Deal ipl

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Anonymous wrote:How has DCPS allow Deal to do this? They are in the building for only 10% of the week and then only learning virtually?

Why didn’t the Chancellor tell schools to open in a uniform manner?

I don't know. There are a ton of Deal kids who are failing and/or flailing with the virtual learning. These are kids who in typical times were good students.
Deal administration clearly doesn't care if the kids learn or not. Individual teachers do. I'm surprised that DCPS doesn't step in although it's probably very low on their priority list and they probably don't even know.

+1. The Principal and AP's are apathetic at best and came up with this awful plan that they're calling IPL.

It is not a great situation but I am a big fan of Principal Neal and I know she is in a highly challenging situation. My child is doing IPL on Mondays and she said it was clearly not as good as normal but it was better than doing DL at home. My child has had ups and downs during DL, and we hav worked through a lot. DD is hoping to be able to go a second day, which surprised me given how it is working.

Also, Deal brought back the kids that were struggling the most in the second advisory. It is a huge school and there are huge logistical issues and I suspect also union issues with the teachers.

I completely agree they need to be back to full in person in the fall. I am optimistic that my child will be vaccinated by then and if they still need masks, so be it. If there are kids that still want distance they should have a separate set of teachers for that and then have classes in person for everyone else. If teachers do not want to teach in person at that point they should get another job.

The union issue are the same across all teachers district wide, Deal teachers are not any different. Neal chose not to ask any of them to come back and hoped they would get themselves vaccinated. Other principals chose to respond to parent request and put together a plan that required many teachers to come back. Neal put together a plan that accommodated teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How has DCPS allow Deal to do this? They are in the building for only 10% of the week and then only learning virtually?

Why didn’t the Chancellor tell schools to open in a uniform manner?

I don't know. There are a ton of Deal kids who are failing and/or flailing with the virtual learning. These are kids who in typical times were good students.
Deal administration clearly doesn't care if the kids learn or not. Individual teachers do. I'm surprised that DCPS doesn't step in although it's probably very low on their priority list and they probably don't even know.

+1. The Principal and AP's are apathetic at best and came up with this awful plan that they're calling IPL.

It is not a great situation but I am a big fan of Principal Neal and I know she is in a highly challenging situation. My child is doing IPL on Mondays and she said it was clearly not as good as normal but it was better than doing DL at home. My child has had ups and downs during DL, and we hav worked through a lot. DD is hoping to be able to go a second day, which surprised me given how it is working.

Also, Deal brought back the kids that were struggling the most in the second advisory. It is a huge school and there are huge logistical issues and I suspect also union issues with the teachers.

I completely agree they need to be back to full in person in the fall. I am optimistic that my child will be vaccinated by then and if they still need masks, so be it. If there are kids that still want distance they should have a separate set of teachers for that and then have classes in person for everyone else. If teachers do not want to teach in person at that point they should get another job.

The union issue are the same across all teachers district wide, Deal teachers are not any different. Neal chose not to ask any of them to come back and hoped they would get themselves vaccinated. Other principals chose to respond to parent request and put together a plan that required many teachers to come back. Neal put together a plan that accommodated teachers.

This is exactly what happened. Neal didn't want to deal with issues from disgruntled teachers so she put together a plan that would make her job easier while screwing over the students and families. She's been vocally supportive of WTU's efforts to keep schools closed and she needs to go.

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I’m not sure it’s for the teachers as much as it is for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure it’s for the teachers as much as it is for her.

13:23 here. Fair enough, it's both. There are lots of great teachers there who want to be in person. But there are also others . . . and Neal is firmly alongside the teachers who support the WTU obstruction antics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure it’s for the teachers as much as it is for her.

13:23 here. Fair enough, it's both. There are lots of great teachers there who want to be in person. But there are also others . . . and Neal is firmly alongside the teachers who support the WTU obstruction antics.

Thank you for that second sentence.

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But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure it’s for the teachers as much as it is for her.

13:23 here. Fair enough, it's both. There are lots of great teachers there who want to be in person. But there are also others . . . and Neal is firmly alongside the teachers who support the WTU obstruction antics.

Thank you for that second sentence.

13:23 here again. Of course. Most of our child's Deal teachers are great teachers. It's Neal, the teachers who support WTU's obstruction of reopening, and our weak Mayor who caved to WTU who we have a problem with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

+1. This plan is deliberately worse than it had it be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

So they would effectively have to track by math level to build classes of kids. That would not go over well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

But the kids individual schedules do not enable that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

So they would effectively have to track by math level to build classes of kids. That would not go over well.

Why do you believe that this would be a problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

So they would effectively have to track by math level to build classes of kids. That would not go over well.

Why do you believe that this would be a problem?

Are you new to these issues? DCPS does not track by ability and this goes back to court rulings from decades ago I believe. You are effectively taking the highest achieving students in the one area they do track and putting them all together for all their classes. I personally do not oppose tracking, I am just pointing it out. The majority of Deal 7th graders, for example take Math 8, some advanced students take Algebra I with the 8th graders and the really advanced students take Geometry (with advanced 8th graders) along with Algebra I. A relatively small number of 7th graders take math 7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

So if the kids are already a group and the teachers have been given priority for vaccines, there's not reason they can't be getting in person instruction with up to 4 or so teachers rotating in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But every middle school is opening under the same model as Deal due to cohorting restrictions (e.g. students cannot switch classes). Only elementary schools have leeway to return students on a more full time basis.

Deal already has a team model. Kids within an English class have the same history and science teachers. They could move as groups to see at least those 3 teachers, but Neal isn’t doing it. Math and language are trickier because of levels.

So if the kids are already a group and the teachers have been given priority for vaccines, there's not reason they can't be getting in person instruction with up to 4 or so teachers rotating in.

They would need to rearrange all the kid's schedules to make this work, there are roughly 100 kids per team, and also separate out the kids with different math instruction. Then PE/Music and language would need to be done online.