JD preferred jobs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no more of a dead end job than a document review attorney. What a mistake to go that route. How did you fall into it in the first place? Did you strike out of other jobs after graduating? How long have you been out of law school?

about 18 years. No luck finding jobs in law school and after. I realize this about doc review. I’m asking how I get out and into compliance or something else

Honestly, you need to re-tool completely. Act as if you don't even have a law degree, because for all practical purposes when it comes to future employment opportunities you don't. At this point it's as if you never went to law school.

I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. I have intimate knowledge of what your job entailed. Doing it for a couple of years is potentially ok -- you can dig yourself out of it into something at least law related. But doing it for as long as you have is a career killer. I'm sorry.

I can’t leave 20 years off my resume . Do you have any practical suggestions?

Yes. Go back to school. Or change directions entirely. Just stop thinking that, at this point, your law degree qualifies you for a "JD preferred" job. In your particular case, it doesn't. I'm sorry that that's not what you want to hear, but it's something you need to hear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no more of a dead end job than a document review attorney. What a mistake to go that route. How did you fall into it in the first place? Did you strike out of other jobs after graduating? How long have you been out of law school?

about 18 years. No luck finding jobs in law school and after. I realize this about doc review. I’m asking how I get out and into compliance or something else

Honestly, you need to re-tool completely. Act as if you don't even have a law degree, because for all practical purposes when it comes to future employment opportunities you don't. At this point it's as if you never went to law school.

I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. I have intimate knowledge of what your job entailed. Doing it for a couple of years is potentially ok -- you can dig yourself out of it into something at least law related. But doing it for as long as you have is a career killer. I'm sorry.

I can’t leave 20 years off my resume . Do you have any practical suggestions?

Yes. Go back to school. Or change directions entirely. Just stop thinking that, at this point, your law degree qualifies you for a "JD preferred" job. In your particular case, it doesn't. I'm sorry that that's not what you want to hear, but it's something you need to hear.

+1 get a new certificate or something in HR or compliance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no more of a dead end job than a document review attorney. What a mistake to go that route. How did you fall into it in the first place? Did you strike out of other jobs after graduating? How long have you been out of law school?

about 18 years. No luck finding jobs in law school and after. I realize this about doc review. I’m asking how I get out and into compliance or something else

Honestly, you need to re-tool completely. Act as if you don't even have a law degree, because for all practical purposes when it comes to future employment opportunities you don't. At this point it's as if you never went to law school.

I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. I have intimate knowledge of what your job entailed. Doing it for a couple of years is potentially ok -- you can dig yourself out of it into something at least law related. But doing it for as long as you have is a career killer. I'm sorry.

I can’t leave 20 years off my resume . Do you have any practical suggestions?

Yes. Go back to school. Or change directions entirely. Just stop thinking that, at this point, your law degree qualifies you for a "JD preferred" job. In your particular case, it doesn't. I'm sorry that that's not what you want to hear, but it's something you need to hear.

+1 get a new certificate or something in HR or compliance.

certificate in what type of compliance ?

[Anonymous]

It seems like I see a lot of compliance jobs in healthcare. Not sure if there's any particular certificate for that, though. Seems like a lot of medicare/medicaid type stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I remember you. What have you been doing since the last time you asked for advice on this board? Did you take any of the advice given then?

I don’t think you know me. What advice? I’ve applied for about 3 federal jobs each week for the past two years. Have gotten nothing

Have you asked for advice on this board before? Repeatedly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no more of a dead end job than a document review attorney. What a mistake to go that route. How did you fall into it in the first place? Did you strike out of other jobs after graduating? How long have you been out of law school?

about 18 years. No luck finding jobs in law school and after. I realize this about doc review. I’m asking how I get out and into compliance or something else

Honestly, you need to re-tool completely. Act as if you don't even have a law degree, because for all practical purposes when it comes to future employment opportunities you don't. At this point it's as if you never went to law school.

I hate to sound harsh, but it's the truth. I have intimate knowledge of what your job entailed. Doing it for a couple of years is potentially ok -- you can dig yourself out of it into something at least law related. But doing it for as long as you have is a career killer. I'm sorry.

I can’t leave 20 years off my resume . Do you have any practical suggestions?

Yes. Go back to school. Or change directions entirely. Just stop thinking that, at this point, your law degree qualifies you for a "JD preferred" job. In your particular case, it doesn't. I'm sorry that that's not what you want to hear, but it's something you need to hear.

