Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't read the whole thread, but are they indicating whether cases were in the same classroom? And do we know whether the numbers represent kids only, or kids and staff?

Anyone who reported being in the building. So also, a FedEx delivery guy who's there for 5 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A denominator would help.

Depending on how many kids we’re talking about, these numbers might be extremely low.

+1

[Anonymous]

This information is so context-free as to be absolutely useless.

[Anonymous]

One thing this chart doesn't show is how many cases were associated with each outbreak -- we only know it's at least two within two weeks. I'd react differently to 19 outbreaks at my kids' school of, say, three cases each than to 19 outbreaks of 19 cases each.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Agree, and we'd also like to know where they got infected. Was it outside of school, inside school but outside the classroom during contact with adults, or was it inside the classroom?

With the level of community spread we have, that's pretty much impossible to nail down.

I think they could start with looking at if 2 kids in the same class were ill at the same time. To me, "outbreak" would indicate transmission at school. As in, the virus broke out and spread. If a child attended school and was ill and did NOT transmit it to other students or teachers, I would not call that an outbreak but would call it a success showing that the measures taken in school are working. Very different interpretations depending on the definition.

This. The data isn't showing that there are actual outbreaks, just individual cases of 2 or more people affiliated with being at the school that they're incorrectly calling "outbreaks." And there are only 19 for all schools in DC combined. It's not saying that one kid was sick and got the whole class and teacher sick and several people died. It's very misleading to call it an outbreak.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure what you think this proves, OP? My sister's private school in NYC has had at least 4-5 "outbreaks" by this definition. No in-school transmission, and they are working on bringing back even more classes indoors since it's gone so well.

[Anonymous]

There are 300+ child care centers open in DC right now...that number of "outbreaks" is miniscule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Mayor Bowser and Dr. Nesbitt will release the denominator when they feel that you will be able to understand what that is.

Pretty sure the PP understands what a denominator is. What point are you trying to make besides proving that you are snippy?

The poster isn’t being snippy. That is literally what Dr Nesbit said when asked if they would be providing more information. Watch the recording.

[Anonymous]

Not bad at all.
Open the schools.

[Anonymous]

This is terrible
Keep the schools closed

[Anonymous]

This proves absolutely nothing. Y'all sicken me.

[Anonymous]

1. a denominator would be a lot - if its a low number denominator then this is really bad; if its a high number then hmmmm this means schools could be safe.

2. fed ex guy isn't getting testing as he or she is not tied to DCPS

3. DCPS is intentionally withholding information - they could be shooting themselves in the foot because it could prove we should open schools

4. 600 more people are positive now in DC - this is scary. i really wish people would take this serious (not necessarily DCUMers who want to open school) but people who think handing out at a bar is a good idea; or playing basketball without a mask or people flying "home" to wisconsin to eat turkey. the numbers going to go up this week.

5. since cares classrooms have open we have 1 pos kid and 10 pos adults - is this out of a 1,000 or 100. if this is good or bad news will matter a lot.

6. i was being optimistic about cares rooms but i heard a person say she's had two tutors come to her home since august and now she's sending her kid to a cares room. no testing - not a good idea.

[Anonymous]

According to the CDC, it shouldn't even be w/in 14 days anymore, it should be within 10 or the CDC wouldn't even associate the two events if they were in the same classroom.

2 cases of COVID in a location over 14 days -- especially when you consider that, right now, the people using those locations are likely to be extremely risk tolerant people (or people unable to avoid risks for lifestyle reasons) -- seems like nothing. Given the current rate of COVID in DC, wouldn't you statistically expect 2 cases in 14 days in some of these locations?

[Anonymous]

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Nineteen "outbreaks" in K-12 schools in DC. And that's with DCPS ALL VIRTUAL.

That's just charters and privates. Wow.

This situation STINKS. I want my kids at school. But I also want to support teachers and prevent COVID in DC from getting out of control. Virtual is bad but may be the best of bad options right now.

These are not outbreaks ffs. The link even states that it could be just cases which are unrelated. Many schools are testing regularly and reporting all info. There is no hard data that there is spread in the schools!

[Anonymous]

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Nineteen "outbreaks" in K-12 schools in DC. And that's with DCPS ALL VIRTUAL.

That's just charters and privates. Wow.

This situation STINKS. I want my kids at school. But I also want to support teachers and prevent COVID in DC from getting out of control. Virtual is bad but may be the best of bad options right now.

These are not outbreaks ffs. The link even states that it could be just cases which are unrelated. Many schools are testing regularly and reporting all info. There is no hard data that there is spread in the schools!

And they are reporting people are getting covid. People are getting covid can be mild symptoms to death so....... isn't 10 adults a lot esp if you are living with one of them? 10 adults out of 2,000 isn't a lot but again DCPS isn't giving people full data so I have to assume 10 adults is a lot.