Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

[Anonymous]

The way they are defining outbreak means only some places can meaningfully track "outbreak". Two cases amongst people who visited the same bar or restaurant within two weeks of each other will be extremely difficult to pinpoint. Schools/daycares are much easier.

[Anonymous]

This data only looks at community settings and the numbers on "outbreaks" (again in a 14-day period, 2 or more people were on site at any time or duration had a positive test result, possibly unrelated) in these communities settings reads fairly encouraging to me. If people follow the protocols on masks and distancing, outbreaks are fairly uncommon in a controlled environment like K-12 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Mayor Bowser and Dr. Nesbitt will release the denominator when they feel that you will be able to understand what that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Agree, and we'd also like to know where they got infected. Was it outside of school, inside school but outside the classroom during contact with adults, or was it inside the classroom?

[Anonymous]

There is no incentive for construction companies, bars, restaurants, or salons to report or track these outbreaks.

[Anonymous]

So the definition of "outbreak" is just two cases happening to occur in 14 days. That's not what an "outbreak" is to most people. They aren't even confirming that the transmission was at the school!?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Mayor Bowser and Dr. Nesbitt will release the denominator when they feel that you will be able to understand what that is.

Pretty sure the PP understands what a denominator is. What point are you trying to make besides proving that you are snippy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Agree, and we'd also like to know where they got infected. Was it outside of school, inside school but outside the classroom during contact with adults, or was it inside the classroom?

With the level of community spread we have, that's pretty much impossible to nail down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Mayor Bowser and Dr. Nesbitt will release the denominator when they feel that you will be able to understand what that is.

I went to elementary school. What's your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from a later tweet

Dr. Nesbitt explained today that an "outbreak" is 2 or more cases within a 14 day period. It could be 2 cases, or as many as 30.

It would be great if DC could release more data to get a sense of scale for these outbreaks.

But at least 2 cases in K-12 schools, 19 times.

If there is Covid in the community, there will of course be cases among people inside schools. That doesn't mean that they got infected at school, or that even if they did schools that accelerate the overall spread in a significant way, and it certainly doesn't mean that schools should remain closed, because the negative effects of that are huge and definitive.

This is what European experts are saying and I couldn't agree more.

+1. These numbers actually prove schools should be open. All the cases across DC combined is only 19?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Agree, and we'd also like to know where they got infected. Was it outside of school, inside school but outside the classroom during contact with adults, or was it inside the classroom?

With the level of community spread we have, that's pretty much impossible to nail down.

I think they could start with looking at if 2 kids in the same class were ill at the same time. To me, "outbreak" would indicate transmission at school. As in, the virus broke out and spread. If a child attended school and was ill and did NOT transmit it to other students or teachers, I would not call that an outbreak but would call it a success showing that the measures taken in school are working. Very different interpretations depending on the definition.

[Anonymous]

Haven't read the whole thread, but are they indicating whether cases were in the same classroom? And do we know whether the numbers represent kids only, or kids and staff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a joke. This information is useless.

There are 130,000 children in DC. Tell me how many are getting in-person instruction currently and how many “outbreaks” are associated with that? And tell me what exactly these outbreaks were like. Was anyone actually sick? The vast majority of children have mild or no symptoms.

If you can’t answer the questions, then shut up.

Yeah, knowing the denominator would be pretty useful here. Whether anyone was "actually sick" is not as relevant, IMO, because the concern is partially about who kids will pass it to.

Mayor Bowser and Dr. Nesbitt will release the denominator when they feel that you will be able to understand what that is.

Pretty sure the PP understands what a denominator is. What point are you trying to make besides proving that you are snippy?

That the Mayor and her team continue to slow roll us information. And meanwhile were left squabbling with seeing what's really going on.

[Anonymous]

A denominator would help.

Depending on how many kids we’re talking about, these numbers might be extremely low.