Last resort plan if DCPS / WTU doesn't do full-time IPL after all?

[Anonymous]

I will rent an apartment in a jurisdiction where schools are open and live there for a year.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

"as solid as can be expected right now" lololol. Okay.

I’m not sure what you think is so funny. Closing schools is a massive, costly intervetion. It’s not something that we can do just because you read a blog post on Long Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like my kids' elementary charter is setting the stage for more virtual learning in the fall.

Which one and why/how? Seems criminal to me. Per pupil funding should be adjusted for the number of students in person at any given time. They can't go on accepting facility funding, normal custodial funding, etc. for closed schools.

They can’t save on HVAC or electricity because a few kids left. Large buildings don’t work that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an older student - I might drop them off at the school each day and inform the school that IEP is not being met at home.

I will repeat this daily and then do parental placement and have the district pay for private.

that’s kind of brilliant

As the parent of a kid with SN, I sympathize but no, it’s not. Imagine being that kid.

And you have no idea how difficult it is to get private placement out of DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

"as solid as can be expected right now" lololol. Okay.

I’m not sure what you think is so funny. Closing schools is a massive, costly intervetion. It’s not something that we can do just because you read a blog post on Long Covid.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

"as solid as can be expected right now" lololol. Okay.

I’m not sure what you think is so funny. Closing schools is a massive, costly intervetion. It’s not something that we can do just because you read a blog post on Long Covid.

I think it's hilarious that you backtracked research "shows" to "is as solid as can be expected right now." Research doesn't know right now. And it isn't a blog post on long covid. It's a scientific journal I, and every scientist I've ever worked with, has strived to publish in our whole careers. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01935-7

14 July 2021
Long COVID and kids: scientists race to find answers
Children get long COVID too, but researchers are still working to determine how frequently and how severely.

"Closing schools" isn't what happens, by the way. Schools shift to distance learning. DCPS just collected the devices our students had learned with all year. Distributing them again in five weeks might be big and costly, but not quite as massive and costly as when they did it last year.

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Moved my oldest out of DCPS already thank god (6th).
My youngest actually did OK with online learning although I very much prefer them to be in person and don’t think online school is an adequate substitute.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

"as solid as can be expected right now" lololol. Okay.

I’m not sure what you think is so funny. Closing schools is a massive, costly intervetion. It’s not something that we can do just because you read a blog post on Long Covid.

I think it's hilarious that you backtracked research "shows" to "is as solid as can be expected right now." Research doesn't know right now. And it isn't a blog post on long covid. It's a scientific journal I, and every scientist I've ever worked with, has strived to publish in our whole careers. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01935-7

14 July 2021
Long COVID and kids: scientists race to find answers
Children get long COVID too, but researchers are still working to determine how frequently and how severely.

"Closing schools" isn't what happens, by the way. Schools shift to distance learning. DCPS just collected the devices our students had learned with all year. Distributing them again in five weeks might be big and costly, but not quite as massive and costly as when they did it last year.

NP. You are beyond help if you repeat the trope that DL means schools are open, and if you don’t understand what the PP meant by “costs”. Now we know where you are coming from, Mme. Scientist.

[Anonymous]

I will move for the year, without any question

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

Go wear your N95 alone in your car.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who can leave DCPS, will. People are not going to put up with WTU’s antics again.

[Anonymous]

I find it tough to believe that Democratic politicians are idiotic enough to keep schools closed again this year with an election coming up in 2022. They are already going to lose, but they will get absolutely smoked if they poke that bear again.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an older student - I might drop them off at the school each day and inform the school that IEP is not being met at home.

I will repeat this daily and then do parental placement and have the district pay for private.

that’s kind of brilliant

But you won’t win, so what have you achieved, actually?

how do you know? I have conversations documented from teachers stating that school is not delivering what needs while remote.
Translation - they are not providing FAPE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an older student - I might drop them off at the school each day and inform the school that IEP is not being met at home.

I will repeat this daily and then do parental placement and have the district pay for private.

LOL. Good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an older student - I might drop them off at the school each day and inform the school that IEP is not being met at home.

I will repeat this daily and then do parental placement and have the district pay for private.

that’s kind of brilliant

Wow, I can't believe there are two of you who are this dumb.

Enjoy your little revenge fantasy, but just know that in reality, this will never, never happen.