get over name brand / prestige obsession

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**takes notes in Harvard portfolio with Columbia pen**

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

I hear y’a OP. Those of us that do are just lurking is all.

Ha - me too. I appreciated your post OP. Have a junior and it is so easy to get caught up in this. I have to constantly remind myself of your message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:**takes notes in Harvard portfolio with Columbia pen**

Weird flex but ok? I have an MIT sweatshirt and a Harvard shirt and a Yale law pencil.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

Just look at the salary outcomes from the school and it obvious that IN GENERAL, higher ranked schools produce better outcomes.

Now control for parent salary. Oops, did we discover something we didn't mean to? Pull that curtain back into place!

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

Just look at the salary outcomes from the school and it obvious that IN GENERAL, higher ranked schools produce better outcomes.

Not really if you look at mid career salaries the highest ones outside Ivies are generally STEM schools not the highest ranked ones either

Such a weasly argument. Again IN GENERAL across all majors. Obviously you have a STEM degree because you lack basic critical thinking and reading comprehension skills.

People usually resort to name-calling when they can't debate any more on the facts.
No one is arguing that a kid from MIT will do better financially and have more opportunities generally speaking than a kid that is a VT if they both have the same major. My argument is that MAJOR, GPA and marketable knowledge is generally so much more important than where you go. Ask me how I know.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking back, one of my biggest regrets/missteps as a parent was putting way too much pressure on my kids to excel in school with the goal of getting into top colleges. The pressure worked, and they did do well and go "name brand," but fast forward a few years and it really didn't make much of a difference. They're all happy and successful, but so are their friends who didn't do as well as they did and didn't end up at top schools. Time is proving to be the great equalizer.

Just something for parents to keep in mind when they're still in the midst of things. I realize I'm probably preaching to the wrong crowd.

You are preaching to the wrong crowd because there are plenty of folks here who DID attend the top schools and know first hand the myriad advantages to having done so.

Also as you have clearly not attended a top school yourself, your children are also less likely to do so because the apple does not fall far from the tree. Despite the occasional genius outlier, it ain't happening for you regardless of the pressure you did or did not put on your kids.

Now stop wasting everyone's time and go away.

See the post above you talking about people who continue to obsess over their undergraduate school's ranking? You're Exhibit A. And you sound very defensive and very sad. And you obviously get off on being an anonymous internet bully. You're a real tough guy.

Obviously my statement of truth about wasting everyone's time as well as her own struck a chord.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

I hear y’a OP. Those of us that do are just lurking is all.

Ha - me too. I appreciated your post OP. Have a junior and it is so easy to get caught up in this. I have to constantly remind myself of your message.

You’re taking the copium real hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

Just look at the salary outcomes from the school and it obvious that IN GENERAL, higher ranked schools produce better outcomes.

Not really if you look at mid career salaries the highest ones outside Ivies are generally STEM schools not the highest ranked ones either

Such a weasly argument. Again IN GENERAL across all majors. Obviously you have a STEM degree because you lack basic critical thinking and reading comprehension skills.

People usually resort to name-calling when they can't debate any more on the facts.
No one is arguing that a kid from MIT will do better financially and have more opportunities generally speaking than a kid that is a VT if they both have the same major. My argument is that MAJOR, GPA and marketable knowledge is generally so much more important than where you go. Ask me how I know.

Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking back, one of my biggest regrets/missteps as a parent was putting way too much pressure on my kids to excel in school with the goal of getting into top colleges. The pressure worked, and they did do well and go "name brand," but fast forward a few years and it really didn't make much of a difference. They're all happy and successful, but so are their friends who didn't do as well as they did and didn't end up at top schools. Time is proving to be the great equalizer.

Just something for parents to keep in mind when they're still in the midst of things. I realize I'm probably preaching to the wrong crowd.

You are preaching to the wrong crowd because there are plenty of folks here who DID attend the top schools and know first hand the myriad advantages to having done so.

Also as you have clearly not attended a top school yourself, your children are also less likely to do so because the apple does not fall far from the tree. Despite the occasional genius outlier, it ain't happening for you regardless of the pressure you did or did not put on your kids.

Now stop wasting everyone's time and go away.

Didn't OP say her kids DID go to top schools?

OP here. I know I said "I'm out" but since this is directed directly towards me I'll answer. Yes, the kids went to what most of DCUM would label "top" schools. That was the whole point of the post, in fact -- they're all doing well, but so are their friends who didn't go to top schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking back, one of my biggest regrets/missteps as a parent was putting way too much pressure on my kids to excel in school with the goal of getting into top colleges. The pressure worked, and they did do well and go "name brand," but fast forward a few years and it really didn't make much of a difference. They're all happy and successful, but so are their friends who didn't do as well as they did and didn't end up at top schools. Time is proving to be the great equalizer.

