Last resort plan if DCPS / WTU doesn't do full-time IPL after all?

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Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

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We already moved. Enough with the totally unscientific school closures, thanks. Best thing we ever did. People are warmer and kinder, our housing is practically free, and our income is the same or more due to remote work. Vote with your feet.

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We will move or we can’t find a private with spots. I’m not confident we will get 5 days week. I’m just not!

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

Really? What is the legal basis in your view, counselor?

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

I’m in

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Anonymous wrote:It's only brilliant if there is a private SN school that would take your kid, has open spaced and that you can afford to pay for out of pocket. Tiny minority of kids with IEPs could meet those criteria.

NP but PP is saying they would build a case that DCPS is unable to provide services and therefore the kid needs at out of district placement. DCPS will have to foot the bill for the private placement. And they will have to find a school with an opening and provide transport.

Its not the huge win you think it is, if you have toured any of the private special ed schools that accept placements.

My kid got private placement and we are very happy with the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

I’m in

Same. And I actually think you could do a taxpayer suit as well. Schools are publicly funded and it should be a massive scandal that those public funds are being funneled into a system that is not providing even the bare minimum of services as mandated by law.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not think this scenario is far-fetched, considering the public figures saying even today that masks are becoming necessary again, in-doors, even if you are vaccinated.

However, I think it is a real stretch to predict that the high schools won't open, as those kids are vaccine-eligible. I think DCPS will require those kids to be vaccinated in the classroom.

But the trouble is for the under-12 year olds who, so far, are not vaccine-eligible. Even with masks, there will be social distancing requirements for the unvaccinated, which will not allow for in-person schooling 5 days per week. Every parents' choice will be up to their own resources, that point, terribly.

I thought we were done with the idea that social distancing made a difference for an airborne virus?

Let’s hope you are wrong. Young kids are at low risk. They need school.

I hope I am wrong, too -- but I am not wrong about social distancing indoors (although it makes less of a difference, the longer anyone spends in a non-ventilated room) and the latest data on the Delta variant is that kids are no longer low risk. The Delta infects kids at a rate significantly higher than the 1.0 version.

Even with delta, kids are still at low risk for serious illness or Long Covid.

No, they aren’t. Research shows “long covid” is minimal in kids.

Again, feel free to join Friendship Online Charter. Leave the rest of us alone.

No "research" shows no such unambiguous thing. We. don't. know. yet. The most optimistic study brought up shows at least 2% of infected kids get some long covid symptoms. We know very little about what proportion gets debilitating symptoms, when/if they subside, how level of infection, predisposition, age, variant, treatment of initial infection all impact likelihood, severity, duration of long-covid.
But, no, there is no consensus of research showing that it's minimal in kids. It is a huge area of concern for experts around the world, particularly in the UK, where they've YOLO'ed kids into schools unmasked and are "celebrating" reopening day today, halfway through a huge spike in cases.

No, the research is as solid as can be expected right now. And we DO know that shutting schools for TWO YEARS is very harmful. Once again for those of you in the back - feel free to stay home and enroll in Friendship Online.

"as solid as can be expected right now" lololol. Okay.

I’m not sure what you think is so funny. Closing schools is a massive, costly intervetion. It’s not something that we can do just because you read a blog post on Long Covid.

I think it's hilarious that you backtracked research "shows" to "is as solid as can be expected right now." Research doesn't know right now. And it isn't a blog post on long covid. It's a scientific journal I, and every scientist I've ever worked with, has strived to publish in our whole careers. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01935-7

14 July 2021
Long COVID and kids: scientists race to find answers
Children get long COVID too, but researchers are still working to determine how frequently and how severely.

"Closing schools" isn't what happens, by the way. Schools shift to distance learning. DCPS just collected the devices our students had learned with all year. Distributing them again in five weeks might be big and costly, but not quite as massive and costly as when they did it last year.

Let me put this to you clearly: the theoretical risk of “long covid” is outweighed by the harms of closing schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like my kids' elementary charter is setting the stage for more virtual learning in the fall.

Which one and why/how? Seems criminal to me. Per pupil funding should be adjusted for the number of students in person at any given time. They can't go on accepting facility funding, normal custodial funding, etc. for closed schools.

They can’t save on HVAC or electricity because a few kids left. Large buildings don’t work that way.

No. You misunderstand. They take BIG chunks of change that have nothing to do with direct education services (i.e., teacher salaries) and they want to keep all of that money and also tell you it is not safe for them to provide in person learning but worry not, you will get a "high quality virtual learning" experience (i.e., 2 30min sessions a day with a teacher fading in and out of zoom). It was not done in good faith at many schools and if they want to keep providing a fraction of their services, they should get a fraction of the funding.

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Anonymous wrote:It's only brilliant if there is a private SN school that would take your kid, has open spaced and that you can afford to pay for out of pocket. Tiny minority of kids with IEPs could meet those criteria.

NP but PP is saying they would build a case that DCPS is unable to provide services and therefore the kid needs at out of district placement. DCPS will have to foot the bill for the private placement. And they will have to find a school with an opening and provide transport.

Its not the huge win you think it is, if you have toured any of the private special ed schools that accept placements.

My kid got private placement and we are very happy with the school.

Which school?

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Parents: Stop with the anonymous school postings on this site. If you post, name the damn school. Otherwise your information is as suspect as it is useless.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

Really? What is the legal basis in your view, counselor?

LOL, seriously. I would love to hear it. -lawyer

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Anonymous wrote:It's only brilliant if there is a private SN school that would take your kid, has open spaced and that you can afford to pay for out of pocket. Tiny minority of kids with IEPs could meet those criteria.

NP but PP is saying they would build a case that DCPS is unable to provide services and therefore the kid needs at out of district placement. DCPS will have to foot the bill for the private placement. And they will have to find a school with an opening and provide transport.

Its not the huge win you think it is, if you have toured any of the private special ed schools that accept placements.

My kid got private placement and we are very happy with the school.

How long did it take? What did you have to show to be approved for private placement?

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

Really? What is the legal basis in your view, counselor?

LOL, seriously. I would love to hear it. -lawyer

Failure to educate; violation of equal access to education (since some schools managed to reopen while others refused, meaning some students were denied an education while others were not). Arbitrary and capricious application of non-scientific restrictions on children who are at low risk of COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit. Lots of parents were talking about it last year, in theory. If DCPS tries to keep schools closed again this coming year, they have more than ample grounds to file one.

Really? What is the legal basis in your view, counselor?

LOL, seriously. I would love to hear it. -lawyer

Failure to educate; violation of equal access to education (since some schools managed to reopen while others refused, meaning some students were denied an education while others were not). Arbitrary and capricious application of non-scientific restrictions on children who are at low risk of COVID.

Also, denial of children's constitutional right to a basic, minimum education (which NJ parents used as reasoning for suing their school districts successfully in federal court)