Last resort plan if DCPS / WTU doesn't do full-time IPL after all?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

oh sorry, misread! I agree, kids are at low risk even if they get covid.

I hate the idea of my kid getting covid, but I also know he needs to be in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

Um, maybe you should enroll in an online school to brush up on your reading? I said kids are LOW risk, so we are in perfect agreement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

oh sorry, misread! I agree, kids are at low risk even if they get covid.

I hate the idea of my kid getting covid, but I also know he needs to be in school.

Apology accepted. I feel the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like my kids' elementary charter is setting the stage for more virtual learning in the fall.

Which one and why/how? Seems criminal to me. Per pupil funding should be adjusted for the number of students in person at any given time. They can't go on accepting facility funding, normal custodial funding, etc. for closed schools.

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https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/9-children-in-alabama-hospitalized-from-covid-19-one-on-ventilator-as-delta-spreads.html

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a really bad thing that could happen - if delta or other variants increase, low-income wards vax rates stay low, COVID spreads and schools in those wards must close, for the sake of equity DCPS/WTU will not keep all DCPS schools open for IPL. What is your last resort plan? If you can afford it, are there shitty private schools that will have slots available and you could put your kid there? I have a rising K who did all of PK "online" and it sucked. I have a rising 4th grader who loves learning and cannot do another year of 2 hours per day in person. HELP.

First. That’s never going to happen. Schools in upper NW opened 4 full days a week. No one central office or Bowser gave a crap that schools in other wards didn’t open.

Our school didn’t. And only one teacher in PK-1st showed up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a really bad thing that could happen - if delta or other variants increase, low-income wards vax rates stay low, COVID spreads and schools in those wards must close, for the sake of equity DCPS/WTU will not keep all DCPS schools open for IPL. What is your last resort plan? If you can afford it, are there shitty private schools that will have slots available and you could put your kid there? I have a rising K who did all of PK "online" and it sucked. I have a rising 4th grader who loves learning and cannot do another year of 2 hours per day in person. HELP.

First. That’s never going to happen. Schools in upper NW opened 4 full days a week. No one central office or Bowser gave a crap that schools in other wards didn’t open.

Our school didn’t. And only one teacher in PK-1st showed up.

Our JKLM did not. My kid was in school 2 mornings per week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a really bad thing that could happen - if delta or other variants increase, low-income wards vax rates stay low, COVID spreads and schools in those wards must close, for the sake of equity DCPS/WTU will not keep all DCPS schools open for IPL. What is your last resort plan? If you can afford it, are there shitty private schools that will have slots available and you could put your kid there? I have a rising K who did all of PK "online" and it sucked. I have a rising 4th grader who loves learning and cannot do another year of 2 hours per day in person. HELP.

First. That’s never going to happen. Schools in upper NW opened 4 full days a week. No one central office or Bowser gave a crap that schools in other wards didn’t open.

Our school didn’t. And only one teacher in PK-1st showed up.

Our JKLM did not. My kid was in school 2 mornings per week.

Did the post say ALL schools? But the point still stands. Bowser and central office didn’t care that some schools opened and some didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a really bad thing that could happen - if delta or other variants increase, low-income wards vax rates stay low, COVID spreads and schools in those wards must close, for the sake of equity DCPS/WTU will not keep all DCPS schools open for IPL. What is your last resort plan? If you can afford it, are there shitty private schools that will have slots available and you could put your kid there? I have a rising K who did all of PK "online" and it sucked. I have a rising 4th grader who loves learning and cannot do another year of 2 hours per day in person. HELP.

First. That’s never going to happen. Schools in upper NW opened 4 full days a week. No one central office or Bowser gave a crap that schools in other wards didn’t open.

Our school didn’t. And only one teacher in PK-1st showed up.

Our JKLM did not. My kid was in school 2 mornings per week.

Did the post say ALL schools? But the point still stands. Bowser and central office didn’t care that some schools opened and some didn’t.

NP. No, it didn't say ALL. But saying "Schools in upper NW opened four full days a week" strongly implies that the poster thought all of them did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/9-children-in-alabama-hospitalized-from-covid-19-one-on-ventilator-as-delta-spreads.html

ok? well, let's get the adults vaccinated. flu is very dangerous to kids and we don't shut down the schools because of it.
https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20190205/bad-flu-seasons-test-us-hospitals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an older student - I might drop them off at the school each day and inform the school that IEP is not being met at home.

I will repeat this daily and then do parental placement and have the district pay for private.

that’s kind of brilliant

But you won’t win, so what have you achieved, actually?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

"as solid as can be expected right now" lololol. Okay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's only brilliant if there is a private SN school that would take your kid, has open spaced and that you can afford to pay for out of pocket. Tiny minority of kids with IEPs could meet those criteria.

NP but PP is saying they would build a case that DCPS is unable to provide services and therefore the kid needs at out of district placement. DCPS will have to foot the bill for the private placement. And they will have to find a school with an opening and provide transport.

Its not the huge win you think it is, if you have toured any of the private special ed schools that accept placements.