+1 get a new certificate or something in HR or compliance.

certificate in what type of compliance ?

You serious man? Go research the options. This is how doc reviewers end up like this. They don’t take initiative and fall into whatever path of least resistance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I remember you. What have you been doing since the last time you asked for advice on this board? Did you take any of the advice given then?

I don’t think you know me. What advice? I’ve applied for about 3 federal jobs each week for the past two years. Have gotten nothing

Have you asked for advice on this board before? Repeatedly?

do you typically harass people here? If you don’t want to give advice why are you posting here? I’m sorry your life sucks but bullying people on here isn’t going to improve your life . Either give advice or shut up

[Anonymous]

What about legal aid or public interest where you feel purposeful and do doc review on the side if those jobs don't pay enough? Maybe something where you interact with more people to help w your depression. You've applied to fed jobs, but what about local government? Is it possible to do doc review part time to supplement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about legal aid or public interest where you feel purposeful and do doc review on the side if those jobs don't pay enough? Maybe something where you interact with more people to help w your depression. You've applied to fed jobs, but what about local government? Is it possible to do doc review part time to supplement?

Doc review jobs are full time for the duration. There isn’t part time doc review. I wish I could afford to do what you suggest but I barely get by as it is. I’ve lived like a pauper the past 17 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I remember you. What have you been doing since the last time you asked for advice on this board? Did you take any of the advice given then?

I don’t think you know me. What advice? I’ve applied for about 3 federal jobs each week for the past two years. Have gotten nothing

Have you asked for advice on this board before? Repeatedly?

do you typically harass people here? If you don’t want to give advice why are you posting here? I’m sorry your life sucks but bullying people on here isn’t going to improve your life . Either give advice or shut up

OP, I am not bullying you. You have asked for “advice” so many times but every time you get good advice you have dozens of reasons why you can’t take it. You sound like you have clinical depression and you need to work through that before you can fix your career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about legal aid or public interest where you feel purposeful and do doc review on the side if those jobs don't pay enough? Maybe something where you interact with more people to help w your depression. You've applied to fed jobs, but what about local government? Is it possible to do doc review part time to supplement?

for local government I only could apply in DC as I’m not licensed in md or va. But unlikely they’d take me as a lawyer anyways so I shall look for non lawyer jobs locally. Have done it before but no success there either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I remember you. What have you been doing since the last time you asked for advice on this board? Did you take any of the advice given then?

I don’t think you know me. What advice? I’ve applied for about 3 federal jobs each week for the past two years. Have gotten nothing

Have you asked for advice on this board before? Repeatedly?

do you typically harass people here? If you don’t want to give advice why are you posting here? I’m sorry your life sucks but bullying people on here isn’t going to improve your life . Either give advice or shut up

OP, I am not bullying you. You have asked for “advice” so many times but every time you get good advice you have dozens of reasons why you can’t take it. You sound like you have clinical depression and you need to work through that before you can fix your career.

provide one example of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about legal aid or public interest where you feel purposeful and do doc review on the side if those jobs don't pay enough? Maybe something where you interact with more people to help w your depression. You've applied to fed jobs, but what about local government? Is it possible to do doc review part time to supplement?

Doc review jobs are full time for the duration. There isn’t part time doc review. I wish I could afford to do what you suggest but I barely get by as it is. I’ve lived like a pauper the past 17 years

Do you work for a doc review entity? Maybe try to do doc review for a law firm instead to get your foot in the door. Is e-discovery the same thing as document review?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about legal aid or public interest where you feel purposeful and do doc review on the side if those jobs don't pay enough? Maybe something where you interact with more people to help w your depression. You've applied to fed jobs, but what about local government? Is it possible to do doc review part time to supplement?

for local government I only could apply in DC as I’m not licensed in md or va. But unlikely they’d take me as a lawyer anyways so I shall look for non lawyer jobs locally. Have done it before but no success there either

to be blunt, I've hired for non-attorney positions (paralegals, clerks) and we wouldn't touch an attorney with this much legal experience. We've been burned by sad sacks with a sense of entitlement and no work ethic and it's not worth it when there are hard workers happy to take the job

[Anonymous]

Look at various jobs at universities, too. Contract coordinator or something to do with contracts or complinace at universities.