Quelle horreur! Elrich wants to impose vaccine passports in Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d prefer nation wide

Jim Eagle policy that would disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. I can see why MoCo would want it though.

EVERYTHING disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. Sorry, but other countries manage.

+1 including covid

What is stopping poor and minorities from getting the vaccine?

You tell me. You're the one who wants to implement this racist and inequitable policy nationwide.

[Anonymous]

Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

Also,

- Increasing smugness by coastal liberals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d prefer nation wide

Jim Eagle policy that would disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. I can see why MoCo would want it though.

EVERYTHING disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. Sorry, but other countries manage.

+1 including covid

What is stopping poor and minorities from getting the vaccine?

If by now they are refusing a vaccination and coercion is what it takes to overcome their ignorance so be it.

[Anonymous]

“ However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. ”
Reference please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Coercion is worse than simply coming out with a mandate. If you're going to go there, own it.

I don't understand this point of view. This isn't coercion. With a vaccine passport policy, people still have a choice of whether or not to get vaccinated.

You should look up what coercion means.

Its too easy to hide behind a claim that it's voluntary when it's not really voluntary if it is designed to be coercive.

Coercion: the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

How are people being forced to take the vaccine? How are people being threatened to take the vaccine? I think vaccines ought to be mandated but if conservatives are going to bleat about freedoms in protest, then a passport is a great compromise. People will still have the freedom not to get vaccinated if it's important to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

Also,

- Increasing smugness by coastal liberals

Sorry to hear that you're triggered by facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d prefer nation wide

Jim Eagle policy that would disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. I can see why MoCo would want it though.

EVERYTHING disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. Sorry, but other countries manage.

+1 including covid

What is stopping poor and minorities from getting the vaccine?

You tell me. You're the one who wants to implement this racist and inequitable policy nationwide.

DP... Elrich is a SJW uber progressive. If he really thought this would hurt poor minorities so much, he wouldn't advocate for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“ However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. ”
Reference please.

DP.. google is your friend

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

Also,

- Increasing smugness by coastal liberals

Are you saying that the vaccine is good at increasing smugness by coastal liberals? Not in my experience. The vaccine may be good at inducing fury among vaccinated people towards people who refuse to get vaccinated and thereby prolong the pandemic. And it's true that, overall, vaccination rates are lower among people who don't identify as Republicans. But that's really an issue for Republicans, and the Republican Party, to address. Why aren't they strongly urging their potential voters to go get this life-saving, economy-saving vaccine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

Also,

- Increasing smugness by coastal liberals

Are you saying that the vaccine is good at increasing smugness by coastal liberals? Not in my experience. The vaccine may be good at inducing fury among vaccinated people towards people who refuse to get vaccinated and thereby prolong the pandemic. And it's true that, overall, vaccination rates are lower among people who don't identify as Republicans. But that's really an issue for Republicans, and the Republican Party, to address. Why aren't they strongly urging their potential voters to go get this life-saving, economy-saving vaccine?

Yes, the 72 percent of young Black New Yorkers who refuse to get vaccinated are the responsibility of the GOP. Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

Also,

- Increasing smugness by coastal liberals

Are you saying that the vaccine is good at increasing smugness by coastal liberals? Not in my experience. The vaccine may be good at inducing fury among vaccinated people towards people who refuse to get vaccinated and thereby prolong the pandemic. And it's true that, overall, vaccination rates are lower among people who don't identify as Republicans. But that's really an issue for Republicans, and the Republican Party, to address. Why aren't they strongly urging their potential voters to go get this life-saving, economy-saving vaccine?

Yes, the 72 percent of young Black New Yorkers who refuse to get vaccinated are the responsibility of the GOP. Lol.

A lot of so-called progressives don’t understand, or want to understand, why some POC are hesitant to get the vaccine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine doesn't prevent viral transmission.
Look at data from Israel, current positive cases are skyrocketing, higher then two peaks back in Sept 2020 and Jan. Of 2021.
Among the people who became positive during a outbreak in New England, viral load are the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
The vaccine is good to prevent people getting too sick.

Is it 100% effective at preventing infection? No.

However, vaccinated people are five times less likely to become infected than vaccinated people. That's a lot.

The vaccine is good at

-reducing infection with SARS-CoV-2
-reducing illness from covid
-reducing serious illness from covid
-reducing hospitalization due to covid
-reducing death due to covid

Also,

- Increasing smugness by coastal liberals

Are you saying that the vaccine is good at increasing smugness by coastal liberals? Not in my experience. The vaccine may be good at inducing fury among vaccinated people towards people who refuse to get vaccinated and thereby prolong the pandemic. And it's true that, overall, vaccination rates are lower among people who don't identify as Republicans. But that's really an issue for Republicans, and the Republican Party, to address. Why aren't they strongly urging their potential voters to go get this life-saving, economy-saving vaccine?

Yes, the 72 percent of young Black New Yorkers who refuse to get vaccinated are the responsibility of the GOP. Lol.

Give it a rest. There are unvaccinated non-Republicans, and there are vaccinated Republicans, but overall, Trump-voting counties have much lower vaccination rates.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates-is-growing/

[Anonymous]

To go to a bar or restaurant(and perhaps grocery store?) you need permission from the government. No one sees any problems with this?