appropriate.

Same poster - If it's not appropriate to discuss at work, it's not appropriate at school. I cannot go to a coworkers office and talk about my genitals or sex. We have trainings for that. It is considered sexual harassment.

No one was discussing it. It’s a library book your teen can check out on their own.

So, could I provide the excerpts in question to my coworkers or boss? How about if I pretend the main character is myself, and I email the story about "me" to my coworkers and boss? How about in a federal workplace? Would I be safe from a sexual harassment complaint? NO. Because it's inappropriate.

How will children today comprehend what is sexually appropriate vs. inappropriate when they in a professional setting? I forsee a lot of blunders landing these future workers in very hot water because their view of "appropriate" will be so, so divergent than our own upbringing.

If I started emailing my coworkers excepts from The Bible or the Quran, I'd get in trouble. Does that mean we need to take those of the shelves of school libraries?

Wait.. what? The Quran and the Bible are in the school library... now that could really get the RNC ginned up. Alert the press.

🚨 🚨 🚨 GOP OUTRAGE ALERT 🚨 🚨 🚨

Attention, brainless plebes. Please be aware that FCPS has disgusting filth - the Bible and Quran - in the school libraries.

Proceed with full outrage mode.