Just something for parents to keep in mind when they're still in the midst of things. I realize I'm probably preaching to the wrong crowd.

You are preaching to the wrong crowd because there are plenty of folks here who DID attend the top schools and know first hand the myriad advantages to having done so.

Also as you have clearly not attended a top school yourself, your children are also less likely to do so because the apple does not fall far from the tree. Despite the occasional genius outlier, it ain't happening for you regardless of the pressure you did or did not put on your kids.

Now stop wasting everyone's time and go away.

Didn't OP say her kids DID go to top schools?

OP here. I know I said "I'm out" but since this is directed directly towards me I'll answer. Yes, the kids went to what most of DCUM would label "top" schools. That was the whole point of the post, in fact -- they're all doing well, but so are their friends who didn't go to top schools.

UMD is not a top school honey.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

I'm with OP. Those of us who let our kids choose colleges based on fit, without concern for prestige, will just sit back and wonder at the kids obsessing over ten SAT points of not having the right ECs while their parents breathe down their necks.

People like you ooze mediocrity .

Arrogant people like you are what make so-called elite schools (and their boosters) insufferable.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking back, one of my biggest regrets/missteps as a parent was putting way too much pressure on my kids to excel in school with the goal of getting into top colleges. The pressure worked, and they did do well and go "name brand," but fast forward a few years and it really didn't make much of a difference. They're all happy and successful, but so are their friends who didn't do as well as they did and didn't end up at top schools. Time is proving to be the great equalizer.

Just something for parents to keep in mind when they're still in the midst of things. I realize I'm probably preaching to the wrong crowd.

You are preaching to the wrong crowd because there are plenty of folks here who DID attend the top schools and know first hand the myriad advantages to having done so.

Also as you have clearly not attended a top school yourself, your children are also less likely to do so because the apple does not fall far from the tree. Despite the occasional genius outlier, it ain't happening for you regardless of the pressure you did or did not put on your kids.

Now stop wasting everyone's time and go away.

Didn't OP say her kids DID go to top schools?

OP here. I know I said "I'm out" but since this is directed directly towards me I'll answer. Yes, the kids went to what most of DCUM would label "top" schools. That was the whole point of the post, in fact -- they're all doing well, but so are their friends who didn't go to top schools.

UMD is not a top school honey.

Oh no, the "honey" poster has reared her ugly head. Literally, I'm sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

Just look at the salary outcomes from the school and it obvious that IN GENERAL, higher ranked schools produce better outcomes.

Not really if you look at mid career salaries the highest ones outside Ivies are generally STEM schools not the highest ranked ones either

Such a weasly argument. Again IN GENERAL across all majors. Obviously you have a STEM degree because you lack basic critical thinking and reading comprehension skills.

People usually resort to name-calling when they can't debate any more on the facts.
No one is arguing that a kid from MIT will do better financially and have more opportunities generally speaking than a kid that is a VT if they both have the same major. My argument is that MAJOR, GPA and marketable knowledge is generally so much more important than where you go. Ask me how I know.

+1 and I will add work ethic
in fact, drive and work ethic is the biggest predictor of success and one can not be taught or trained to have it

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Anonymous wrote:I think it makes a difference if you go to a tippy top school. Other than that, the next T50 don’t matter as much. The difference between a school like Tufts or Vanderbilt, say, is negligible even though Vandy is higher ranked. They are both great schools.

I there is another difference once you start past the T100 school. You may have more opportunities graduating from Emory than Appalachian, for instance.

But if you are talking T15-T50, it makes no difference.

You didn't understand my post at all. How old are your kids?

What are you talking about? The pp is spot on.

Sigh. I give up. Clearly you're still in the midst of all of this. Y'all can just go ahead and split hairs between schools and tiers like you always do. As I said, I should have known I was preaching to the wrong crowd.

I'm out.

Just look at the salary outcomes from the school and it obvious that IN GENERAL, higher ranked schools produce better outcomes.

Not really if you look at mid career salaries the highest ones outside Ivies are generally STEM schools not the highest ranked ones either

Such a weasly argument. Again IN GENERAL across all majors. Obviously you have a STEM degree because you lack basic critical thinking and reading comprehension skills.

People usually resort to name-calling when they can't debate any more on the facts.
No one is arguing that a kid from MIT will do better financially and have more opportunities generally speaking than a kid that is a VT if they both have the same major. My argument is that MAJOR, GPA and marketable knowledge is generally so much more important than where you go. Ask me how I know.

+1 and I will add work ethic
in fact, drive and work ethic is the biggest predictor of success and one can not be taught or trained to have it

And what do unhooked kids at top schools disproportionately have over kids from other schools?

[Anonymous]

It's amazing how many horrible people your post brought out of the woodwork, OP. It hits a nerve because they have so much riding on this stuff.

I'm with you, and these people who are obsessed with rankings and prestige must be insufferable in real life.