Data on Wilson graduates' admissions to university
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Anonymous
My DC consistently failed PARCC. Every year. DC was in top 10% of his class. Lo and behold DC later scored a 34 on the ACT with a perfect score in one subject. While it annoys me to no end, and this is but one example, I wouldn't go by this metric. There's not a lot of incentive to do well on the PARCC unfortunately. DC is now at a top-25 college and doing fine. |
Anonymous
Naviance applications are self- reported = not reliable data. The truth is that students, their parents and schools are under no obligation to report whom applies where, or what the result is when students complete and submit applications. Naviance data needs to be taken not just with a grain of salt, but a bag. I attended an Ivy and work in admissions. |
Anonymous
It’s who applies where (not whom), Ms. Ivy League. |
Anonymous
Same situation here and I agree with this assessment. My “top student” at Wilson did less than half the work of my probably-not-a-top student (hard to tell without rankings) in private school. The Wilson student struck out on Ivy Leagues but got into Cal, Michigan, and UCLA, and happily attends one of them. No results yet for the other kid. The Wilson kid enjoyed school more but the bureaucracy was crazy. Major scheduling issues every year, no help with the college application process at all (whereas friends at Walls and Latin seemed to have tons of help), and honestly just no help in general for kids who are aiming high. They are seen as nuisances. While I understand the focus on lower-performing kids at Wilson, kids are kids, and even the ones getting straight As need appropriate guidance and adults who make time for them and consider them when making huge decisions like switching to the 4-4 schedule. (it’s a very bad schedule for those taking more than one or two AP classes per year.) The kids at Wilson are great…it’s the adults running the place who seem to need a reboot. |
Anonymous
93% of the students who apply to HYPS do not get in. |
Anonymous
This is not the case at Wilson. The entire application process is managed through Naviance. In order to get recommendation letters and transcripts, you go through Naviance. Students are required to connect their Common App and Naviance accounts. Application data is exactly accurate. I'm very surprised that someone who works in admissions doesn't know this. It almost seems like you are entirely full of **** and making bold statements of fact about topics that you actually know nothing about. |
Anonymous
| In fact, I know too much. It's not true that a kid can't apply to a college at Wilson, or anywhere else, without having gone through Naviance. Applicants can, and occasionally do, collect general letters of recommendation, guidance counselor recommendations and sealed transcripts and send them on their own unbeknownst to the school. Keeping applications under wraps is far more common in private school settings, and abroad, but it can happen at Wilson. There is no rule that families have to advertise where students are applying via Naviance. A few Wilson families of top students rebel at essentially making their application choices public. Others start applications but never complete or submit them, although Naviance data reports that they did. Finally, admissions decisions can be kept private by families. With many programs, only the applicant is informed of the school's decision, not the school. A student may or may not report an admissions result via Naviance. Privacy matters. |
Anonymous
NP with a Wilson '21 senior. The application process is run through Naviance but the reporting of the application outcomes is voluntary. The one piece of concrete data that Wilson will have is where the student will be going because the student enters that info into Naviance in order to get a final transcript sent to his/her destination school. |
Anonymous
| The application process generally runs through Naviance at Wilson and other public schools in this Metro area, but not always. Students can collect generic recommendations (from teachers, coaches, mentors, employers, guidance counselors) and sealed transcripts that they send with applications themselves to keep from advertising where they're applying. If this weren't true, homeschoolers and students attending small high schools lacking guidance counselors couldn't apply. Colleges seldom care how recommendations arrive, as long as they're authentic, well-written and informative and school and recommenders can be reached via contact info provided. Guidance counselors cannot stop kids from applying to certain colleges, insist on knowing where they're applying, or force applicants to keep them informed of admissions outcomes. Public school families only think they can. |
Anonymous
Actually, Wilson students have a legal right to pick up sealed final transcripts to send to destination schools themselves, without having entered anything into Naviance. This is done by a few rebels, sometimes on the advice of private college coaches, to the consternation of guidance counselors. |
Anonymous
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We had Wilson send an official transcript to a third party, Parchment, which sent the transcript on to colleges for a fee. The forwarded transcripts were accepted by all the schools my kid applied to. Some kids get stressed out when all sorts of advisors, teachers and peers know where they're applying, which seldom helps them shine in admissions. March to your own drummer if dealing with the associated headaches is worth it to you. That's often how things worked pre Naviance.
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Anonymous
The claim that I was responding to was that APPLICATION data is inaccurate, My 2020 Wilson grad kid absolutely could not get transcripts and recommendations without going through Naviance. It was very difficult to get counselors to submit information only slightly late (for get on time, didn't happen) when going through the official process. I can't imagine trying to get them to follow a nonstandard process. Do you have any evidence whatsoever that kids are successful in getting extremely overworked, disorganized counseling center staff to circumvent their own process? |
Anonymous
The application data certainly is inaccurate on Naviance. My Wilson '21 grad put a bunch of schools on her Naviance account that she later decided not to apply to. I'm certain that the transcripts were sent but DC never actually ended up applying for one reason or another. |
Anonymous
What we did at Wilson was order a transcript for self pick-up the minute new grades were in at various junctures during senior year. We sent transcripts with the most recent grades to Parchment and they forwarded it to colleges for a modest fee. None of the 10 colleges our kid applied to rejected the Parchment sent transcript. Transcript forwarding service have become popular in an age when many public school guidance counselors have hundreds of kids to advise. We didn't trust Wilson to send our kids' transcripts to colleges on time, or anything else for that matter. We also collected our own recommendations and counselor's report. Much better to deal with Parchment and those writing recommendations directly than to deal with Wilson's counselors. Pick your poison. |
Anonymous
Yes it is, Naviance data can convince you that more students applied to certain colleges, and more were rejected, than was truly the case. |