Data on Wilson graduates' admissions to university

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Anonymous wrote:Wilson had an off year last year. Why? Probably due coronavirus...maybe due to the stupidity of Honors for All? Maybe it just went that way. I wouldn't worry too much - a guy did a study for years comparing Wilson to privates and Wilson more then held his own. He tracked Lafayette Elementary school students.

Just Google and searched this site but couldn't find it. Anyone out there know what I'm talking about?

Here's thread with some discussion - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/387903.page

The take away from that thread is what hurts Wilson kids is the amount of attention paid to struggling kids and the lack of counselors to motivate and guide the high achieving kids.

My advice -with a Sophmore and Junior is to talk to a college counselor during their freshman year. Insane, right? But, they will provided guidance on what your kid needs to do based on their scores/transcripts/goals. It gave me the motivation to fight hard for my kids to be put in the right AP Classes. Or rather the motivation to get my kids to do it - which they do. I figure they will be old pros at working the system by the time to get to college.

That review of graduates is now about 15 years old. Maybe 20.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

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Previous poster.
Coming = comparing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

And what is “good” in your elitist mind? Do you realize it was a shitshow everywhere last year? And news flash - you are not a loser if you don’t go to an Ivy or a public like Michigan, Berkeley, UVA and such. I weep for your children, I’m sure you’ve totally messed them up.

[Anonymous]

And threads like this are exactly why we’re encouraging our Wilson student to look far outside this area. Criticizing students’ acceptances and choices with little to zero idea of what their circumstances are is a blood sport here.

What if a student wants to be near relatives out of state? What if an ultra competitive environment is bad for their mental health? What if their family needs financial aid to make college happen? What if they found a place they really connect with that feels like the right fit? There is a whole world out there and lots of paths.

There are plenty of situations that are private and between the student and their family. I get that everyone wants what is best for their own kid. We do too. But critiquing the perceived value of students’ choices most of whom are complete strangers to the critics here, is inappropriate, harsh, and unnecessary. Focus on your own child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

And what is “good” in your elitist mind? Do you realize it was a shitshow everywhere last year? And news flash - you are not a loser if you don’t go to an Ivy or a public like Michigan, Berkeley, UVA and such. I weep for your children, I’m sure you’ve totally messed them up.

You need to chill the heck out. No where did I say that I expect or want my kids to attend top schools. I could actually care less about Ivies or similar.
I'm simply stating the facts. Up thread someone posted that Wilson grads go to "X, Y and Z top schools". The fact is that this really didn't happen last year. No where did I say that this was a shame, a problem or something that will derail the plans I have for my kids.
The FACT is that Whitman and Walls UMC kids--as a population--went to much better schools than UMC kids from Wilson did last year. Personally I would be happy as a clam with Wisconsin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

And what is “good” in your elitist mind? Do you realize it was a shitshow everywhere last year? And news flash - you are not a loser if you don’t go to an Ivy or a public like Michigan, Berkeley, UVA and such. I weep for your children, I’m sure you’ve totally messed them up.

NP. No kids at either school but you must have missed the discussion above that every school dealt with Covid last year so it’s not a valid excuse for Wilson.

No one is getting personal. No one said your kid is a loser. But facts are facts and Wilson did not do well on college admissions especially considering the SES of many of the kids there.

You seem to have anger issues and major defensiveness about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And threads like this are exactly why we’re encouraging our Wilson student to look far outside this area. Criticizing students’ acceptances and choices with little to zero idea of what their circumstances are is a blood sport here.

What if a student wants to be near relatives out of state? What if an ultra competitive environment is bad for their mental health? What if their family needs financial aid to make college happen? What if they found a place they really connect with that feels like the right fit? There is a whole world out there and lots of paths.

There are plenty of situations that are private and between the student and their family. I get that everyone wants what is best for their own kid. We do too. But critiquing the perceived value of students’ choices most of whom are complete strangers to the critics here, is inappropriate, harsh, and unnecessary. Focus on your own child.

If the top students at a school aren’t getting in the top colleges, are any of the students from the school getting in the full set of options they wish they had? Probably not.

[Anonymous]

So based on this analysis (and your criteria for a top school), you won’t be sendzing your DC to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So based on this analysis (and your criteria for a top school), you won’t be sendzing your DC to Wilson.

Actually I have a kid there right now. I don't care about my kid attending a top college. Would be thrilled with Wisconsin. I attended a far worse school and turned out well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

And what is “good” in your elitist mind? Do you realize it was a shitshow everywhere last year? And news flash - you are not a loser if you don’t go to an Ivy or a public like Michigan, Berkeley, UVA and such. I weep for your children, I’m sure you’ve totally messed them up.

You need to chill the heck out. No where did I say that I expect or want my kids to attend top schools. I could actually care less about Ivies or similar.
I'm simply stating the facts. Up thread someone posted that Wilson grads go to "X, Y and Z top schools". The fact is that this really didn't happen last year. No where did I say that this was a shame, a problem or something that will derail the plans I have for my kids.
The FACT is that Whitman and Walls UMC kids--as a population--went to much better schools than UMC kids from Wilson did last year. Personally I would be happy as a clam with Wisconsin.

+1 I’m sure PP did her best to make sure she got into the “elite” DCPS catchment so that her kid would receive an education that would not limit possibilities, and how she’s pissed and calling others elitist because she was wrong about what Wilson can offer.

[Anonymous]

First. World. Problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First. World. Problems.

But I don’t live in the third world, and houses zoned for Wilson cost $1M+.

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Anonymous wrote:From a May 2021 PTSO newsletter:

Wilson’s Class of 2021 has students going off to public universities and colleges across the U.S. like: Arizona State University; University of California; University of Delaware; George Mason University; Indiana University; University of Maryland; University of Michigan; University of Oregon; Penn State University; University of Pittsburgh; Rutgers University; University of Texas - Austin; University of Utah; Virginia Tech; University of Virginia; University of Wisconsin – Madison.

Wilson Tigers ‘ 21 will represent at historically black colleges and universities (HBCU), including: Delaware State University; Hampton University; Howard University; Kent State University; Morgan State University; North Carolina A&T; Spellman College; West Virginia State University.

Class of ’21 Grads are also headed to private institutions of all sizes and in all parts of the U.S.: American University; Amherst College; Bates College; Bethany College; Brown University; United States Coast Guard; Cornell University; University of Denver; Embry Riddle Aeronautical University; Emory University; Fordham University; Georgetown University; Grand Valley State University; Hope College; Johns Hopkins University; McDaniel College; University of Miami (FL); Mount St. Mary’s University; Northeastern University; Pace University; Rice University; College of San Mateo; Skidmore College; Temple University; Trinity Washington University; Tufts University; Tulane University; Washington University, St. Louis; Wesleyan University; Vassar College.

And we have Tigers headed to international universities, such as: University of Edinburgh (Scotland); Franklin University (Switzerland); IE University (Spain); Université Laval (Canada); McGill University (Canada); University of Toronto (Canada); University of Waterloo (Canada); Universidad Rafael Landivar (Guatamala).

Uhhhh....Kent State is definitely not an HBCU.

I think they meant Kentucky State.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Temple is public. I would be worried about the counseling office.

Temple is sort of public -- it gets state funds, but it's not operated as part of the state university system and basically operates as if it were private.